if there was a war between China and America, it's a safe bet America would lose!

in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War


Quit posting like a moron...



 
But they have no desire for a war, they plan to dominate economically, not with their military.

Exactly.

China is an economic threat only. That's why we should be investing in science and young people.
Also a cyber threat... shutting down our electric grids, wiping out a satellite, stealing our technology, hacking our top secrets, rigging our elections... that kind of stuff.... which is the way of our new wars, imo...

And in that aspect, we are weak, and need to strengthen our infrastructures and cyber vulnerabilities.


What do you really think we spend a million dollars on a hammer?

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in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War

It's also certain that you would side with any country that is not USA.
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War

The United States would never directly take on China itself and would unleash Japan on China...
Just corner the market on rice and starve them out.

They have noodles...
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War

The United States would never directly take on China itself and would unleash Japan on China...
Just corner the market on rice and starve them out.

They have noodles...

What in the hell does the size of their penises have to do with anything?
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War

The United States would never directly take on China itself and would unleash Japan on China...
Just corner the market on rice and starve them out.

They have noodles...

What in the hell does the size of their penises have to do with anything?

:20:

Chinese eat noodles in broth that are like angel hair and not some limp twig...

:puhleeze:
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War

The United States would never directly take on China itself and would unleash Japan on China...
Just corner the market on rice and starve them out.

They have noodles...

What in the hell does the size of their penises have to do with anything?

:20:

Chinese eat noodles in broth that are like angel hair and not some limp twig...

:puhleeze:
The noodles are made with... wait for it... rice. :biggrin:
 
China would not dare move against Taiwan with Trump in the White House. But, if any of the Democrats now running for president were to win, China might very well be tempted to try to take Taiwan.

Trump has been sending U.S. warships through the Taiwan Strait as a pointed message to China, and China has not dared to challenge any of those warships.
 
China and the US are not doomed to perpetual enmity. they can enjoy peace again but to do so, China has to use force to bring the US back to the negotiating table

China are too restrained and principled
 
China is a magnificent and prosperous realm of civilization and military might.

they would defeat the US easily. the US need to go to the negiotiating table to avoid this!
 
China is unique. not just one of the great civilizations, but China IS civilization itself!
 
There's not an a single example in history where a trade war had a winner. Trade wars are for losers
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War
What specific war gaming simulation systems are you talking about where the US gets its ass handed to it against China and Russia? I have experience in this field and I have not seen such a scenario yet.

Are these military gaming simulation systems or are we taking X-Box / PS4? Do they take into account Joint-Coalition or just 2-on-1.

Unfortunately, however, past Presidents have either ignored China and Russia, made jokes about them, attempted to appease them, or committed treason by working with them / giving them things...like uranium and / or Crimea, for example. Hell, Diane Feinstein was caught facilitating Chinese espionage over DECADES - a spy was one of her inner team members....and Democrats sure didn't raise hell and rush to appoint a special counsel to investigate....


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I think the biggest problem is that Democrats would side with China. Like our tech companies. If the weirdo extremists had to choose between communists and us, I honestly don't know which side they would be on.
 
in war games simulating great-power conflict in which the United States fights Russia and China, the United States gets its ass handed to it.

If a war broke out between the United States and China, the clash between two of the world’s most powerful militaries would be horrific. And the United States could very well lose.

The question is what could actually cause the United States to fight China. What if China invades and occupies Taiwan, a democratic US partner and arms customer? Would America actually risk World War III? What if China forces its claim to the Senkaku Islands, which the United States considers to belong to Japan? Does that fall within America’s treaty commitments to defend its ally?

The Chinese don’t have to comprehensively defeat the United States militarily in order to achieve their near-term objectives

Trump Is Preparing for a New Cold War


That's exactly what the nazis and Japanese thought too......
 
If a war broke between US and China.

1. In an all out war US will win. Our military is far more advance than you think.
2. You will expect Russia will get involved in this conflict.
3. This is will trigger WW3.
4. This where you need the NATO that some of you trying to abolish ( this is trump stupidity if you ask me).


I thought the current administration policy is getting away from being a police around the world.
So why are we patrolling the Taiwan straits?
 
If it's all out war of the type we saw about 80 years ago everyone would lose. Remember when Bill Clinton told Americans "for the first time in modern history there are no missiles pointed at the U.S."? He had to know it was a lie because he just finished paying off big political donors by selling ICBM technology to China. Nobody wins in a missile war and you can bet your ass that Harry Truman wouldn't be the only politician in history to authorize the use of nuclear weapons.
 

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