Imagine if capitalism was left unfettered and free of government intervention or regulation

[BluesLegend]

if we had no regulations the US would likely be more polluted than China & there would likely be no clean water to drink & only badly polluted air to breath.

Who the Hell needs clean water & clean air? Ask a Republican; they hate regulations.

First I'll laugh in your face then point out its large Democrat run cities that foul the water and air. Many Dem cities routinely spill raw untreated sewage into public waterways, so fouling the water and beaches with their filth that swimming must be banned. Now talk shit about Republicans you retarded moron.

 

[BluesLegend]

Liberals start a thread advocating tax increases, disguised as a thread about Capitalism, got it.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

It's no more pointless than your ridiculous question. The government will NEVER take its hand out of the cookie jar.

And you will never stop relying on the government as much as you choose to deny it.

For what? Lol

Law enforcement, public roads, social security, national security, FDA and EPA regulations....

I don't rely on them so much as I PAY FOR THEM.

Try again

Yep, now shut up and stop whining about this cookie jar non sense, you mooch.

Whining? This is YOUR crybaby bullshit thread not mine. I'm here to point and laugh, nothing more.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

People are dumb. Reason Amazon can pay workers less is because those workers readily accept those jobs knowing the remainders will be made up by food stamps and other gov't subsidies. Make it more difficult to get these subsidies and Amazon will be forced to pay more.

It used to be wages went up when unemployment was low. That's not happening. I don't have as much confidence in your theory as I used to...

Bob Smith makes $10 an hour...he pays zero taxes, qualifies for food stamps to feed his fam and has a part time gig where he does contractor type work and makes an additional $200/week. He drives a Lexus and lives in a rent control apartment. If he makes $15/hour he loses the flex of food stamps and rent control and he may have to pay taxes so it actually mean he makes less in the end when he makes $15/hour.

Interesting theory, you have any support for it? With wages so stagnant I think the higher paying jobs just don't exist. Now that may be caused by employers knowing it's too easy to get government support, but I'm really not sure why wages are so stagnant.

They aren't stagnant in all fields. It is supply/demand. If you are a banker and Bank of America is paying you $150k/year, you may or may not get 2-3% raises annually. If you want a true adjustment you need a promotion OR you move to Chase and they pay you $175k. Human Resources due to economic stagnation has not had to give major adjustments but now with baby boomers close to retirement and the demand almost outpacing the supply the wage growth begins with corporations. But even for the wealthy white collar persons. If under BHO I made $245k all in and was in the 35% tax bracket, me getting $255k all in causes to go into a higher tax bracket and I lose some deductions so I am actually worse off. That has been true for a long time.

So the same applies to hourly workers. So long as they make under a certain threshold, they are better off as they qualify for EIC, food stamps, rent control, more flexibility to do under the table jobs, etc. You start increasing the wage and that goes away for them.

That has all been true for a long time, but in the past wages have still increased when we've had lower unemployment.

Not since the early 90s really. Baby Boomers and tech did not mesh in terms of job openings.

 

[Billy000]

if we had no regulations the US would likely be more polluted than China & there would likely be no clean water to drink & only badly polluted air to breath.

Who the Hell needs clean water & clean air? Ask a Republican; they hate regulations.

First I'll laugh in your face then point out its large Democrat run cities that foul the water and air. Many Dem cities routinely spill raw untreated sewage into public waterways, so fouling the water and beaches with their filth that swimming must be banned. Now talk shit about Republicans you retarded moron.

It’s adorable when you try so hard to be condescending.

 

[BluesLegend]

if we had no regulations the US would likely be more polluted than China & there would likely be no clean water to drink & only badly polluted air to breath.

Who the Hell needs clean water & clean air? Ask a Republican; they hate regulations.

First I'll laugh in your face then point out its large Democrat run cities that foul the water and air. Many Dem cities routinely spill raw untreated sewage into public waterways, so fouling the water and beaches with their filth that swimming must be banned. Now talk shit about Republicans you retarded moron.

It’s adorable when you try so hard to be condescending.

Your post, and brain lack substance.

 

[Billy000]

if we had no regulations the US would likely be more polluted than China & there would likely be no clean water to drink & only badly polluted air to breath.

Who the Hell needs clean water & clean air? Ask a Republican; they hate regulations.

First I'll laugh in your face then point out its large Democrat run cities that foul the water and air. Many Dem cities routinely spill raw untreated sewage into public waterways, so fouling the water and beaches with their filth that swimming must be banned. Now talk shit about Republicans you retarded moron.

It’s adorable when you try so hard to be condescending.

Your post, and brain lack substance.

lol you and I both know my post has substance.

 

[BluesLegend]

if we had no regulations the US would likely be more polluted than China & there would likely be no clean water to drink & only badly polluted air to breath.

Who the Hell needs clean water & clean air? Ask a Republican; they hate regulations.

First I'll laugh in your face then point out its large Democrat run cities that foul the water and air. Many Dem cities routinely spill raw untreated sewage into public waterways, so fouling the water and beaches with their filth that swimming must be banned. Now talk shit about Republicans you retarded moron.

It’s adorable when you try so hard to be condescending.

Your post, and brain lack substance.

lol you and I both know my post has substance.

Lib please Franco's posts have more substance.

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

1) What would stop the income disparity from widening? After all, corporate profits are already at an all time high and the board of a corporation has a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit which includes minimizing labor cost as much as possible. Small business owners have the same mentality. It’s every man for himself in a republican world right? Even at this juncture, the 3 wealthiest people in this country own more wealth than the bottom 50% of workers. What’s to stop that from getting worse?

2) How would wages keep up with ever rising inflation?

3) How would average joe afford healthcare if prescription drug and medical costs only rose and Medicare/Medicaid would have to pay the bill? What if that wasn’t enough? What if one’s insurance doesn’t include life saving cancer treatment that is too expensive out of pocket? That person has a high deductible because the insurance company he is vulnerable to wants to maximize profit.

4) What’s to stop corporations to put whatever carcinogenics they want into their products? It’s not like average joe consumer would need to be aware of this. He would get cancer and no one would know why. Corporations could say whatever the fuck they want in their advertising. All that would matter is that the carcinogenic product increased profits. Think of chemicals sprayed on your produce to make them taste better and have more natural-looking color.

5) What if there was no minimum wage? You may think a corporation wouldn’t pay below that because it makes their position seem less attractive to the worker, but if every corporation individually and independently had the power to set their own wages, what’s to stop them from dropping to $5 per hour? $5 per hour could become the new standard. Why wouldn’t this happen?

6) Oh and let’s think of labor laws. Maybe the new standard would be that a full time job would never guarantee benefits? How about if corporations made it so you legally couldn’t have days off? The fat cats at the top could take whatever vacation time they wanted, but average joe working the cash register brings in more capital by working every day at a shitty wage.

7) What’s to stop automation from replacing more and more jobs thus making human required jobs extremely competitive?

We do need some regulation. Don't pollute the environment, don't kill your workers, don't poison or kill the customer. That is all instead we have 10's of thousands of redundant garbage that kills successes in this country. Funny how the Government expects companies to function under these regulations when it can't even follow the laws that regulate the Fed.

 

[Norman]

I can't even imagine. Without parasitical free loaders like Billy, I would probably be populating Mars right now, in a world where ills such as cancer, or worse, feminism was history.

 

[Two Thumbs]

I wonder if the automobile, the telephone, television etc...etc...would of been invented yet if the world didn't go to capitalism?



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That’s a pointless argument because what I am suggesting has nothing to do with ending capitalism. God you people are dumb.

You post a thread hating on capitalism,and I post a factual wonder question to say you are posting stupid..


Now tell us all the great inventions that came out of socialism / communism ??????

Mass executions.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

I wonder if the automobile, the telephone, television etc...etc...would of been invented yet if the world didn't go to capitalism?



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That’s a pointless argument because what I am suggesting has nothing to do with ending capitalism. God you people are dumb.

You post a thread hating on capitalism,and I post a factual wonder question to say you are posting stupid..


Now tell us all the great inventions that came out of socialism / communism ??????

Mass executions.

Lower BMI.

 

[Norman]

I wonder if the automobile, the telephone, television etc...etc...would of been invented yet if the world didn't go to capitalism?



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That’s a pointless argument because what I am suggesting has nothing to do with ending capitalism. God you people are dumb.

You post a thread hating on capitalism,and I post a factual wonder question to say you are posting stupid..


Now tell us all the great inventions that came out of socialism / communism ??????

Mass executions.

Lower BMI.

Less annoying family pets.