If Obama won't prosecute CIA torture, can the ICC?

[buddhallah_the_christ]

The International Criminal Court quietly revealed in a recent report that it was inching toward its first-ever investigation into the alleged torture of U.S. detainees in Afghanistan. That update — which came two weeks ago, just as the White House was bracing itself for the release of Senate findings on CIA torture — seemed to send a message: If the Obama administration continues to rule out prosecuting CIA torturers, the ICC could take action.

If Obama won x27 t prosecute CIA torture can the ICC Al Jazeera America

 

[CowboyTed]

As I believe the US did not sign on to the International Criminal Court

 

[RetiredGySgt]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

 

[AvgGuyIA]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

Are you counting on Obama?

 

[CowboyTed]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

Are you counting on Obama?

Every American counts, The US signed but has not ratified.

So Americans can't be convicted of a war crime under the ICC.

 

[georgephillip]

"A UN expert on human rights has repeated his call for the US to live up to its international legal obligations and prosecute senior officials who authorised the use of torture.

"Ben Emmerson, the UN special rapporteur on human rights and counter-terrorism, said Eric Holder, the US attorney general, is under an international obligation to reopen inquiries into senior officials alleged to have breached human rights.

"Asked whether George W Bush should be prosecuted, Emmerson told the BBC Radio 4 Today programme that as a head of state he enjoyed special immunity, but other senior officials should face charges."

CIA torture report sparks renewed calls to prosecute senior US officials US news The Guardian

 

[Lakhota]

Obama protects the Bush mobsters.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Real situations and cases: compare:

Situations and cases
21 cases in 9 situations have been brought before the International Criminal Court.
Situations and cases

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Good gawd: how many of the detainees were water boarded? There's a threshold to be met and it isn't here. Stop the presses! stop the hysteria!

Crimes against humanity, as defined by the Rome Statute of the International Criminal Court Explanatory Memorandum, "are particularly odious offences in that they constitute a serious attack on human dignity or grave humiliation or a degradation of human beings."[1] They are not isolated or sporadic events, but are part either of a government policy (although the perpetrators need not identify themselves with this policy) or of a wide practice of atrocities tolerated or condoned by a government or a de facto authority. Murder; massacres; dehumanization; extermination; human experimentation; extrajudicial punishments; military use of children; kidnappings; unjust imprisonment; slavery; cannibalism, torture; rape; political, racial, or religious persecution; and other inhumane acts reach the threshold of crimes against humanity only if they are part of a widespread or systematic practice. Isolated inhumane acts of this nature may instead constitute grave infringements of human rights, or — depending on the circumstances — war crimes, but are not classified as crimes against humanity
Crimes against humanity - Wikipedia the free encyclopedia​

Who are these people who belittle actual Crimes Against Humanity by considering the alleged torture of a small number of terrorists and others as crimes against humanity?

It's embarrassing as a Liberal to read a letter to the editor in the LATimes from a former ACLU leader stating this preposterous line of reasoning.

CIA torturers served their country poorly - LA Times
Stephen Rohde Los Angeles - chairman emeritus of the ACLU Foundation of Southern California.

Crimes against humanity used to be Idi Amin/Uganda - here we go: Situations and cases

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Don't get me wrong I think Cheney is a dick and John Yoo is a jerk, but crimes against humanity? Jesus christ!

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

calm down Mary

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

The International Criminal Court quietly revealed in a recent report that it was inching toward its first-ever investigation into the alleged torture of U.S. detainees in Afghanistan. That update — which came two weeks ago, just as the White House was bracing itself for the release of Senate findings on CIA torture — seemed to send a message: If the Obama administration continues to rule out prosecuting CIA torturers, the ICC could take action.

If Obama won x27 t prosecute CIA torture can the ICC Al Jazeera America

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the political cartoon is as lame as it gets.

please...

 

[Freewill]

Blah blah blah. The UN said the same thing about the drone program and they did NOTHING and we killed many innocents even 16 year old Americans without due process and without them doing one thing wrong. Yet crickets chirping.

Here read:
http://www.amnesty.org/en/library/a...b54-47b3-b3fe-a72c9169e487/asa330132013en.pdf

 

[georgephillip]

Obama protects the Bush mobsters.

Gangsters have ruled this world for thousands of years before Bush or Obama, primarily through applications of war and debt. Both could be taxed into extinction if they weren't making mobsters around the globe filthy rich.

 

[buddhallah_the_christ]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

HMM
So, does the US have authority over Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine?
Does the US has a right to sentence Saddam and Gaddafi to death?
Is it the essence of american exceptionalism?

 

[georgephillip]

Is it the essence of american exceptionalism

World peace depends on it

 

[RetiredGySgt]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

HMM
So, does the US have authority over Iraq, Syria, Libya, Ukraine?
Does the US has a right to sentence Saddam and Gaddafi to death?
Is it the essence of american exceptionalism?

Nations are not individuals, when they make war the strongest decides the fate of the weaker. If the UN wants to try our people let them wage a war and defeat us. Ohh wait, the UN has no troops and most member States would never support a war with troops against the US. So guess what? The UN can go pound sand.

 

[suplex3000]

Is it the essence of american exceptionalism

World peace depends on it

Come on, babe
Please tell me about peace in the Middle east, in Ukraine
Could you explain how it works in detail?
Fighting for peace is like raping for virginity

 

[ninja007]

dripping water on a suspected terrorist is torture. Sucking out an innocent babies brain and body parts with a vacuum is OK to liberals. WOW.

 

[Claudette]

Is it the essence of american exceptionalism

World peace depends on it

Come on, babe
Please tell me about peace in the Middle east, in Ukraine
Could you explain how it works in detail?
Fighting for peace is like raping for virginity

LOL Ya gotta understand Babe thinks slavery and war are the same thing.

He thinks slavery has been abolished not realizing slavery is alive and well in parts of the world.

He also thinks that there will be a world with no wars being fought. Of course he ignores the fact that wars are fought all over the world and always will be.

He stupidly thinks we will have world peace someday and that waterboarding some dirtbag is a deterrent to world peace.

He truly is an idiot.

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

They have no authority over the US. And any attempt by a State to detain or hold Americans to try in that Court would be an act of war.

Are you counting on Obama?

Every American counts, The US signed but has not ratified.

So Americans can't be convicted of a war crime under the ICC.

Any more than Republicans can repeal ACA with Obama in office. Going after the CIA is purely symbolic in nature with no real authority to back it up.