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is there such a thing as a moderate blood thirsty killer?
I was wondering the same thing, more in terms of is there a such thing as a moderate extremist?
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is there such a thing as a moderate blood thirsty killer?
All we need to do is leave, and these muslims will be killing each other in no time.
so what harm is there in exploring every avenue out of this war on terror?
I totally understand and I know some will say "look at his earlier threads" etc.
Obama mulls reaching out to moderate Taliban - NYT | Reuters
You dont mull SHIT ... what the fuck! The commander and chief have pow wows with terrioist?
If there was doubt during the campaign on this exact topic (if you read between the lines) why would you even touch it?
I am sorry to the ones I will offend, but he is in over his head and looking for a way out!
All we need to do is leave, and these muslims will be killing each other in no time.
i am waiting for Rayboy to come on and back the prez....
so what harm is there in exploring every avenue out of this war on terror?
No, Al Qaeda did NOT help do anything against the RussiansThe Taliban, which is an Afghani organization supported Al Qada because Alqada worked with them to oust the Russians.
As AlQada was a guest of the Taliban, they could not just hand them over to the Americans. Those of you who know something about that culture will understand why they could not.
So, quite rightly, the USA came in a crushed the Taliban.
And now we're there supporting not a government, but a city government which has virtually NO real authority outside of the capital.
IF we set the Taliban on the task of tracking down Alqada, they could do easily compared to us expecting our troops to do it.
So in my opinion, talking to these guys make real politik sense.
Do I like what they stand for?
No.
But hey, I don't especially like what the Saudi regime stand for, either, but they are our allies.
We have just got to learn that not everybody wants to be just like us.
This is international politics, not a Junior High school dance, for god's sakes.
The Taliban, which is an Afghani organization supported Al Qada because Alqada worked with them to oust the Russians.
As AlQada was a guest of the Taliban, they could not just hand them over to the Americans. Those of you who know something about that culture will understand why they could not.
So, quite rightly, the USA came in a crushed the Taliban.
And now we're there supporting not a government, but a city government which has virtually NO real authority outside of the capital.
IF we set the Taliban on the task of tracking down Alqada, they could do easily compared to us expecting our troops to do it.
So in my opinion, talking to these guys make real politik sense.
Do I like what they stand for?
No.
But hey, I don't especially like what the Saudi regime stand for, either, but they are our allies.
We have just got to learn that not everybody wants to be just like us.
This is international politics, not a Junior High school dance, for god's sakes.
I totally understand and I know some will say "look at his earlier threads" etc.
Obama mulls reaching out to moderate Taliban - NYT | Reuters
You dont mull SHIT ... what the fuck! The commander and chief have pow wows with terrioist?
If there was doubt during the campaign on this exact topic (if you read between the lines) why would you even touch it?
I am sorry to the ones I will offend, but he is in over his head and looking for a way out!
Come on ... its not about but 1 thing but Terriost and we DO NOT negotiate ... I guess we now do or will soon.
Come on ... its not about but 1 thing but Terriost and we DO NOT negotiate ... I guess we now do or will soon.
Petraeus sees value in talking to Taliban | International | Reuters
Read it and weep.
not exactly the same thing"If there are people who are willing to reconcile (with the government), then that would be a positive step in some of these areas that have actually been spiraling downward," said Petraeus, who will soon take up responsibility for U.S. operations in Afghanistan.
and NO WE DID NOT CREATE THE TALIBANI totally understand and I know some will say "look at his earlier threads" etc.
Obama mulls reaching out to moderate Taliban - NYT | Reuters
You dont mull SHIT ... what the fuck! The commander and chief have pow wows with terrioist?
If there was doubt during the campaign on this exact topic (if you read between the lines) why would you even touch it?
I am sorry to the ones I will offend, but he is in over his head and looking for a way out!
You're an idiot. You forget who created the Taliban in the FIRST place. WE DID. It's okay to create a guerilla warfare group in the name of saving some godforsaken desert piece of shit country with rules and laws centuries old all in the name of defeating communism, but when that same group turns against us, it's wrong? BLAME REAGAN YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE. HE CREATED THEM. WE gave Saddam his wmd's to fight Iran and then went to war with the same guy 20 years later.
Why do you think less boys and girls over in Iraq are coming home in body bags? Because we sat there, according to General David fucking Petreus and we TALKED to the very thugs who had American blood on their hands and we made deals with them.
The world isn't so black and white you conservative fuckers. We're not the good guys. Our policies in supporting the Shah of Iran caused Iran overthrow him and install an Islamic regieme. Our polices created Saddam. Our policies created the Taliban. Our policies caused 9/11. And the minute you fuckers realize that Mr. good old fashioned Reagan's policies who stole from the poor to give to the rich is the cause of today's financial and global problems, the sooner you'll realize that sitting down and talking to these murderous bastards is the RIGHT thing to do.
Unless we get a force of two million men strong and go to full-scale ground war with Pakistan, we will NEVER defeat the Tailban or Al Queda. This new policy allows us to separate the moderates from the whackos and allows them power-sharing in Afghanistan... kind of like what we did in the West Bank with Abbas.
is there such a thing as a moderate blood thirsty killer?
I was wondering the same thing, more in terms of is there a such thing as a moderate extremist?
naive fools will get a lot of people killed