If the election were held today

[kaz]

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Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

What is he supposed to do?

It's simple ... If he doesn't completely shut down the economy and destroy the lives of millions of people, he doesn't care that he's killing children.

If he does lock everyone in their homes and prevent all forms of direct commerce, he's a totalitarian monster who doesn't care that people are out of work and can't feed their families.

It's simple ...

It is relatively simple. The rest of the world has shown us the way. America was once the place the world looked to see the impossible done. Now we can't even do the basics. We instead choose to show the world our ass.

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific...

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific..

How to conquer Covid, of course, fool.

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

No shit.
Just at very low levels relative to the US.
Levels that allow their society and economy to funciton.

And that's not necessarily a good thing for them. How long will they have it with low infection rates but no ability to eliminate it? It could be permanent.

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan. Of course Democrats have no plan, you just pounce on any opportunity to attack.

Also, you don't know shit since you think you can compare different countries with entirely different methods for counting cases and deaths as if they were the same.

Democrats are just shallow and ignorant

 

[Nostra]

Biden 352
Trump 186

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Nothing to worry about Republicans. If only Trump would show a willingness to right a sinking ship

You keep clinging to your polls and other wet dreams. We'll check in nov 5 and see how you're doing then.

If you don’t trust the polls, look at the 2018 midterms

9 million more people voted for Democrats than Republicans. Hillary only won by 3 million

Hillary lost 304-232

Her meaningless popular vote margin, and then some, can be found in KKKalifornia.

Sooner or later, that popular vote catches up with you. Trump may have won while losing by three million. Not much he can do with losing by nine million

Not much he can do? Howsabout wait until November, Dummy?

Nobody has voted yet, despite your fantasies to the contrary.

 

[Nostra]

Polls in 2016:

HILLARY IN AN ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE!!!!!!


REALITY:

 

[westwall]

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Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

If the 99% of the country who aren't infected in any way vote to re-elect The President, I'm pretty sure he's back in.

Unfortunately, most voters give Trump low marks on his handling of the COVID crisis.

Most Presidents would have risen to the challenge. Trump has been a disaster

Ummmm, no, that's just progressive propaganda. The real people know Trump was on the job while you clowns were wasting time on the russia hoax.

 

[whitehall]

Identical numbers given to Hillary in the summer of 2016. What's the point? Does the left want to move election day? You almost gotta laugh that exit polls on election day gave John Kerry the win over George Bush. Biden has yet to come out of the basement and lefties are dancing in the street. Latest Biden quote: "Arizona is an important city".

 

[U2Edge]

Biden 352
Trump 186

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Nothing to worry about Republicans. If only Trump would show a willingness to right a sinking ship

Very similar to the 2008 map when Obama won his first election. The differences would be Arizona going Blue this time, while Iowa and Indiana remain Red.

 

[U2Edge]

Today's polls ignore the ISSUES and focus on personalities, and the constant media slanders of the past four years have had an impact.

At some point, Biden will have to come out of the cave and answer some serious questions. One can only hope that The People are paying attention.

and it goes without saying, three months is an eternity in politics. If the infamous RBG kicks the bucket, THAT will be the biggest issue on peoples' minds come Election Day. One of the horrible things about this vote-by-mail scheme is that it will induce a lot of people to vote extremely early, before a lot of important developments take place.

Stupid, stupid, stupid. Which is exactly what the Left wants.

Nothing important is going to happen before the election. The economy will still be mired in recession in three months. The unemployment rate will still be the highest its ever been in decades. Covid-19 will be spreading deeper into the population, and sadly, current projections are that 90,000 more Americans will have died from this virus, who did not have to if Trump had simply sealed the border from all entry on January 20, 2020 like Taiwan did when it sealed entry into their country on that date.

Its terrible to thing about, but by November 3, 2020, the total Americans dead from covid-19 might be at 230,000! The number of dead Americans from Covid-19 would be 100 or less if Trump had just done what Taiwan did.

 

[Claudette]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

 

[rightwinger]

Polls in 2016:

HILLARY IN AN ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE!!!!!!


REALITY:

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Counties don’t vote

 

[Nostra]

Polls in 2016:

HILLARY IN AN ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE!!!!!!


REALITY:

View attachment 365275

Counties don’t vote

But the people in those counties do. Not much blue, is there Simpleton?

 

[rightwinger]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

Trump declared Mission Accomplished once he banned flights from China. Those 15 cases grew to over 3 million.

Guess what?
Travelers from Wuhan are welcome around the world, travelers from the US are not

 

[rightwinger]

Polls in 2016:

HILLARY IN AN ELECTORAL LANDSLIDE!!!!!!


REALITY:

View attachment 365275

Counties don’t vote

But the people in those counties do. Not much blue, is there Simpleton?

More people live in those blue dots than live in all that red area Simpleton

 

[Hutch Starskey]

View attachment 365242

Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

What is he supposed to do?

It's simple ... If he doesn't completely shut down the economy and destroy the lives of millions of people, he doesn't care that he's killing children.

If he does lock everyone in their homes and prevent all forms of direct commerce, he's a totalitarian monster who doesn't care that people are out of work and can't feed their families.

It's simple ...

It is relatively simple. The rest of the world has shown us the way. America was once the place the world looked to see the impossible done. Now we can't even do the basics. We instead choose to show the world our ass.

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific...

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific..

How to conquer Covid, of course, fool.

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

No shit.
Just at very low levels relative to the US.
Levels that allow their society and economy to funciton.

And that's not necessarily a good thing for them. How long will they have it with low infection rates but no ability to eliminate it? It could be permanent.

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan. Of course Democrats have no plan, you just pounce on any opportunity to attack.

Also, you don't know shit since you think you can compare different countries with entirely different methods for counting cases and deaths as if they were the same.

Democrats are just shallow and ignorant

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan

That was the plan. Of course the raging red states ignored it completely with the consent and encouragement of the president.

 

[Claudette]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

Trump declared Mission Accomplished once he banned flights from China. Those 15 cases grew to over 3 million.

Guess what?
Travelers from Wuhan are welcome around the world, travelers from the US are not

Are you sure of that. Wuhan is where the pandemic started. I doubt anyone from there is welcome anywhere.

I doubt any countries who have Covid victims are welcome anywhere. Your point is idiotic.

 

[U2Edge]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

Just banning flights from China would do nothing in a pandemic. Virus's don't respect borders, they go after people, their hosts, their reach is global. Banning flights from one country accomplished nothing. The New York City area was ceded by virus that was brought in from Europe.

The fact is, if Trump had sealed/blocked entry into the United States on January 20, 2020 like Taiwan did for their country, we'd be talking about 100 deaths from covid-19 instead of 140,000 dead. Taiwan has only had 7 people die from covid-19.

 

[rightwinger]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

Trump declared Mission Accomplished once he banned flights from China. Those 15 cases grew to over 3 million.

Guess what?
Travelers from Wuhan are welcome around the world, travelers from the US are not

Are you sure of that. Wuhan is where the pandemic started. I doubt anyone from there is welcome anywhere.

I doubt any countries who have Covid victims are welcome anywhere. Your point is idiotic.

China shut down Wuhan completely. They mandated stay at home orders and enforced them

Trump has blown off the threat of the TRUMPvirus, told everyone it is no worse than the flu, mocked those who wear masks.

Wuhan is now clear, the US is not

 

[kaz]

View attachment 365242

Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

What is he supposed to do?

It's simple ... If he doesn't completely shut down the economy and destroy the lives of millions of people, he doesn't care that he's killing children.

If he does lock everyone in their homes and prevent all forms of direct commerce, he's a totalitarian monster who doesn't care that people are out of work and can't feed their families.

It's simple ...

It is relatively simple. The rest of the world has shown us the way. America was once the place the world looked to see the impossible done. Now we can't even do the basics. We instead choose to show the world our ass.

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific...

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific..

How to conquer Covid, of course, fool.

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

No shit.
Just at very low levels relative to the US.
Levels that allow their society and economy to funciton.

And that's not necessarily a good thing for them. How long will they have it with low infection rates but no ability to eliminate it? It could be permanent.

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan. Of course Democrats have no plan, you just pounce on any opportunity to attack.

Also, you don't know shit since you think you can compare different countries with entirely different methods for counting cases and deaths as if they were the same.

Democrats are just shallow and ignorant

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan

That was the plan. Of course the raging red states ignored it completely with the consent and encouragement of the president.

You just showed how stupid you are when you disagreed with me that States and countries have different standards for measuring cases and deaths. You're a drooling, ignorant moron who doesn't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

Sadly neither ignorance nor stupidity is ever enough to stop a Democrat from opining on things they know nothing about

 

[Hutch Starskey]

View attachment 365242

Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

What is he supposed to do?

It's simple ... If he doesn't completely shut down the economy and destroy the lives of millions of people, he doesn't care that he's killing children.

If he does lock everyone in their homes and prevent all forms of direct commerce, he's a totalitarian monster who doesn't care that people are out of work and can't feed their families.

It's simple ...

It is relatively simple. The rest of the world has shown us the way. America was once the place the world looked to see the impossible done. Now we can't even do the basics. We instead choose to show the world our ass.

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific...

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific..

How to conquer Covid, of course, fool.

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

No shit.
Just at very low levels relative to the US.
Levels that allow their society and economy to funciton.

And that's not necessarily a good thing for them. How long will they have it with low infection rates but no ability to eliminate it? It could be permanent.

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan. Of course Democrats have no plan, you just pounce on any opportunity to attack.

Also, you don't know shit since you think you can compare different countries with entirely different methods for counting cases and deaths as if they were the same.

Democrats are just shallow and ignorant

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan

That was the plan. Of course the raging red states ignored it completely with the consent and encouragement of the president.

You just showed how stupid you are when you disagreed with me that States and countries have different standards for measuring cases and deaths. You're a drooling, ignorant moron who doesn't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

Sadly neither ignorance nor stupidity is ever enough to stop a Democrat from opining on things they know nothing about

You just showed how stupid you are when you disagreed with me that States and countries have different standards for measuring cases and deaths. You're a drooling, ignorant moron who doesn't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

Sadly neither ignorance nor stupidity is ever enough to stop a Democrat from opining on things they know nothing about

LOL...what does that even mean? It's a string of words that mean nothing.
It was apparent in your first post that you had nothing of substance to add.

There's one measure that is indisputable. We have the worst spread of Covid in the world. By far.

 

[kaz]

View attachment 365242

Trump wasn’t leading the fight on COVID back then

What is he supposed to do?

It's simple ... If he doesn't completely shut down the economy and destroy the lives of millions of people, he doesn't care that he's killing children.

If he does lock everyone in their homes and prevent all forms of direct commerce, he's a totalitarian monster who doesn't care that people are out of work and can't feed their families.

It's simple ...

It is relatively simple. The rest of the world has shown us the way. America was once the place the world looked to see the impossible done. Now we can't even do the basics. We instead choose to show the world our ass.

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific...

What did the rest of the world show us?

Be specific..

How to conquer Covid, of course, fool.

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

Um ... none of them have done that. They all still have it

No shit.
Just at very low levels relative to the US.
Levels that allow their society and economy to funciton.

And that's not necessarily a good thing for them. How long will they have it with low infection rates but no ability to eliminate it? It could be permanent.

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan. Of course Democrats have no plan, you just pounce on any opportunity to attack.

Also, you don't know shit since you think you can compare different countries with entirely different methods for counting cases and deaths as if they were the same.

Democrats are just shallow and ignorant

The plan in March was flatten the curve to not overwhelm the medical system. That's still the best plan

That was the plan. Of course the raging red states ignored it completely with the consent and encouragement of the president.

You just showed how stupid you are when you disagreed with me that States and countries have different standards for measuring cases and deaths. You're a drooling, ignorant moron who doesn't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

Sadly neither ignorance nor stupidity is ever enough to stop a Democrat from opining on things they know nothing about

You just showed how stupid you are when you disagreed with me that States and countries have different standards for measuring cases and deaths. You're a drooling, ignorant moron who doesn't have a fucking clue what you are talking about.

Sadly neither ignorance nor stupidity is ever enough to stop a Democrat from opining on things they know nothing about

LOL...what does that even mean? It's a string of words that mean nothing.
It was apparent in your first post that you had nothing of substance to add.

There's one measure that is indisputable. We have the worst spread of Covid in the world. By far.

You don't understand that every country in the world has different standards and methods for collecting covid data, which means you can't just put them against each other as if they are apples to apples. Of course you don't, you're an idiot.

As for your admitting you can't read and absorb information either, true dat.

And again, you have NO plan. I'm still on board with the March plan to flatten the curve to not overwhelm our medical system. That was the right plan, still is.

But you have none but to look for factoids no matter how meaningless they are (like comparing data collected with different standards) and pounce, criticize and attack. You have nothing else

 

[Claudette]

The problem is, Trump doesn't have the capacity to address the problem.

The trick to being president in times of trouble is the ability to show empathy. Obama, Bush, Clinton all knew how to do this. (See, I'm going to say nice things about George W., who doesn't seem so bad in comparison).

Trump doesn't have that capacity. To him, Covid is something that is bad happening to him, not all the people who died, got sick or lost their jobs.

COVID is the defining moment of his presidency

Most Presidents would have excelled. Think of Bush after 9-11. He rallied the nation and got bipartisan support to fight terrorism.
Trump has been divisive, pit one side against the other, turn protective measures into a political statement.

It is costing him the election

Most presidents would have done exactly what Trump did. Covid doesn't define Trump. It defines China and their lack of control.

9-11 is a far cry from a pandemic.

Trump hasn't been divisive and he sure hasn't tried to pit one side against the other. Hell he tried to ban Chinese flights into the US and you Dem idiots called him a racist. Talk about divisive.

None of his protective measures were turned into political statements. That's what you Dems have done. You've turned this pandemic into a political statement.

It will cost Biden the election

No
Nobody else from either party would have responded like Trump

Denial, Misinformation, undermining his governors, mocking social distancing

People stopped blaming China months ago. Once it hit our shores, it was Trumps responsibility

Hey. Whatever floats your boat. Trump was called a racist by you Dem idiots when he wanted to ban flights from China. Once it hit our shores it was everyone's responsibility.

Trump declared Mission Accomplished once he banned flights from China. Those 15 cases grew to over 3 million.

Guess what?
Travelers from Wuhan are welcome around the world, travelers from the US are not

Are you sure of that. Wuhan is where the pandemic started. I doubt anyone from there is welcome anywhere.

I doubt any countries who have Covid victims are welcome anywhere. Your point is idiotic.

China shut down Wuhan completely. They mandated stay at home orders and enforced them

Trump has blown off the threat of the TRUMPvirus, told everyone it is no worse than the flu, mocked those who wear masks.

Wuhan is now clear, the US is not

If they enforced them then how did Covid get around the world??

I'd say you are full of shit and I'm sure China would tell everyone Wuhan is clear but anyone who believes that is a fool.

The US and many other countries aren't clear.

Catch a clue dumbass.