Immigration and Iraq Are Tied Together, It's Ugly

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  1. Annie
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    Screw the GOP

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070626/ap_on_go_co/us_iraq\\\

    It's not lame duck, it's an egomaniac that wants his 'legacy', screw that.
     
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    This War in Iraq is less popular now, than the Vietnam war at it's lowest point, I think:


     
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    Based upon wha†?
     
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    actsnoblemartin I love Andrea & April

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    we do not and should not ever fight a war based on its poll numbers. We fight a war, because we think its the right thing to do, or atleast thats how it should be.

    I have mixed feelings about iraq. I feel we are doing the right thing by being there, and giving the iraqis a chance at freedom, but at some point, I dont want a timetable, and i havent decided when yet, in my own mind, if iraq wont stop killing each other/ our guys, then screw them.

     
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    Polls are a reflection or measure of citizen's consent of the war.

    We can't, and don't fight wars without the consent of the people. That's the way the founders set it up, and intended it.

    As for a war being "right". The reason for going to war should be self-evident to the american people. That's also how the founders specifically intended it. A war shouldn't have to be sold to the public, nor ever-changing reasons given to the public for being in a war.
     
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    I understand what youre saying, and i agree with you up until a point.

    Americans should not be ignored, if they disapprove of a war, but what if they had disapproved of wwII or the civil war?. what then?. and as citizens, dont we have recourse, by hiring and firing politicians via the ballot box. I find your insight insightful, i simply wish to discuss it further.


     
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    the way a poll is worded, can have signifance, take the immigration debate, fence, and wall, can get a different reaction from voters. So you cant put all you eggs in one poll, rather, in an average of different polls.

    Im not saying iraq is popular, only saying, one poll doesnt make a break anything sir :)
     
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    The whole emigration thing is only ugly if you let it become ugly.

    To ME it's black, and white, or brown and white, what ever lights your fire.

    Like everything, its getting down to the basics, there are already laws on the books, enforce THOSE laws across the board, no exceptions.

    Lawyers run this country, plain and simple, this whole mess drops into their laps.

    Turn what is simple into something that is complicated, which is the mantra of the lawyers.

    I can't think of a single problem that was every TRULY solved by a group of lawyers, can you?

    What a strange time we live in......................:eusa_hand:
     

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