"illegal immigrants doing jobs Americans don't want to do"...Myth or reality?

[healthmyths]

I was listening to another advocate of amnesty make the common statement that illegals are doing jobs Americans don't want to do and here are the "FACTS" regarding that statement.

This analysis tests the often-made argument that immigrants do only jobs Americans don't want. If the argument is correct, there should be occupations comprised entirely or almost entirely of immigrants (legal and illegal).
But Census Bureau data collected from 2009 to 2011, which allows for detailed analysis of all 472 separate occupations, shows that there were only a handful of majority-immigrant occupations. Thus, there really are no jobs that Americans won't do. Further, we estimated the share of occupations that are comprised of illegal immigrants, and found that there are no occupations in which the majority of workers are illegally in the country.
Among the findings:

• Of the 472 civilian occupations, only six are majority immigrant (legal and illegal). These six occupations account for 1 percent of the total U.S. workforce. Moreover, native-born Americans still comprise 46 percent of workers even in these occupations.
• Many jobs often thought to be overwhelmingly immigrant (legal and illegal) are in fact majority native-born:

• Maids and housekeepers: 51 percent native-born
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 58 percent native-born
• Butchers and meat processors: 63 percent native-born
• Grounds maintenance workers: 64 percent native-born
• Construction laborers: 66 percent native-born
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 72 percent native-born
• Janitors: 73 percent native-born

Are There Really Jobs Americans Won t Do Center for Immigration Studies

I'm just showing the FACTS behind that "myth"...

Funny that many illegals work in the high paying construction industry. They take carpenter, electrician, plumber, handy-man, pipe fitter, etc high paying blue collar jobs. They work in assembly and manufacturing plants, which are places American can and will do.


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HOW many "illegals"???? Quotes without validation are just guesses!
Give me facts please because "guesses" are what myths are made from.

 

[JakeStarkey]

hm: blah blah blah

You have to pay Americans a decent wage.

They generally will not work outside without one.

Tough.

 

[JakeStarkey]

"HOW many "illegals"???? Quotes without validation are just guesses!
Give me facts please because "guesses" are what myths are made from." I tore the guts out of the myth of numbers you presented.

 

[Manonthestreet]

Myth....when a joint gets busted for using illegals they dont go out of business...they somehow magically find Americans who will work.......amazing isnt it

 

[JakeStarkey]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Like always you miss the point. The so called jobs Americans won't work are primarily worked by Americans. Employers would fill them all with illegals if they could because they can exploit illegals with immunity. I reality all these jobs can be filled by Americans. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Like always you fail because of your lack of common sense. Pay Americans fair wages, and they will work those jobs.

 

[bripat9643]

This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. The problem is not in Americans, who refuse to work, but in a fact that a lot of employers choose the immigrants because they are easier to exploit.

Yep and it should be a crime that carries massive punishment. Even jail time, for hiring these freeloaders.

I don't think jail time is warranted. Stiff fines are enough to discourage the behavior if they are enforced. That's the problem, though: the government has no interest in enforcing the laws on the books.

 

[OKTexas]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

 

[JakeStarkey]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

 

[OKTexas]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

Really, are Americans being paid more now? They fill the majority of the jobs you mentioned.

 

[EatMorChikin]

This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. The problem is not in Americans, who refuse to work, but in a fact that a lot of employers choose the immigrants because they are easier to exploit.

Yep and it should be a crime that carries massive punishment. Even jail time, for hiring these freeloaders.

I don't think jail time is warranted. Stiff fines are enough to discourage the behavior if they are enforced. That's the problem, though: the government has no interest in enforcing the laws on the books.

Federal crimes normally carry prison time. They probably still get off cheaper paying fines. You would have to put a high cost per head, in order to make any real difference.

People need to start being jailed for this shit, enough is enough.

 

[ScienceRocks]

We need start doing things that favor Americans...Fuck this.

 

[ScienceRocks]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

The rich should pay and this is the way to rebuild our middle class.

 

[bripat9643]

This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. The problem is not in Americans, who refuse to work, but in a fact that a lot of employers choose the immigrants because they are easier to exploit.

Yep and it should be a crime that carries massive punishment. Even jail time, for hiring these freeloaders.

I don't think jail time is warranted. Stiff fines are enough to discourage the behavior if they are enforced. That's the problem, though: the government has no interest in enforcing the laws on the books.

Federal crimes normally carry prison time. They probably still get off cheaper paying fines. You would have to put a high cost per head, in order to make any real difference.

People need to start being jailed for this shit, enough is enough.

It's not a felony. It's a civil violation. I think the current fine is $5000 per violation. penalties go up with repeated violations. No matter how high the penalty is set, it will have no effect if it isn't enforced. That's the bottom line. Until we get a president willing to enforce the law, all the laws in the world are totally useless.

 

[bripat9643]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

The rich should pay and this is the way to rebuild our middle class.

You think looting the wealthy is the way to rebuild the middle class? When has a nation ever taxed its way to prosperity? Ending mass immigration from third world countries is the way to improve wages for the middle class and the working poor. There simply isn't any question about that.

 

[ScienceRocks]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

The rich should pay and this is the way to rebuild our middle class.

You think looting the wealthy is the way to rebuild the middle class? When has a nation ever taxed its way to prosperity? Ending mass immigration from third world countries is the way to improve wages for the middle class and the working poor. There simply isn't any question about that.

They have committed treason against this country with offshoring and bringing in the low wage workers. They care more about the dollar then their own country...Yet, you think we should be happy with it?

 

[JakeStarkey]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

Really, are Americans being paid more now? They fill the majority of the jobs you mentioned.

Thanks for the proof that you do not understand the concept of supply and demand.

 

[bripat9643]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

The rich should pay and this is the way to rebuild our middle class.

You think looting the wealthy is the way to rebuild the middle class? When has a nation ever taxed its way to prosperity? Ending mass immigration from third world countries is the way to improve wages for the middle class and the working poor. There simply isn't any question about that.

They have committed treason against this country with offshoring and bringing in the low wage workers. They care more about the dollar then their own country...Yet, you think we should be happy with it?

Oh puhleeze. Don't be absurd. If anyone has committed treason it's Obama and all the mayors who made their cities into "sanctuaries."

 

[bripat9643]

This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. The problem is not in Americans, who refuse to work, but in a fact that a lot of employers choose the immigrants because they are easier to exploit.

Yep and it should be a crime that carries massive punishment. Even jail time, for hiring these freeloaders.

I don't think jail time is warranted. Stiff fines are enough to discourage the behavior if they are enforced. That's the problem, though: the government has no interest in enforcing the laws on the books.

Federal crimes normally carry prison time. They probably still get off cheaper paying fines. You would have to put a high cost per head, in order to make any real difference.

People need to start being jailed for this shit, enough is enough.

The only people that need to be jailed are the illegal aliens, and then sent back to where they came from. These are not criminal statutes we're discussing here. They are labor regulations. Violating regulations doesn't normally involve jail time.

 

[OKTexas]

If we have 40 million foreign-born in our country, they make up about 13% of our population, so they make up per capita

• Maids and housekeepers: 49 percent foreign born, 4 times their number
• Taxi drivers and chauffeurs: 42 percent foreign born, 3.5 times their number
• Butchers and meat processors: 37 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Grounds maintenance workers: 36 percent foreign born, 3 times their number
• Construction laborers: 34 percent foreign born, almost 3 times their number
• Porters, bellhops, and concierges: 28 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number
• Janitors: 27 percent foreign born, about 2.5 their number

Sigh.

Proving that if illegals weren't filling those jobs, Americans would. Sigh

At much higher wages, yes.

Really, are Americans being paid more now? They fill the majority of the jobs you mentioned.

Thanks for the proof that you do not understand the concept of supply and demand.

LMAO, 90 million unemployed at the moment presents a glut of supply, while demand remains virtually stagnant. So tell me again who doesn't understand?

 

[OKTexas]

This argument, in the form stated, is incorrect, or at any rate, misleading. The problem is not in Americans, who refuse to work, but in a fact that a lot of employers choose the immigrants because they are easier to exploit.

Yep and it should be a crime that carries massive punishment. Even jail time, for hiring these freeloaders.

I don't think jail time is warranted. Stiff fines are enough to discourage the behavior if they are enforced. That's the problem, though: the government has no interest in enforcing the laws on the books.

Federal crimes normally carry prison time. They probably still get off cheaper paying fines. You would have to put a high cost per head, in order to make any real difference.

People need to start being jailed for this shit, enough is enough.

The only people that need to be jailed are the illegal aliens, and then sent back to where they came from. These are not criminal statutes we're discussing here. They are labor regulations. Violating regulations doesn't normally involve jail time.

There are also criminal statutes for aiding and abetting illegals to remain, providing employment would qualify.