Immigration reform; why?

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    IMMIGRATION REFORM; WHY?

    Why is Obama pushing for immigration reform when he knows the majority, over 75%, of Americans are against any kind of amnesty or path to citizenship for 12 -20 million people who disrespected our immigration laws and entered this country illegally and continue to break laws to work and continue to live here. They are not in the shadows. They are in every place we are. If they will break our immigration laws, they will break others and they do.

    $5,000 and wait in live for citizenship is not a punishment for those who are already ahead of the line by being here and able to work toward the American dream that they have prevented Americans from achieving by taking jobs, lowering wages and lower the standard of living for Americans. They are taking from those waiting legally respecting our laws and those waiting are being punished by having to wait. That in not fair and inhuman.
    There is no way of knowing who has or doesn’t have a criminal background because they use false and numerous identifications. If they do commit a crime, all they have to do is use another ID and social security number.

    Amnesty in 1986 did not work to stop illegal immigration and amnesty again will not stop it either and will only encourage more illegal immigration and another amnesty for another 20 million in another 20 years.

    Our immigration laws are not broken and the fact that 185,000 immigrate to this country legally each year is sufficient proof that it works. What is broken is our immigration laws by not being enforced. What’s the point in having laws if they are not obeyed or enforced?

    If we allow 20 million illegal aliens to remain in the country, we may as well open the border, because they will come and nothing will be able to stop them.

    Amnesty or a path to citizenship is a “welcome” signal. No matter what you call it, it is still amnesty. Put lipstick and a dress on a pig and its still a pig.

    The only reform we need is to reform automatic birthright citizenship for the American born children of illegal aliens and put the E-Verify system in place. American born children of illegal aliens cannot be use as “anchors.”

    Greenspan is as wrong as Obama when he say our economy would collapse without illegal aliens working. They take more from the economy than they contribute to the economy because they are low wage earners and pay very little in taxes is any. No one benefits from cheap illegal labor but corporations like WalMart. 185,000 admitted legally each year is more than we can absorb economically. We are running out of natural resources because of population and especially water and eventually food. And our social services is being drained. If we allow amnesty, the 20 million will be able to bring in their families and the number will be astronomical.

    Amnesty is not keeping America safe when illegal aliens kill more Americans than 9-11 and all the recent wars and more dangerous than terrorists. With illegal immigration, comes every kind of criminal activity mentionable.

    When I voted for Obama, I did not vote for immigration reform.
     
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    I think a lot of people who voted for Obama are getting things they never expected.
     
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    Border Towns track Mexican students

    Friday, May 23, 2008

     

    BORDER SCHOOLS GET TOUGH ON MEXICAN STUDENTS




    What's Wrong with Educating Mexican Children in US Public Schools? (Latina Lista)



    Border schools get tough on Mexican students | csmonitor.com http://www.bloggernews.net/110496In Calexico, Calif., schools crack down on students who live across the border.By Randy Dotinga | Correspondent of The Christian Science Monitor
    and Mary Knox Merrill | staff
    from the May 23, 2008 edition

    CALEXICO AND SAN DIEGO, CALIF. - If you cross the US-Mexican border at the town of Calexico you might run into a photographer named Daniel Santillan. But he's not likely to be shooting pictures of tourists. He only has eyes for Mexican schoolchildren who want an American education.

    Mr. Santillan is a residency enforcer, assigned by local education officials to make sure students live in the US, not Mexico. When he's not tracking students on weekday mornings at the border crossing, he visits local homes to make sure children live where their parents say they do.

    Santillan isn't thrilled about busting youngsters for living south of the border, but he accepts his job. "The bottom line is that these kids are taking up room," he says.

    It's impossible to know how many Mexican students cross the border daily to attend school in the US, sent by parents who think they'll get a better education. Still, border communities have fretted over their presence for more than a decade.

    Some schools are now doing more to enforce residency requirements under pressure from politicians and activists concerned about wasted taxpayer money.

    Calexico's schools, however, have gone further than others by sending Santillan to photograph students at the border and requiring parents to provide proof of residency twice a year.

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    The answer is two fold, and both republicans and democraps are guilty.

    The republicans want the cheap labor, in effect, a modern day class of slaves.

    The dems on the other hand want to give them amnesty expecting that if they push for it and get it, the newly amnestied illegals will vote dem keeping them in power.

    And that's it.
     
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    they won't be citizens even if they were to get amnesty.
     
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    From: Roy Beck, President, NumbersUSA
    Date: Friday 1MAY09 9 a.m. EDT


    Bi-partisan Senate push for amnesty starts -- U.S. jobless workers thrown under the bus -- ACT NOW

    FRIENDS, THE SENATE NEEDS YOUR IMMEDIATE RESPONSE!

    Your Senators need phone calls today before the rancid thinking of yesterday's immigration hearing infects their views on what makes political sense this year.

    Did you think Senators might be too smart this year -- or too moral or at least too embarrassed -- to push for more foreign workers while millions of Americans are losing their jobs?

    Such modest faith in U.S. Senators was dashed yesterday by the Senate Judiciary Committee in a first hearing of its immigration panel.

    Senators made it clear that they are hopeful that the American people will let them pass the amnesty this year that was blocked in 2007.

    And the Senators made it clear that the only thing that will stop the Senate from passing an amnesty for illegal foreign workers this year is if regular citizens like you mount immediate and sustained protests.

    They said they really think Americans have become resigned to an amnesty.

    PHONE NOW: 202-224-3121

    Just make a simple call and tell your two Senators that you are disgusted by the display of utter moral depravity of the Senate Judiciary Committee yesterday in its preference for illegal foreign workers and the outlaw businesses that hire them over the needs of the 13 million U.S. workers who can't find a job.

    Perhaps the saddest part of the hearing yesterday was that the Senators didn't even acknowledge that 13 million unemployed U.S. workers should be part of the consideration of what to do about immigration.

    All but one of the witnesses spoke of immigration without any reference to America's jobless.


    We could have expected as much from the new immigration chairman -- Sen. Chuck Schumer (D-NY). He helped pass the first amnesty in 1986 and has never stopped working against the interests of vulnerable U.S. workers.

    But especically disheartening was the mostly agreement from the ranking Republican on the immigration panel, Sen. Cornyn of Texas. He and Schumer said they are agreed on most aspects of what needs to be done. Cornyn is a constantly frustrating figure. His immigration grade is pretty good because the citizens of Texas pound him before every vote and generally get him to do the right thing. But in between he gives all sorts of comfort to the enemies of American workers and communities.

    What every Senator needs to hear is that it would be politically stupid and morally bankrupt for the Senate to even consider giving permanent work permits to 8 million illegal foreign workers this year while 13 million jobless American workers would like to have their jobs.

    Schumer named his hearing: "Comprehensive Immigration Reform in 2009, Can We Do It and How?"

    It revealed that he has no interest in whether it would be a good idea or what the effects would be. No, the title says that Schumer sees this as just another of his political conquests. Huge special interests want this amnesty and Schumer is going to find out how he can pass it.

    Unfortunately, logic and compassion and knowledge can have no effect on politicians like Schumer on this subject. The only thing that can pull them off their path is a firestorm of political reaction.

    Before the weekend, light some fire.

    In addition to your own U.S. Senators, know that the following Members of the Judiciary Committee especially need to hear from you. They will be deciding whether an amnesty comes to a vote.

    ARIZONA
    Sen. Kyl (R)
    202-224-4521

    CALIFORNIA
    Sen. Feinstein (D)
    202-224-3841

    DELAWARE
    Sen. Kaufman (D)
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    ILLINOIS
    Sen. Durbin (D)
    202-224-2152

    IOWA
    Sen. Gra ssley (R)
    202-224-3744

    MARYLAND
    Sen. Cardin (D)
    202-224-4524

    MINNESOTA
    Sen. Klobuchar (D)
    202-224-3244

    NEW YORK
    Sen. Schumer (D)
    202-224-6542

    OKLAHOMA
    Sen. Coburn (R)
    202-224-5754

    OREGON
    Sen. Wyden (D)
    202-224-5244

    PENNSYLVANIA
    Sen. Specter (D)
    202-224-5653

    RHODE ISLAND
    Sen. Whitehouse (D)
    202-224-2921

    SOUTH CAROLINA
    Sen. Graham (R)
    202-224-5972

    TEXAS
    Sen. Cornyn (R)
    202-224-2934

    UTAH
    Sen. Hatch (R)
    202-224-5251

    VERMONT
    Sen. Leahy (D)
    202-224-4242

    WISCONSIN
    Sen. Feingold (D)
    202-224-5323

    Sen. Kohl (D)
    202-224-5653

    THANKS FOR TAKING ACTION NOW,






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    Isn't that what amnesty is? A pathway to citizenship?
     
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    It certainly is.
     
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    'they won't be citizens even if they were to get amnesty'.

    True.....but.....if you look back at 1986 when millions were legalized, they are NOW naturalized american citizens who no doubt voted democratic this time around.....and the dems are very aware of that. There was a BIG push by the spanish media to make sure that they were naturalized BEFORE the elections of 2008 and they were very successful - by their own admission, they have taken credit for Obama getting elected.B]
     
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    'they won't be citizens even if they were to get amnesty'.

    True.....but.....if you look back at 1986 when millions were legalized, they are NOW naturalized american citizens who no doubt voted democratic this time around.....and the dems are very aware of that. There was a BIG push by the spanish media to make sure that they were naturalized BEFORE the elections of 2008 and they were very successful - by their own admission, they have taken credit for Obama getting elected.B]
     

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