If Obama stays pat, he's won the "Fiscal Cliff" battle.

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    And he may get what he wants in terms of the debt ceiling as well.

    At this point, there is almost no upside to dealing with Republicans. Actually..there is none.

    Once the Fiscal Cliff is done, so are they. They will lose the house in 2014.

    Obama gets to sunset the Bush Tax cuts..and get the Defense cuts that were necessary to balance the budget. And he's got a great deal of leverage..since he can soften those.

    Well played.

    Personally..I didn't see this when the sequester deal was done.
     
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    We have to get serious about the National Debt, we need more spending cuts too. I think everyone should scarifice, rich, poor and in-between.
     
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    America voted for the massive shitstorm of taxation and healthcare costs that is about to rain down on them.

    Let if fly.
     
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    Balance the budget?

    Mwahahahahaha!!

    The debt will easily be around $25 trillion by 2020. Both GOP and democrats be damned. Personally, I would be glad to see Boehner and company go. The GOP is currently run by idiots.

    Then in 2016 Hillary will be the appointed one to replace Barak.
     
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    I always love the "Let it burn!" sentiment from some conservatives. Like when Rush said he hoped Obama would fail despite what it would do to the country.

    :clap2::clap2::clap2:
     
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    It's well-played if you have broccoli for brains.. Someone has to explain to thinking folks why the Bush Tax Cuts were "what got us into this mess" ------ but the card on the table is to PRESERVE the bulk of the Bush Tax Cuts so that the middle class is not held hostage. The only diff between the gosh-awful Bush cuts and what the infant Prez has been incessantly whining for is a meaningless 2% diff for the top 1%.

    It's like whining because your parents won't buy you a double scoop, so you get dragged screaming out of the ice cream store with NOTHING. Same magnitude of importance to the rest of your life.

    NOTHING has meaning in this Mexican stand-off ---- unless you're the Mad Hatter.

    Just the fact that EVERY OPPORTUNITY since the election --- all you hear from Dear Leader is about "the rich".. There is no plan. The King has no clothes or tools.
     
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    No, because he'll keep spending and the debt will climb above 20 trillion by the time he leaves.
     
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    All that needs to be done is declare that the rich should "pay their fair share". The rhetoric really works.
     
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    Conservatives have never had a voice in government.

    So yes, let the system burn.
     
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    Yep! They get no sympathy from me!
     

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