Immigration Reform may mean 8,520,000 new Dem voters. Obama won by 3,000,000. votes.

No, son, that is what the reactionaries say: all groups and peoples should be treated as not having different interests.

That is stupid.

Look, you stupid fucking prog:

Conservatives say people should be treated as individuals.

Simple believes individuals and groups don't have different interests.

Simples can be idiots.
You foolish child. I'm telling you that individuals have different interests.

Why do you have to lie?

Oh, yeah -- because you're a lying sack of stupid prog shit who lies.
 
Interesting how conservatives decide that Hispanics are mere pawns of white liberals. Republicans need to realize that conservatives are a major factor in driving away the Hispanic vote. Until they do, they will be an increasingly insignificant party
I'll ask again:

What are Hispanics' interests? What are blacks' interests? What are whites' interests?

Obviously, to the left, they're all different. This is undeniable. So don't look like a moron by denying it.

Again, Conservatives try to sell the Bullshit....."We treat everyone the same"

America is not one size fits all, Conservatives have only one size and it is white, christian and middle class/rich

EVERYONE has different interests
The old have different interests than the young
The rich have different interests than the poor
Farmers have different interests than city folk
Women have different interests than men

Until Conservatives realize that they must address the values and interests outside of their small, small tent....they will continue to drive people away from the Republican party



In Europe, average centre-right conservatives favor universal health care, public education, government benefits for the poor and the unemployed, progressive taxation, public infrastructure investment, separation between church and state... Or at least they are not opposed to those things.

Is it enough to win over ethnic minorities?


According to a survey of 10,000 French voters conducted by the polling firm OpinionWay for the Paris-based newspaper Le Figaro, an extaordinary 93% of French Muslims voted for Hollande on May 6. By contrast, the poll shows that only 7% of French Muslims voted for the incumbent, Nicolas Sarkozy.

(Another myth: "immigrants are natural social conservatives". Well, everybody in France knew that gay marriage was part of Mr. Hollande’s Socialist platform)


In Denmark, Socialist Prime Minister Helle Thorning-Schmidt won the parliamentary election in September 2011 by a margin of just 8,500 votes. According to an opinion survey, 89.1% of Muslims said they would vote for Socialist or other left-wing parties.


Just 4 percent of black voters and 7 percent of asians said they identified with the Conservatives, according to the biggest political survey of ethnic minorities ever conducted in Britain. 55 percent of black voters and 43 percent of asians identify with the Labour Party. Mr Cameron’s Conservatives have already faced strong criticism for failing to connect with women voters.

(Women? Minorities? Cameron’s government has passed gay marriage and has not even tried to limit abortion)


Political scientist Andreas Wüst concluded that 65 percent favor the SPD, 17 percent the Green Party and only 9 percent the Christian Democratic Union (CDU). According to an opinion poll conducted by the pro-SPD Center for Turkish Studies in the Ruhr region city of Essen, 57 percent of Turkish-German voters voted for the SPD, 18 percent for the CDU and 17 percent for the Greens in the 2004 European parliament election.

(even if the SPD was pretty unpopular in 2004)


Etc, etc.
 
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What lefties, daveman. You are wrong is what is your problem: Americans have different interests. Son, that is a fact.
My interests as a white American (whatever the hell the left insists they are) and your interests as a white American may not coincide.

But you and other leftists insist they do.

People are individuals. They each want different things. Not THE WHITE wants this, THE BLACK wants that, THE ASIAN wants the other.

Individuals.

You idiot progs can't comprehend that.

A quick couple of questions........................if you say that different things are allowed, then why don't the white people want to allow gay marriage (even if they've see it work pretty well for the military)?

Another quick question..................if things are "allowed" then why can't women have abortions (especially when they feel that they don't have the money to raise the child properly), and even more so................why can't they have access to birth control so they don't have to get abortions?

Sorry...................but the GOP has finally gone fascist. Only question is, can we prevent this country from being Nazis before the next election?
 
Most of the GOP is not fascist.

Stupid statement.

But a minority is idiot reactionary, and we do deal with those fools every day.

We are determined they will not inflict us with a Santorum-esque freak in 2016 as our candidate.
 
Once they all become citizens, and some of them won't, they won't be beholden to the Democrats. They can vote for anyone they like.

The GOP will just have to try to convince them that their ideas are the best.
 
Once they all become citizens, and some of them won't, they won't be beholden to the Democrats. They can vote for anyone they like.

The GOP will just have to try to convince them that their ideas are the best.

Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
 
What lefties, daveman. You are wrong is what is your problem: Americans have different interests. Son, that is a fact.
My interests as a white American (whatever the hell the left insists they are) and your interests as a white American may not coincide.

But you and other leftists insist they do.

People are individuals. They each want different things. Not THE WHITE wants this, THE BLACK wants that, THE ASIAN wants the other.

Individuals.

You idiot progs can't comprehend that.

A quick couple of questions........................if you say that different things are allowed, then why don't the white people want to allow gay marriage (even if they've see it work pretty well for the military)?
Ummmm...what? Are you saying all white people oppose gay marriage, and that gay marriage is allowed in the military? :eusa_eh:
Another quick question..................if things are "allowed" then why can't women have abortions (especially when they feel that they don't have the money to raise the child properly), and even more so................why can't they have access to birth control so they don't have to get abortions?
Everyone has access to birth control To claim otherwise is asinine.

Of course, like all leftists, you forget there is one 100% effective means of birth control:

Don't have sex.

Simple, huh? If you're not prepared to deal with the consequences of an action, don't perform the action.
Sorry...................but the GOP has finally gone fascist.
Sorry...but you're drunk.
Only question is, can we prevent this country from being Nazis before the next election?
That's what a lot of conservatives are wondering.
 
The idiotic reactionary keeps lumping everyone who disagrees with him as "liberals".

Amazing. One tune band.
 
Once they all become citizens, and some of them won't, they won't be beholden to the Democrats. They can vote for anyone they like.

The GOP will just have to try to convince them that their ideas are the best.

Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
That's gonna be tough. The Dems are old pros at using tax dollars to buy votes. That's pretty much the only purpose of everything they do.
 
The idiotic reactionary keeps lumping everyone who disagrees with him as "liberals".
No, I say everyone who espouses liberal ideas is a liberal.

You take that personally. I wonder why...?
Amazing. One tune band.

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I believe you were saying something stupid and hypocritical, boy?


PREDICTION: Fakey will now search for the number of times I've used the word "liberal". :lol:
 
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Once they all become citizens, and some of them won't, they won't be beholden to the Democrats. They can vote for anyone they like.

The GOP will just have to try to convince them that their ideas are the best.

Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
That's gonna be tough. The Dems are old pros at using tax dollars to buy votes. That's pretty much the only purpose of everything they do.

And we did not buy big business, senior citizens, and the educational industry with GOP tax dollars, daveman?
 
Once they all become citizens, and some of them won't, they won't be beholden to the Democrats. They can vote for anyone they like.

The GOP will just have to try to convince them that their ideas are the best.

Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
That's gonna be tough. The Dems are old pros at using tax dollars to buy votes. That's pretty much the only purpose of everything they do.

Why are Republicans such quitters?

Get Hispanics good paying jobs and they will vote Republican forever

Unfortunately, Republicans only want them to clean house and mow their lawns
 
Not so, RW, but many of our GOP are afraid of something they have nothing to be afraid of.
 
Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
That's gonna be tough. The Dems are old pros at using tax dollars to buy votes. That's pretty much the only purpose of everything they do.

And we did not buy big business, senior citizens, and the educational industry with GOP tax dollars, daveman?

You didn't, because you're not GOP, Prog Boi. Run along now.
 
Not only that, but the GOP has ten years before the first new citizens can vote. You would think they would use that time to execute legislation that would win over the new voters
That's gonna be tough. The Dems are old pros at using tax dollars to buy votes. That's pretty much the only purpose of everything they do.

Why are Republicans such quitters?

Get Hispanics good paying jobs and they will vote Republican forever

Unfortunately, Republicans only want them to clean house and mow their lawns

Looks like Dems hire them, too:

https://docs.google.com/document/edit?id=1iKf3jb-gwnC-Yuez-AgsR3AFSfj8rO2eKyuHLvv7tZI&hl=en

Video: Report: Pelosi hired illegal immigrants for Napa Valley vineyard(?) « Hot Air

Dem Sen. Bob Menendez Employed Illegal Immigrant Registered As A Sex Offender, DHS Told Federal Agents Not To Arrest Him Until After Election Day? | Weasel Zippers

And let's not forget Nannygate -- two of Clinton's USAG nominations hired illegals.

So you can stop pretending only Republicans hire illegals.
 

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