Illinois obamacare premiums going up 40%, remember when we were told the cost would go down?

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Our healthcare system had an 80% approval rate......but the system was not under democrat control, so they had to do something to destroy it...and they passed obamacare, lying the entire time.....

--you can keep your current healthcare plan if you want it...lie

--you can keep your doctor if you like them...lie

--the average family will save 2,500 dollars a year...lie....


People were upset that their premiums might, might have gone up 3% when we had our real healthcare system......now, with obamacare premiums going up 40-50% in some places......the media isn't covering it..while back when we had healthcare that the majority of AMericans were happy with...we had story after story about the broken system.....

There are easy fixes to this problem....but since they don't involve democrats controlling healthcare....they are never going to exist....

So...when the democrats complete the takeover.......and you are sitting there at 55 after finding a lump in your body...and the government healthcare agent tells you...."Sure, we can get you an appointment with a health care scheduler in 3 months...then they can set you up with an appointment for a doctor after that, the wait will be about 4-6 months....." When that happens to you...when your loved one gets that news.....then in your head I want you to hear the sound of laughter....that will be me, and the other conservatives who warned you over and over that this was going to happen....and you will deserve it if you voted for the democrats and hilary...

Here is another case of a woman who can't afford the increase in healthcare under obama....

Obamacare premiums cause sticker shock for those not receiving subsidies - Hot Air

NN Money published a story Saturday highlighting the plight of 63-year-old Shela Bryan. Bryan lives in Georgia and, until recently, was covered under her husband’s insurance. When he died in 2013, she continued his coverage under COBRA, paying $800 a month for an excellent insurance plan with a low $500 deductible. Now that her COBRA benefits are about to run out she’s been surveying her options under Obamacare:

“They cost a thousand, $1,200 [a month], and they have a deductible of $6,000,” she said. “I don’t know how they think anyone can afford that.”…

She could end up paying as much as $14,000 in premiums for a pared-back policy the likes of which she had never imagined, she said, with no coverage for her asthma and high blood pressure medications. The cheapest policies amount to more than a quarter of her yearly income, or double her mortgage, she noted.

That total package would increase her premiums $4,400 over what she is paying for her COBRA plan and raise her deductibles by $5,800. And that was based on 2016 premium prices.

Because she makes slightly more than the limit for receiving subsidies, Bryan has no choice but to pay the full cost of her plan. And as noted above, those were the 2016 prices. In Georgia, Blue Cross Blue Shield is raising prices 21% in 2017 and Humana is raising prices 67.5%. So the prices she is looking at now will seem like a bargain by the time open enrollment starts next month.
 
Ten to twenty percent was getting normal prior to Obamacare. You didn't have companies pulling out of giving coverage to normal folks like you do now though.
 
Haven't seen icebergslim in while. Isn't he a big aca apologist. The guys probably hiring a lawyer trying to get out of his boy's obamacare
 
"Obamacare" was a plan hatched at the Heritage Foundation. Of course it's fucked up in terms of falling short of what's best for the unsubstantial people. Other nations have dealt with this problem successfully, but some americans have an "ism" issue with the solutions that have proven effective and provided the advance/industrialized world much better healthcare systems for their citizens that you have here.
 
Why do we even need ObamaCare? The government should just tell us what healthcare we need. They know best
 
They did next to nothing to reign in costs. They were going to 'bend the cost curve'. Well they bent it alright but in the wrong damn direction for many people.

He gave us some bullshit about increased efficiency wrt to paperwork saving a ton of money, which looked as dumb then as it does now.

Basically they mandated coverage for a shitload more people. Great, people need insurance, and the former system was far from perfect, but the government needs to use it's influence and buying power to negotiate drug prices and other costs of care instead of sucking up lobby money.

Money in DC fucks up everything. Ever-Y-thing.
 
They did next to nothing to reign in costs. They were going to 'bend the cost curve'. Well they bent it alright but in the wrong damn direction for many people.

He gave us some bullshit about increased efficiency wrt to paperwork saving a ton of money, which looked as dumb then as it does now.

Basically they mandated coverage for a shitload more people. Great, people need insurance, and the former system was far from perfect, but the government needs to use it's influence and buying power to negotiate drug prices and other costs of care instead of sucking up lobby money.

Money in DC fucks up everything. Ever-Y-thing.

Nothing will change as long a the health"care" industry is a for profit enterprise.
 
They did next to nothing to reign in costs. They were going to 'bend the cost curve'. Well they bent it alright but in the wrong damn direction for many people.

He gave us some bullshit about increased efficiency wrt to paperwork saving a ton of money, which looked as dumb then as it does now.

Basically they mandated coverage for a shitload more people. Great, people need insurance, and the former system was far from perfect, but the government needs to use it's influence and buying power to negotiate drug prices and other costs of care instead of sucking up lobby money.

Money in DC fucks up everything. Ever-Y-thing.

Nothing will change as long a the health"care" industry is a for profit enterprise.


Yes....just as the for profit computer industry and phone industry and the car industry have wrecked those items...right.......

nothing the government takes control of works better under that control.....

You twits think that a government that can't handle health care for a few million deserving veterans...where they are dying because they can't get in to see doctors....will do much, much better if we only let them control the entire healthcare system for 320 million people..

Now if that isn't fucked in the head thinking...I don't know what is.....
 
They did next to nothing to reign in costs. They were going to 'bend the cost curve'. Well they bent it alright but in the wrong damn direction for many people.

He gave us some bullshit about increased efficiency wrt to paperwork saving a ton of money, which looked as dumb then as it does now.

Basically they mandated coverage for a shitload more people. Great, people need insurance, and the former system was far from perfect, but the government needs to use it's influence and buying power to negotiate drug prices and other costs of care instead of sucking up lobby money.

Money in DC fucks up everything. Ever-Y-thing.

Nothing will change as long a the health"care" industry is a for profit enterprise.


I agree to an extent. For profit drives people to be doctors, it drives research etc., so there's a place for profit in healthcare.

My problem is when the politicians are so bought that we have an industry that is so protected from an actual free market that what we're getting is an utter fleecing well beyond what the free market would allow for.

When we're paying jacked up prices for drugs here that are selling for a fraction of the price in other countries, for instance, because laws protect these people, that's just flat out insane. The people supposedly representing us are passing laws that are directly screwing us to the tune of billions, if not trillions, of dollars.
 
They did next to nothing to reign in costs. They were going to 'bend the cost curve'. Well they bent it alright but in the wrong damn direction for many people.

He gave us some bullshit about increased efficiency wrt to paperwork saving a ton of money, which looked as dumb then as it does now.

Basically they mandated coverage for a shitload more people. Great, people need insurance, and the former system was far from perfect, but the government needs to use it's influence and buying power to negotiate drug prices and other costs of care instead of sucking up lobby money.

Money in DC fucks up everything. Ever-Y-thing.

Nothing will change as long a the health"care" industry is a for profit enterprise.


I agree to an extent. For profit drives people to be doctors, it drives research etc., so there's a place for profit in healthcare.

My problem is when the politicians are so bought that we have an industry that is so protected from an actual free market that what we're getting is an utter fleecing well beyond what the free market would allow for.

When we're paying jacked up prices for drugs here that are selling for a fraction of the price in other countries, for instance, because laws protect these people, that's just flat out insane. The people supposedly representing us are passing laws that are directly screwing us to the tune of billions, if not trillions, of dollars.

Well that's the thing, america has never been about actual free markets.
 

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