If this is true, we are in trouble...

[sparky]

It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.

Globalism was spawned by pure greed Correll

They knew we could never compete

~S~

 

[Tehon]

Trump is exacerbating the problem.

Trump is attacking the core causes of the problem, Trade and Immigration.

The root of the problem is that capitalists control our social relationships. He represents the capitalists. he isn't doing a damn thing to help the people who voted for him. Any help they get will be by coincidence.

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

 

[sparky]

And yet Trump is bad for wanting to reduce the trade deficit

ah....no.....

wtf do you get this?

Trump trillion-dollar-plus deficits are putting America on a path to fiscal ruin

 

[USNavyVet]

Actually more people move up than move down compared to their parents in America. Possibly due to increased ease of information but no, few grow poorer and if they do it's due to their choices.

Quintle mobility.......google it.....

Figures you have nothing.

Socioeconomic mobility in the United States - Wikipedia

Really? Wikipedia?

Multiple sources exist
~S~

Yet you chose Wikipiedia.

Anyway, it's easy to move up in America. Just have to love how socialists cry about the bottom quintiles not moving to the top quintile in a generation. LOL.

 

[Correll]

Trump is exacerbating the problem.

Trump is attacking the core causes of the problem, Trade and Immigration.

The root of the problem is that capitalists control our social relationships. He represents the capitalists. he isn't doing a damn thing to help the people who voted for him. Any help they get will be by coincidence.

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

Point 4, the divergence between productivity growth and wage growth. That's back when immigration and trade policies were greatly changed, allowing massive importation of cheap labor, and more even competition between us workers and vastly cheaper foreign labor.


That's reality. And if you are ignorant of that, you need to go do some reading.

 

[eagle1462010]

We don't have true Capitalism anymore......we have Croney Capitalism.....Where the Gov't picks and chooses the winners and get to join the millionaires club for doing so........The Founding Fathers warned us that it would destroy us and they were correct......

Marx was never correct........and Marx is a blueprint for disaster well beyond Capitalism.

 

[Correll]

And yet Trump is bad for wanting to reduce the trade deficit

ah....no.....

wtf do you get this?

Trump trillion-dollar-plus deficits are putting America on a path to fiscal ruin

From his trade policies....

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[Marion Morrison]

That would be the superficial MM, a grand place to start

Now if you want to delve into detail, stick around.

~S~

No, it would not be "the superficial". It would be facts. Apparently you have none, so your claim is negated. If I don't get banned, I'll be sticking around a lot longer than you, midterm shillboi.

 

[Lysistrata]

These statistics are claimed to be true:
1. 50% of American wage earners earn less than $30k.
2. 63% of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency.
3. 80% of American workers live pay check to pay check.
4. Since 1973 American productivity has increased by 77%, yet hourly pay has grown by 12%. If the minimum wage was tracked to productivity, it would be over $20 an hour today.
5. 41% of American workers earn less than $12 per hour, with most without employer provided HC.
6. Since 2008 the federal government and the Fed created $26 trillion out of nothing. Was any of this enormous sum spent on infrastructure, public education, universal HC, bail out 5.1 million people who lost their homes?

Not a pretty picture for the poor and middle class. Hopefully things are improving or we are headed for big trouble.

Trump is doing his best to fix this..... the more democrats we vote out of office the better off these people will be......

That is why November is so important....democrats thrive on poverty, racism, hate and violence......

How so? What have republicans done to fix this?
From where I'm sitting personally, one thousand dollars means very little. It's just something that happens.

Try facing the facts of what happens to hundreds of thousands of working people.

I do, that's why MAGA is a good thing.

I want every man to be able to support a family, own a house, a car or two, and have a boat or RV and take a 2-week vacation every year on a 40-hour week job.

That used to be the norm in America, and I want to get back to that.

The younger generation is getting fucked, and I don't like that.

Damn! Okay last night, me n some friends were sitting around, talking about all the things we used to get away with. You can't get away with a damn thing anymore. We were free n wild. Nowadays, they just zoom into that phone n twiddle-thumb it. Oh yeah, no need for "bugs" anymore when everybody carries an audio listening device with a built-in video camera.

Just what is it that you want to "get away with"? That you mistreated another person? Yes, your transgressions are being recorded. People who watch their behavior do not get recorded.

 

[eagle1462010]

 

[sparky]

It took me a long time to get my head around how valuation is created vai debt, risk & inflationary legislations and (lack of) fiscal regulation(s)

I still struggle with it

The scary part is it can all go '<poof>' overnight

~S~

 

[Tehon]

Trump is exacerbating the problem.

Trump is attacking the core causes of the problem, Trade and Immigration.

The root of the problem is that capitalists control our social relationships. He represents the capitalists. he isn't doing a damn thing to help the people who voted for him. Any help they get will be by coincidence.

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

Point 4, the divergence between productivity growth and wage growth. That's back when immigration and trade policies were greatly changed, allowing massive importation of cheap labor, and more even competition between us workers and vastly cheaper foreign labor.


That's reality. And if you are ignorant of that, you need to go do some reading.

That is exactly right. That is reality.

We had a social relationship. It wasn't producing enough profit for the capitalists who sought expansion beyond our national borders. So they created the conditions that would allow them to expand, thereby altering our social conditions.

The capitalists are in control. Then and now.

 

[Correll]

These statistics are claimed to be true:
1. 50% of American wage earners earn less than $30k.
2. 63% of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency.
3. 80% of American workers live pay check to pay check.
4. Since 1973 American productivity has increased by 77%, yet hourly pay has grown by 12%. If the minimum wage was tracked to productivity, it would be over $20 an hour today.
5. 41% of American workers earn less than $12 per hour, with most without employer provided HC.
6. Since 2008 the federal government and the Fed created $26 trillion out of nothing. Was any of this enormous sum spent on infrastructure, public education, universal HC, bail out 5.1 million people who lost their homes?

Not a pretty picture for the poor and middle class. Hopefully things are improving or we are headed for big trouble.

Trump is doing his best to fix this..... the more democrats we vote out of office the better off these people will be......

That is why November is so important....democrats thrive on poverty, racism, hate and violence......

How so? What have republicans done to fix this?
From where I'm sitting personally, one thousand dollars means very little. It's just something that happens.

Try facing the facts of what happens to hundreds of thousands of working people.

I do, that's why MAGA is a good thing.

I want every man to be able to support a family, own a house, a car or two, and have a boat or RV and take a 2-week vacation every year on a 40-hour week job.

That used to be the norm in America, and I want to get back to that.

The younger generation is getting fucked, and I don't like that.

Damn! Okay last night, me n some friends were sitting around, talking about all the things we used to get away with. You can't get away with a damn thing anymore. We were free n wild. Nowadays, they just zoom into that phone n twiddle-thumb it. Oh yeah, no need for "bugs" anymore when everybody carries an audio listening device with a built-in video camera.

Just what is it that you want to "get away with"? That you mistreated another person? Yes, your transgressions are being recorded. People who watch their behavior do not get recorded.

"People who watch their behavior"?


Big Brother much?

 

[Tehon]

We don't have true Capitalism anymore......we have Croney Capitalism.....Where the Gov't picks and chooses the winners and get to join the millionaires club for doing so........The Founding Fathers warned us that it would destroy us and they were correct......

Marx was never correct........and Marx is a blueprint for disaster well beyond Capitalism.

You think Marx never wrote about how capitalists bought government?

 

[Correll]

Trump is attacking the core causes of the problem, Trade and Immigration.

The root of the problem is that capitalists control our social relationships. He represents the capitalists. he isn't doing a damn thing to help the people who voted for him. Any help they get will be by coincidence.

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

Point 4, the divergence between productivity growth and wage growth. That's back when immigration and trade policies were greatly changed, allowing massive importation of cheap labor, and more even competition between us workers and vastly cheaper foreign labor.


That's reality. And if you are ignorant of that, you need to go do some reading.

That is exactly right. That is reality.

We had a social relationship. It wasn't producing enough profit for the capitalists who sought expansion beyond our national borders. So they created the conditions that would allow them to expand, thereby altering our social conditions.

The capitalists are in control. Then and now.

The political class experienced no massive changes in the 1970s. The same people are in charge now, as were in charge in the 60s.



There were changes in polices, on trade and immigration, reflecting some changes in agendas among the parties.

 

[Marion Morrison]

These statistics are claimed to be true:
1. 50% of American wage earners earn less than $30k.
2. 63% of Americans can’t afford a $1,000 emergency.
3. 80% of American workers live pay check to pay check.
4. Since 1973 American productivity has increased by 77%, yet hourly pay has grown by 12%. If the minimum wage was tracked to productivity, it would be over $20 an hour today.
5. 41% of American workers earn less than $12 per hour, with most without employer provided HC.
6. Since 2008 the federal government and the Fed created $26 trillion out of nothing. Was any of this enormous sum spent on infrastructure, public education, universal HC, bail out 5.1 million people who lost their homes?

Not a pretty picture for the poor and middle class. Hopefully things are improving or we are headed for big trouble.

Trump is doing his best to fix this..... the more democrats we vote out of office the better off these people will be......

That is why November is so important....democrats thrive on poverty, racism, hate and violence......

How so? What have republicans done to fix this?
From where I'm sitting personally, one thousand dollars means very little. It's just something that happens.

Try facing the facts of what happens to hundreds of thousands of working people.

I do, that's why MAGA is a good thing.

I want every man to be able to support a family, own a house, a car or two, and have a boat or RV and take a 2-week vacation every year on a 40-hour week job.

That used to be the norm in America, and I want to get back to that.

The younger generation is getting fucked, and I don't like that.

Damn! Okay last night, me n some friends were sitting around, talking about all the things we used to get away with. You can't get away with a damn thing anymore. We were free n wild. Nowadays, they just zoom into that phone n twiddle-thumb it. Oh yeah, no need for "bugs" anymore when everybody carries an audio listening device with a built-in video camera.

Just what is it that you want to "get away with"? That you mistreated another person? Yes, your transgressions are being recorded. People who watch their behavior do not get recorded.

The things we "got away with" did not involve mistreating people whatsoever. Your mind is seriously warped, you know that?

 

[Marion Morrison]

That is exactly right. That is reality.

We had a social relationship. It wasn't producing enough profit for the capitalists who sought expansion beyond our national borders. So they created the conditions that would allow them to expand, thereby altering our social conditions.

The capitalists are in control. Then and now.

Soo..enter the solution..Communism, amirite, comrade?

As myself, I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself, k?

 

[Correll]

The root of the problem is that capitalists control our social relationships. He represents the capitalists. he isn't doing a damn thing to help the people who voted for him. Any help they get will be by coincidence.

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

Point 4, the divergence between productivity growth and wage growth. That's back when immigration and trade policies were greatly changed, allowing massive importation of cheap labor, and more even competition between us workers and vastly cheaper foreign labor.


That's reality. And if you are ignorant of that, you need to go do some reading.

That is exactly right. That is reality.

We had a social relationship. It wasn't producing enough profit for the capitalists who sought expansion beyond our national borders. So they created the conditions that would allow them to expand, thereby altering our social conditions.

The capitalists are in control. Then and now.

Soo..enter the solution..Communism, amirite, comrade?

As myself, I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself, k?

Agreed. YOu're not getting that without a fight.


How many people you willing to kill to get your utopia, Tehon?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Capitalists were in control in the past when we had nicely rising wages.


It was not until the liberal polices of Third World immigration, and the conservative policy of Free Trade sunk in, that wage growth and productivity growth seriously diverged.


YOur words seem to have nothing to do with historical reality.

Well, it is obvious that one of us is living in a contrived reality.

Point 4, the divergence between productivity growth and wage growth. That's back when immigration and trade policies were greatly changed, allowing massive importation of cheap labor, and more even competition between us workers and vastly cheaper foreign labor.


That's reality. And if you are ignorant of that, you need to go do some reading.

That is exactly right. That is reality.

We had a social relationship. It wasn't producing enough profit for the capitalists who sought expansion beyond our national borders. So they created the conditions that would allow them to expand, thereby altering our social conditions.

The capitalists are in control. Then and now.

Soo..enter the solution..Communism, amirite, comrade?

As myself, I'm going to tell you to go fuck yourself, k?

Agreed. YOu're not getting that without a fight.


How many people you willing to kill to get your utopia, Tehon?

I'm willing to die to preserve the American way of life. True story.


One difference between Communists and Americans in America, is that Americans grew up shooting and probably have grandpappy's gun.