"If the United States had not helped us, we (USSR) would not have won the WW2 " , Nikita Khrushchev

[Litwin]

this is a well-know FACT , BUT THE COMMIEs AND MUSCOVITE IMPERIALISTS HATE IT. FOR POSTING THIS TEXT IN MUSCOVY , YOU´D END UP IN PUTIN´S GULAG , SIDE BY SIDE with Navalny

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war ... One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

~ Nikita Khrushchev

You're welcome, Ivan.

 

[rightwinger]

He is correct
The US helped the Soviets win the war

 

[jehanne1431]

this is a well-know FACT , BUT THE COMMIEs AND MUSCOVITE IMPERIALISTS HATE IT. FOR POSTING THIS TEXT IN MUSCOVY , YOU´D END UP IN PUTIN´S GULAG , SIDE BY SIDE with Navalny

"If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war ... One-on-one against Hitler's Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me."

~ Nikita Khrushchev

You're welcome, Ivan.

Gratitude was never much of at an attribute of Stalin's. . But I imagine we need to be grateful to Russia for their fighting or the USA no doubt would have lost even more soldiers before this war was over. ----------------- But you look at these despots, Hitler, Stalin and Imperial Japan, and soon after, Mao Tse Tung. How does one become so corrupt with power and hate where they want to murder millions? Only a demon from hell can be that evil, and that is what possessed these men. Which is why Ephesians says "we war not against flesh and blood, but evil spirits in the air." Yet, most ignore this aspect of reality their entire lives.

 

[Litwin]

He is correct
The US helped the Soviets win the war

i´d say . The Soviets helped the US win the war

 

[rightwinger]

i´d say . The Soviets helped the US win the war

The US defeated Japan
The Soviets defeated the Nazis

 

[AMart]

i´d say . The Soviets helped the US win the war

Hitler did more to seal their fate by invading the USSR. It wasn't "our" war the Nazis didn't invade the USA they did invade the USSR. The USA had no business fighting in Europe other than bailing out Rothchild ran England. It would have been interesting if Germany won.

 

[AMart]

The US defeated Japan
The Soviets defeated the Nazis

Not without massive US support.

By the end of June 1944 the United States had sent to the Soviets under lend-lease more than 11,000 planes; over 6,000 tanks and tank destroyers; and 300,000 trucks and other military vehicles.

Many of the planes have been flown directly from the United States to the Soviet Union over the northern route via Alaska and Siberia, others were crated and shipped to the Persian Gulf, where they were assembled and flown into Russia.

We have also sent to the Soviets about 350 locomotives, 1,640 flat cars, and close to half a million tons of rails and accessories, axles, and wheels, all for the improvement of the railways feeding the Red armies on the Eastern Front. For the armies themselves we have sent miles of field telephone wire, thousands of telephones, and many thousands of tons of explosives. And we have also provided machine tools and other equipment to help the Russians manufacture their own planes, guns, shells, and bombs.

We have supplied our allies with large quantities of food. The Soviet Union alone has received some 3,000,000 tons. Lend-lease has contributed about 10 percent of Britain’s over-all food supply. This, together with a great increase in agricultural production in the British Isles, has helped to feed the British civilians and armed forces. Bread, potatoes, carrots, cabbage, and other common vegetables have been available to the British from their home gardens and farms. The United States has provided a high proportion of such foods as bacon, eggs, cheese, and fruit juices.

How Much of What Goods Have We Sent to Which Allies? | AHA

 

[Litwin]

The US defeated Japan
The Soviets defeated the Nazis

ussr was lucky , ussr started the WW2 as a Hitler ally, Luckily for Politburo, they ended up on the side of the super state which produced more than 50% of the world GDP, and 95 % of all high tech
THE LEADING Muscovite historian speaks :


and

Mark Solonin: "The USA could destroy the USSR within 15 years, but they did not do it"

According to the analyst, in the late 1940s, the United States could have easily wiped out all major Soviet cities from the face of the earth. We are covering the agenda for you | Novye Izvestia

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[rightwinger]

By the end of June 1944 the United States had sent to the Soviets under lend-lease more than 11,000 planes; over 6,000 tanks and tank destroyers; and 300,000 trucks and other military vehicles.

Very true

Much like we are doing with Ukraine.
We let them do the fighting and dying while we provide the tools to do it

 

[AMart]

Very true

Much like we are doing with Ukraine.
We let them do the fighting and dying while we provide the tools to do it

Except 500000 Americans died in WW2. Funny how we propped them in WW2 then the minute the war ended they were our mortal enemy and still are. Although the global spread of communism was very real. Now it's global corporations.

 

[Litwin]

Hitler did more to seal their fate by invading the USSR. It wasn't "our" war the Nazis didn't invade the USA they did invade the USSR. The USA had no business fighting in Europe other than bailing out Rothchild ran England. It would have been interesting if Germany won.

"THE CITY of revolution " WHICH KOBA TRIED to starve to DEATH !

One such Soviet myth, concealing a horror with which we would not like to be associated and the blame for which is all to easy to heap falsely on the Germans, is the so-called siege of Leningrad, in which between 600,000 and 1.5 million people died of starvation.

It is easier to write an account in which truths are embellished than it is to fabricate a myth, the purpose of which is to conceal truth. The Soviets were not particularly good at it, probably because their contempt for people in general was so great that they did not see the need to do the job well: “и так схавают” [“they’ll swallow it like that”], is the phrase generally used in Russia.

Thus it is that the Soviet myth of the “siege” of Leningrad is littered with inconsistencies and total incompatibilities that just beg anyone who cares to do so to pay attention and to raise questions.

The Soviet task was to create a myth of [compulsory element #1] evil Germans besieging a major military-industrial centre and in the process starving a million people to death in a Soviet city where [compulsory element #2] the brave workers continue to the bitter end to produce masses of war materials for the Soviet’s Union war while of course [compulsory element #3] truly caring for the citizenry and evacuating as many women and children as possible.

The tale therefore goes:

“Despite growing difficulties, in the second half of 1941, the city’s factories produced 713 tanks, 480 armoured vehicles, 58 armoured trains, over 5,000 artillery pieces and anti-tank guns, about 10,000 mortars, over 3,000,000 shells, over 80,000 rockets and bombs…” [Source: Dzeniskevich A.R., Kovalchuk B.M, Sobolev G.L, Tsamutali A.n., Shishkin V.A, Nepokrenniy Leningrad (Unbowed Leningrad), Nauka Publishers, Leningrad 1970]

NB: The raw materials for this production were brought into Leningrad from other parts of the USSR outwith the blockade. There are no iron ore mines in Leningrad.

“It should be noted that the City Defence Committee decreed that 50% of the city’s output of military goods should be sent for use in other sections of the Soviet-German Front” [Source: Central Archive of the Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation, Fund 217, List 1258, Doc. 8, p. 15]
NB: This makes it abundantly clear that outbound transport was available too.

“The scale of the evacuation dropped dramatically in the autumn and winter of 1941. Only 104,711 people, including 36,783 citizens of Leningrad, were carried by air or on waterborne transport to the Mainland. Mass evacuations were renewed on 22 January 1942 across the ice of Lake Ladoga _ the Road of Life. No fewer than 500,000 of the blockaded citizenry were to be transported. The travel was in several stages: train from Leningrad to Lake Ladoga […], then vehicles across the lake to the evacuation points on the East Bank […], and finally further into the country by rail again. The speed of the evacuation rose consistently. While only a little over 11,000 were carried across the Lake in January 1942, in February it was 117,500, and 222,000 in March. A total of 554,186 people were thus evacuated by 15 April.” [Source: https://evacuation.spbarchives.ru/history]

NB: We now know that not only was transport to and from Leningrad available but that capacity was plentiful.

With the above in mind, it is clear that Leningrad was subject to a very strange “siege” indeed — a siege or blockade during which industrially large quantities of goods and people were constantly moved to and from it. That Leningrad was blockaded is a myth.

Once a lie is found in a story, there is a likelihood that it will contain others. It also make one ask questions, the most important of which is: given the fact that there was transport aplenty, why was no food brought in to feed the starving? What really happened?

The following essay by Mark Solonin analyses these and other facts about the ‘siege’ of Leningrad. In the process, he rips the myth of a siege to shreds and begins to provide answers to many of the questions that arise.

Mark Solonin: The Siege of Leningrad - Facts and Questions - Rights in Russia

The fate of the Leningrad population was no different from that of the villagers thrown out into the frost from their burning homes on the approaches to Moscow. The slogan “Give all for the front, give all for victory” included people, too.

www.rightsinrussia.org

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[Blaster]

Hitler did more to seal their fate by invading the USSR. It wasn't "our" war the Nazis didn't invade the USA they did invade the USSR. The USA had no business fighting in Europe other than bailing out Rothchild ran England. It would have been interesting if Germany won.

Hitler didn't expect the United States to enter the war.

 

[braalian]

It’s well known that the Soviets did the heavy lifting in the war in Europe. No historian disputes that.

 

[gipper]

Hitler did more to seal their fate by invading the USSR. It wasn't "our" war the Nazis didn't invade the USA they did invade the USSR. The USA had no business fighting in Europe other than bailing out Rothchild ran England. It would have been interesting if Germany won.

Hitler had no choice. Stalin was preparing to invade with his massive army, and conquer all of Europe. Hitler just beat him to the punch. This is evidenced by the enormous Red Army presence all along it’s frontier and easily destroyed and captured by the Germans.

 

[braalian]

Hitler had no choice. Stalin was preparing to invade with his massive army, and conquer all of Europe. Hitler just beat him to the punch. This is evidenced by the enormous Red Army presence all along it’s frontier and easily destroyed and captured by the Germans.

Mmmm, maybe the red army was there because hitler had been invading every country in Europe left and right?

 

[rightwinger]

Hitler didn't expect the United States to enter the war.

Hitler declared war on the US

 

[AMart]

It’s well known that the Soviets did the heavy lifting in the war in Europe. No historian disputes that.

And an obscene body count.

 

[rightwinger]

And an obscene body count.

On both sides

 

[AMart]

Hitler declared war on the US

Which was meaningless. They didn't have the ability to bring that war to the USA. Kinda like Iran declaring war on the USA.

 

[rightwinger]

Which was meaningless. They didn't have the ability to bring that war to the USA. Kinda like Iran declaring war on the USA.

Hitler brought the war to the US immediately after declaring war. He sent submarine wolf packs to our shores

Stupid on Germany’s part
Here they had the US at war with Japan which would have guaranteed Western Europe remain under their control

Declaring war on the U.S. gave FDR the excuse he needed to invade Europe