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Either the GOP understands the demographic changes are undermining its continuing status as a power player or the end will happen in the next 12 years as it dies.
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Wait a second, I thought Joe Arapio was wrong to target Hispanics as Illegals?
Are most Illegals Hispanic according to Bill Maher?
Wrong. White liberals have dictated that the only issue important to Hispanics is immigration. Just like they've dictated the only issue important to women is birth control and abortion.Immigration is not the only issue...That's impossible. White liberals have dictated that the only issue Hispanics care about is immigration.
There is jobs, not passing harassing legislation, respect of culture, acceptance of anti-Hispanic bigots and compassion for those less fortunate
Republicans fail at all
Get with the program.
The far right reactionaries do not give a damn about facts, merely their own hateful emotions about the issue.
The far right reactionaries do not give a damn about facts, merely their own hateful emotions about the issue.
The issue is that Hispanics have no incentive to vote for Republicans
Blaming the mainstream media and a lack of free stuff is not a solution
The far right reactionaries do not give a damn about facts, merely their own hateful emotions about the issue.
The issue is that Hispanics have no incentive to vote for Republicans
Blaming the mainstream media and a lack of free stuff is not a solution
We have many GOP leaders and many of the mainstream trying to move in the right direction, and the deadweight reactionary far right is trying to pull the party under.
The wacks would rather suicide the party than give in.
The actual link I need to open this thread is not yet available. Last night on Bill Maher's real time it was pointed out that in 2012 President Obama received 71% of the Hispanic vote.
Maher was discussing that if the 12,000,000 illegal immigrants in the United States took a pathway to citizenship, and could vote, 71% would equal 8,520,000 Democrats and 3,480,000 Republicans. Obama beat Romney by 3,000,000 votes in 2012. This could mean that Democrats could automatically win a national election before a candidate was even nominated!
The question of 12,000,000 new voters was given as a reason why Republicans will defeat Immigration Reform. However, this too is controversial.
This is the closest link I could find to this subject, (but in this case it looks as though any opinion would be as good as any other). It makes sense to me. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/politics/19immig.html?_r=0
You keep saying people have different interests, but refuse to say what they are.I'll ask again:Interesting how conservatives decide that Hispanics are mere pawns of white liberals. Republicans need to realize that conservatives are a major factor in driving away the Hispanic vote. Until they do, they will be an increasingly insignificant party
What are Hispanics' interests? What are blacks' interests? What are whites' interests?
Obviously, to the left, they're all different. This is undeniable. So don't look like a moron by denying it.
Again, Conservatives try to sell the Bullshit....."We treat everyone the same"
America is not one size fits all, Conservatives have only one size and it is white, christian and middle class/rich
EVERYONE has different interests
The old have different interests than the young
The rich have different interests than the poor
Farmers have different interests than city folk
Women have different interests than men
Until Conservatives realize that they must address the values and interests outside of their small, small tent....they will continue to drive people away from the Republican party
Wrong. White liberals have dictated that the only issue important to Hispanics is immigration. Just like they've dictated the only issue important to women is birth control and abortion.Immigration is not the only issue...
There is jobs, not passing harassing legislation, respect of culture, acceptance of anti-Hispanic bigots and compassion for those less fortunate
Republicans fail at all
Get with the program.
I did the OP on this thread because I am concerned about how this issue will effect future elections. In order to intelligently discuss this, we need to find facts that we can all agree upon to facilitate meaningful discussion. I think you will be as surprised as I was on what were the most important issues to Hispanics in the 2012 election. Latino Voters in the 2012 Election | Pew Hispanic Center
Top Issues for Hispanic Voters in 2012
For Hispanic voters, according to the national exit poll, 60% identified the economy as the most important issue (of four listed) facing the country today, virtually the same as the share (59%) of the general electorate that identified the economy as the nations most important issue. On the other three issues asked about, for Hispanic voters, the economy was followed by health care (18%), the federal budget deficit (11%) and foreign policy (6%).
Throughout this election cycle, the issue of immigration has been an important issue for Hispanics. In the national exit poll, voters were asked about what should happen to unauthorized immigrants working in the U.S. According to the national exit poll, 77% of Hispanic voters said these immigrants should be offered a chance to apply for legal status while 18% said these immigrants should be deported. Among all voters, fewer than two-thirds (65%) said these immigrants should be offered a chance to apply for legal status while 28% say they should be deported.
Interesting indeed. Despite what the left claims, Hispanics seem to see issues about the same as everybody else.Wrong. White liberals have dictated that the only issue important to Hispanics is immigration. Just like they've dictated the only issue important to women is birth control and abortion.
Get with the program.
I did the OP on this thread because I am concerned about how this issue will effect future elections. In order to intelligently discuss this, we need to find facts that we can all agree upon to facilitate meaningful discussion. I think you will be as surprised as I was on what were the most important issues to Hispanics in the 2012 election. Latino Voters in the 2012 Election | Pew Hispanic Center
Top Issues for Hispanic Voters in 2012
For Hispanic voters, according to the national exit poll, 60% identified the economy as the most important issue (of four listed) facing the country today, virtually the same as the share (59%) of the general electorate that identified the economy as the nations most important issue. On the other three issues asked about, for Hispanic voters, the economy was followed by health care (18%), the federal budget deficit (11%) and foreign policy (6%).
Throughout this election cycle, the issue of immigration has been an important issue for Hispanics. In the national exit poll, voters were asked about what should happen to unauthorized immigrants working in the U.S. According to the national exit poll, 77% of Hispanic voters said these immigrants should be offered a chance to apply for legal status while 18% said these immigrants should be deported. Among all voters, fewer than two-thirds (65%) said these immigrants should be offered a chance to apply for legal status while 28% say they should be deported.
You keep saying people have different interests, but refuse to say what they are.I'll ask again:
What are Hispanics' interests? What are blacks' interests? What are whites' interests?
Obviously, to the left, they're all different. This is undeniable. So don't look like a moron by denying it.
Again, Conservatives try to sell the Bullshit....."We treat everyone the same"
America is not one size fits all, Conservatives have only one size and it is white, christian and middle class/rich
EVERYONE has different interests
The old have different interests than the young
The rich have different interests than the poor
Farmers have different interests than city folk
Women have different interests than men
Until Conservatives realize that they must address the values and interests outside of their small, small tent....they will continue to drive people away from the Republican party
What's the matter? Haven't gotten those talking points yet?
Again, the left refuses to see people as individuals, as you just proved.
You keep saying people have different interests, but refuse to say what they are.Again, Conservatives try to sell the Bullshit....."We treat everyone the same"
America is not one size fits all, Conservatives have only one size and it is white, christian and middle class/rich
EVERYONE has different interests
The old have different interests than the young
The rich have different interests than the poor
Farmers have different interests than city folk
Women have different interests than men
Until Conservatives realize that they must address the values and interests outside of their small, small tent....they will continue to drive people away from the Republican party
What's the matter? Haven't gotten those talking points yet?
Again, the left refuses to see people as individuals, as you just proved.
Are you really such a simpleton that you can't accept that old people have different interests than young people?
daveman, yes, is that Simple
What about the voter drive that went on in the prisons ? If a person commits a crime and is serving time, then they should have absolutely no rights to vote while in prison serving any sentence given them. Now once they get out then yes they should be able to participate again in such activity.
Most voter drives in prisons are for people who either haven't been convicted of a crime or aren't accused of anything that serious.
Here's the thing though. We have 2 million in prison and 7 million on probation or parole. Most of them being minority and or poor. Obviously, our politics would be very different if they were fully enfranchised, which makes me wonder if that's the point.
If someone is in prison they have been convicted in a court and remanded to state prison. If they have not been convicted of a crime and are being held because they cannot make bail or are ineligible for bail, they are in jail.
loony daveman davying around. Until you are willing to communicate clearly and to the point, you will be treated as the clown you are imitating, Alex Jones.
The actual link I need to open this thread is not yet available. Last night on Bill Maher's real time it was pointed out that in 2012 President Obama received 71% of the Hispanic vote.
Maher was discussing that if the 12,000,000 illegal immigrants in the United States took a pathway to citizenship, and could vote, 71% would equal 8,520,000 Democrats and 3,480,000 Republicans. Obama beat Romney by 3,000,000 votes in 2012. This could mean that Democrats could automatically win a national election before a candidate was even nominated!
The question of 12,000,000 new voters was given as a reason why Republicans will defeat Immigration Reform. However, this too is controversial.
This is the closest link I could find to this subject, (but in this case it looks as though any opinion would be as good as any other). It makes sense to me. http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/19/us/politics/19immig.html?_r=0