CDZ If they ever did ban and confiscate guns here, what would actually happen?

[BlackSand]

It wouldn't go like that....the democrats are too smart for that....they would simply pass the law, and then, one by one they would pick off normal gun owners, make a big show of destroying their lives and scare everyone but the hard core into turning into their guns...then, the democrats in the media would declare the rest of the gun owners monsters and terrorists....giving the democrats even more power to use force when they found someone with a gun...

That would explain why they have resigned to going after one style of firearm at a time ...

If they spread it out ... They have faith that enough people are good enough to attempt to be cooperative.
If they tried to ban all firearms at one time ... They could not stop nor withstand the utter destruction and needless loss that would cause.

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[2aguy]

This column explains how they will do it....and why they keep pushing for more and more gun laws....

They want to put law abiding gun owners into a state of criminality...so any interaction with the police puts them in danger of arrest and imprisonment....that is how they will get gun owners to give up their guns......

Scott Morefield - Think They’ll Never ‘Come and Take’ Your Guns Without an Armed Revolt? Think Again

Consider: If rational minds on the Left know all this, to what end are they still pushing for such laws, especially when it’s obvious that they don’t care whether ANY gun control laws are actually enforced. Not yet anyway. (Remember, it’s always conservatives, not liberals, pushing for enforcement of existing law.)

And yet, they do want more and more laws on the books, and the more draconian, obscure, and hard to keep track of, the better. But why?

Here’s the answer, and it should scare every gun owner in the country:

They want to make de facto criminals out of the majority of the gun owning population.

That way, they can essentially pick us off, one by one.

Without necessarily meaning to, Mehta hits on this critical point in his piece: “A national gun buyback law would turn a significant portion of the American people into criminals,” he wrote. “Residents of New York and Connecticut snubbed their new laws … Compliance with the registration requirement has been modest at best, as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in both states refused to register their weapons. So far, then, the laws have been most successful in creating hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers who feel obligated to break the law.”

If liberals are able to pass any sort of “assault weapons” ban, buyback or no buyback, they know they will make criminals out of several million currently law-abiding gun owners. And even if the majority of those gun owners don’t follow the law now, that won’t make them any less a criminal. They just haven’t been caught yet.

But when the ‘right people’ control the levers of power and the ‘right laws’ are all in place, make no mistake - they will be caught.

Here’s the rub. It’s one thing to hold up your rifle and shout “come and take it,” à la Charleton Heston, before thousands of like-minded people. The Feds aren’t going to come to a National Rifle Association convention and start arresting people, at least not yet. And they aren’t going to conduct door-to-door house searches, arresting gun owners and confiscating their firearms, either. Not yet.

But believe me, under the right circumstances and with the right laws in place, the arrests will come. They’ll come when you’re going to work, or to the bank, or to the park with your kids, or a thousand other places. They’ll come after you’ve used your now-illegal AR-15 to defend yourself against a home invader, or if they spot it during a “routine” home search.

Never, ever underestimate these people and the depth of their evil. Remember, the Cheka managed to fill the Soviet gulags to the brim, and yet they did it quietly, with little fuss and even less armed revolt.

And they won’t need to arrest everyone to make the majority obey. No, they only need a few, and word will spread quickly.

So what will you do, dear AR-15 owner, when the ‘Cheka’ comes for your neighbor, and you know the laws are on the books to prosecute? Will a “buyback” and “amnesty” be enough to convince YOU to acquiesce? You’ve got a job, a wife, kids to raise. When they “come and take it,” is your family worth risking?

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that’s about to boil, people won’t jump until it’s too late.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

This column explains how they will do it....and why they keep pushing for more and more gun laws....

They want to put law abiding gun owners into a state of criminality...so any interaction with the police puts them in danger of arrest and imprisonment....that is how they will get gun owners to give up their guns......

Scott Morefield - Think They’ll Never ‘Come and Take’ Your Guns Without an Armed Revolt? Think Again

Consider: If rational minds on the Left know all this, to what end are they still pushing for such laws, especially when it’s obvious that they don’t care whether ANY gun control laws are actually enforced. Not yet anyway. (Remember, it’s always conservatives, not liberals, pushing for enforcement of existing law.)

And yet, they do want more and more laws on the books, and the more draconian, obscure, and hard to keep track of, the better. But why?

Here’s the answer, and it should scare every gun owner in the country:

They want to make de facto criminals out of the majority of the gun owning population.

That way, they can essentially pick us off, one by one.

Without necessarily meaning to, Mehta hits on this critical point in his piece: “A national gun buyback law would turn a significant portion of the American people into criminals,” he wrote. “Residents of New York and Connecticut snubbed their new laws … Compliance with the registration requirement has been modest at best, as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in both states refused to register their weapons. So far, then, the laws have been most successful in creating hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers who feel obligated to break the law.”

If liberals are able to pass any sort of “assault weapons” ban, buyback or no buyback, they know they will make criminals out of several million currently law-abiding gun owners. And even if the majority of those gun owners don’t follow the law now, that won’t make them any less a criminal. They just haven’t been caught yet.

But when the ‘right people’ control the levers of power and the ‘right laws’ are all in place, make no mistake - they will be caught.

Here’s the rub. It’s one thing to hold up your rifle and shout “come and take it,” à la Charleton Heston, before thousands of like-minded people. The Feds aren’t going to come to a National Rifle Association convention and start arresting people, at least not yet. And they aren’t going to conduct door-to-door house searches, arresting gun owners and confiscating their firearms, either. Not yet.

But believe me, under the right circumstances and with the right laws in place, the arrests will come. They’ll come when you’re going to work, or to the bank, or to the park with your kids, or a thousand other places. They’ll come after you’ve used your now-illegal AR-15 to defend yourself against a home invader, or if they spot it during a “routine” home search.

Never, ever underestimate these people and the depth of their evil. Remember, the Cheka managed to fill the Soviet gulags to the brim, and yet they did it quietly, with little fuss and even less armed revolt.

And they won’t need to arrest everyone to make the majority obey. No, they only need a few, and word will spread quickly.

So what will you do, dear AR-15 owner, when the ‘Cheka’ comes for your neighbor, and you know the laws are on the books to prosecute? Will a “buyback” and “amnesty” be enough to convince YOU to acquiesce? You’ve got a job, a wife, kids to raise. When they “come and take it,” is your family worth risking?

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that’s about to boil, people won’t jump until it’s too late.

To a degree, you are correct. But the word will spread quickly, and suddenly you'll have millions of armed gun owners in the streets, and at the statehouses, using gentle persuasion to teach the facts of life.

 

[JoeB131]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

 

[JoeB131]

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that’s about to boil, people won’t jump until it’s too late.

Okay, you realize that the boiling frog is a myth. A frog will leave when it slowly changes, but it will be shocked when you toss it into boiling water.

Here's the real problem you gun fetishist have right now.

Big Business is tired of your nonsense. They are tired of developing "Active Shooter Plans" or paying rent-a-cops to give the illusion of security from the nut with a gun. they are tired of paying billions in lost productivity due to gun violence.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

So did Jefferson, musing about the benefits of having your gun with you.

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."

No mention of a militia there.

 

[HenryBHough]

Why would the government confiscate your guns? That is dumb and will never happen.

Put a tax on ammo. A $25.00 or $50.00 per bullet tax would do the trick. It could be used to offset Trump's infrastructure initiative.

You would also see gun crime plummet.

Ammo in proper storage doesn't deteriorate. Thank you for being this board's biggest, most flagrant PIMP for boosting the sales of countless makers of ammo.

 

[JoeB131]

So did Jefferson, musing about the benefits of having your gun with you.

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."

No mention of a militia there.

I'm pretty sure that Jefferson didn't let Sally Hemings or his other slaves enjoy the benefit of having a gun.

Nope. Who got to have a gun was "well-regulated".

 

[PredFan]

But what they want to do, what their plan is, is "death by 1000 papercuts".A time will come where you can have your guns, but you can't use them for anything.

That works, too.

I have to give you credit for not lying about your intention to take away my rights like most of your peers do.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

This column explains how they will do it....and why they keep pushing for more and more gun laws....

They want to put law abiding gun owners into a state of criminality...so any interaction with the police puts them in danger of arrest and imprisonment....that is how they will get gun owners to give up their guns......

Scott Morefield - Think They’ll Never ‘Come and Take’ Your Guns Without an Armed Revolt? Think Again

Consider: If rational minds on the Left know all this, to what end are they still pushing for such laws, especially when it’s obvious that they don’t care whether ANY gun control laws are actually enforced. Not yet anyway. (Remember, it’s always conservatives, not liberals, pushing for enforcement of existing law.)

And yet, they do want more and more laws on the books, and the more draconian, obscure, and hard to keep track of, the better. But why?

Here’s the answer, and it should scare every gun owner in the country:

They want to make de facto criminals out of the majority of the gun owning population.

That way, they can essentially pick us off, one by one.

Without necessarily meaning to, Mehta hits on this critical point in his piece: “A national gun buyback law would turn a significant portion of the American people into criminals,” he wrote. “Residents of New York and Connecticut snubbed their new laws … Compliance with the registration requirement has been modest at best, as hundreds of thousands of gun owners in both states refused to register their weapons. So far, then, the laws have been most successful in creating hundreds of thousands of lawbreakers who feel obligated to break the law.”

If liberals are able to pass any sort of “assault weapons” ban, buyback or no buyback, they know they will make criminals out of several million currently law-abiding gun owners. And even if the majority of those gun owners don’t follow the law now, that won’t make them any less a criminal. They just haven’t been caught yet.

But when the ‘right people’ control the levers of power and the ‘right laws’ are all in place, make no mistake - they will be caught.

Here’s the rub. It’s one thing to hold up your rifle and shout “come and take it,” à la Charleton Heston, before thousands of like-minded people. The Feds aren’t going to come to a National Rifle Association convention and start arresting people, at least not yet. And they aren’t going to conduct door-to-door house searches, arresting gun owners and confiscating their firearms, either. Not yet.

But believe me, under the right circumstances and with the right laws in place, the arrests will come. They’ll come when you’re going to work, or to the bank, or to the park with your kids, or a thousand other places. They’ll come after you’ve used your now-illegal AR-15 to defend yourself against a home invader, or if they spot it during a “routine” home search.

Never, ever underestimate these people and the depth of their evil. Remember, the Cheka managed to fill the Soviet gulags to the brim, and yet they did it quietly, with little fuss and even less armed revolt.

And they won’t need to arrest everyone to make the majority obey. No, they only need a few, and word will spread quickly.

So what will you do, dear AR-15 owner, when the ‘Cheka’ comes for your neighbor, and you know the laws are on the books to prosecute? Will a “buyback” and “amnesty” be enough to convince YOU to acquiesce? You’ve got a job, a wife, kids to raise. When they “come and take it,” is your family worth risking?

No, when they take your guns there will be no civil war. There will be no large-scale revolution, because liberals are experts at pushing that Overton Window enough not to shock the system. Like frogs in water that’s about to boil, people won’t jump until it’s too late.

Just remember what happened to the BLM(Bureau of Land Management) when they tried to use force upon people to protect Harry Reid's heavy metals to China deal.. We the People need to put the fear of US back into the government...

"When governments fear the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny. The strongest reason for the people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government.".

When government fears the people, there is liberty ...
www.monticello.org/site/jefferson/when-government-fears-people-there-liberty-spurious-quotation

2 million men marching upon D.C. fully armed would have those liberal rats jumping ship and taking their millions into their rat holes...

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

So did Jefferson, musing about the benefits of having your gun with you.

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."

No mention of a militia there.

I'm pretty sure that Jefferson didn't let Sally Hemings or his other slaves enjoy the benefit of having a gun.

Nope. Who got to have a gun was "well-regulated".

Irrelevant and insipid.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

The militia is not a condition placed on the right

I've posted the grammatical dissection of the second many times already

The militia clause is NOT placing a condition on the right of the people

 

[Skull Pilot]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

So you're back to the "you're not a murderer yet" flawed logic

You're not a child rapist YET but you have all the tools to be one so why don't we chemically castrate you now and put your name on the sex offenders list?

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

So you're back to the "you're not a murderer yet" flawed logic

You're not a child rapist YET but you have all the tools to be one so why don't we chemically castrate you now and put your name on the sex offenders list?

Do you know that if you kill in self defense, that isn't murder? We the People of the United States of America, are law abiding citizens unlike you commie bastards who want to tear this country apart. We wait and we are patient.

 

[Skull Pilot]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

So you're back to the "you're not a murderer yet" flawed logic

You're not a child rapist YET but you have all the tools to be one so why don't we chemically castrate you now and put your name on the sex offenders list?

Do you know that if you kill in self defense, that isn't murder? We the People of the United States of America, are law abiding citizens unlike you commie bastards who want to tear this country apart. We wait and we are patient.

You might want to check who you are responding to

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

The right of the people to keep and bear shall not be infringed

Okay, you once again leave out the part about a "Well-Regulated Militia".

because, heck, by that logic, why can't "The people' keep nukes, or anthrax or a howitzer in the backyard. I mean, shit, if your whole logic is "we needs us some weapons so we can takes on the gummit when they don't do what we want!" then, why not let 'the people' have weapons that are truly enough to scare government?

The fact is 2/3 of all murderers are not first time offenders as you claim

I'm not saying they were. I'm saying they were following the law up until the time they had a bad day with the old lady and popped her one.

So you're back to the "you're not a murderer yet" flawed logic

You're not a child rapist YET but you have all the tools to be one so why don't we chemically castrate you now and put your name on the sex offenders list?

Do you know that if you kill in self defense, that isn't murder? We the People of the United States of America, are law abiding citizens unlike you commie bastards who want to tear this country apart. We wait and we are patient.

You might want to check who you are responding to

I have a few liberals on ignore..

 

[kaz]

Americans are not Australians or Euros. There is no way to enforce a national ban here. An actual attempt would cause an armed uprising of enormous proportions.

It wouldn't go like that....the democrats are too smart for that....they would simply pass the law, and then, one by one they would pick off normal gun owners, make a big show of destroying their lives and scare everyone but the hard core into turning into their guns...then, the democrats in the media would declare the rest of the gun owners monsters and terrorists....giving the democrats even more power to use force when they found someone with a gun...

The government trying to enforce a ban on guns would cause a national crisis of epic proportions starting in the military. I come from a military family and a military community. Ex military are a major part of the armed civilian population. They would consider that a Constitutional crisis.

I don't think even the Democrats would cross that line out of fear

 

[kaz]

So did Jefferson, musing about the benefits of having your gun with you.

"A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprize, and independance to the mind. Games played with the ball and others of that nature, are too violent for the body and stamp no character on the mind. Let your gun therefore be the constant companion of your walks."

No mention of a militia there.

I'm pretty sure that Jefferson didn't let Sally Hemings or his other slaves enjoy the benefit of having a gun.

Nope. Who got to have a gun was "well-regulated".

What a bizarre argument.

At the time, they did not consider Sally a citizen of the United States. Your argument fell apart there

 

[JoeB131]

I have to give you credit for not lying about your intention to take away my rights like most of your peers do.

I don't consider it a right, and since you guys won't go along with a sensible comprimise, why bother.

You want Nikolas Cruz armed. I don't.

 

[JoeB131]

What a bizarre argument.

At the time, they did not consider Sally a citizen of the United States. Your argument fell apart there

Except the Second doesn't say "Citizens", it says, "the people'. Sally was definitely people. She just wasn't the people Tommy wanted having a gun. Who know what she'd do the creepy old man who started having less-than-consensual sex with her starting at age 16.