If Brexit Why Not Texit? Will Britain’s American Children Follow The Mother Country’s Populism?

[NYcarbineer]

Conservative states seceding?

Should be called 'Neckxit.'

 

[MaryL]

... IF Spaniards want Texas or Mexico, cool. It's all yours......

No, it's not.

Yes, yes it is. That's what all this adds up to.

 

[Unkotare]

... IF Spaniards want Texas or Mexico, cool. It's all yours......

No, it's not.

Yes, yes it is. That's what all this adds up to.

Spain didn't even want to stick around when they were chased out of the hemisphere, moron.

 

[oreo]

A mural on a derelict building in Stokes Croft shows U.S. presidential hopeful Donald Trump sharing a kiss with former London Mayor Boris Johnson, one of the biggest names leading the Brexit campaign.

The shouts of defiance that shaped the Brexit victory may carry across the Atlantic, with implications for Donald Trump and the U.S.

WASHINGTON — The United Kingdom and the United States are not one country, nor do they beat with one political heart.

But the two empires — one faded, the other holding on — share a centuries-long history and a common imperial culture in which the ideal of “white man’s burden” — toquote Rudyard Kipling — is a privileged inheritance and a sacred identity.

The pro-Brexit vote in the U.K. is a cry of defiance by what’s left of that Anglo-American white tribal faith, and the decision to leave the European Union should send a shudder through those who think that Donald Trump is a xenophobic, racist nationalist with no chance to win the U.S. presidency.

A glance at the U.K. referendum results show that Brexit won handily in England, especially in the rural, traditional towns and cities least dominated by immigrant cultural and globalism.

Brexit also won in Wales, which in many ways historically is the home of some of the most ancient religious and cultural traditions of old Britain — going back before the Norman Conquest.

Wales and rural England were the rallying grounds of Oliver Cromwell’s assault on the continentally oriented 17th-century kings, and those regions rose up in a nativist way now.

The parallel to the U.S. is obvious — and ominous if you worry that Trump could somehow find his way to the White House.

Trump is riding the same tide of anti-globalism that propelled the likes of Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage in the U.K.: against waves of immigrants, against global corporate dominance of trade, against Muslim claims that terrorism is not intrinsically part of their religion, against the control of power by internationalist intellect and capital.

His greatest appeal so far is not only in traditionally Republican states in the South and Mountain regions, but potentially in states such as Pennsylvania – where the immigrant population is relatively low and there remains a fealty to the old ways. Former British subjects rebelled, to be sure, but they nevertheless followed the old country’s ideas about law and politics and culture.

Trump, if he is anything substantive, is a scream of defiance by white America — married, traditional, commercial — against the new multicultural and global country and world.

Not surprisingly, Trump was for Brexit, more or less.

Not surprisingly, Johnson and Farage have had some nice things to say about Trump, while the now-humiliated Prime Minister David Cameron did not.

Scotland, which voted to stay in Europe, will now try to leave the U.K., and Scottish leaders who once praised The Donald for his investments in the Auld Sod now despise him.

The White Man’s Burden now has new meaning in the U.K. and in the U.S. It is the burden of defying history, which is moving in the direction of a multicultural, multiglobal identity for the entire human race on a beleaguered planet.

It seems increasingly possible that, come November, American voters may decide to join England and Wales in defiance.

Howard Fineman: Will Britain's American Children Follow The Mother Country's Populism?

Will this bring about renewed talk of secession from the United States? Texas comes to mind.

‘If Brexit Why Not Texit?’: Britain’s EU Referendum Inspires Texas Secession Leader

Unlike the UK our currency is not tied to Mexico or Canada. So financially we're not controlled by other countries as the UK was. The Muslim immigration problem in Europe has been going on for a couple of decades now. They have enormous populations of Muslims across Europe that have not situated well into European, western culture.

What we did witness today is a pounding of the pound. Whether this is going to tail spin the UK into a financial crisis--an economic crisis is unknown at this time. Frankly, I never understood why there was an EU in the first place? The below is the listed benefits of being a member of the European Union.

"The benefits is that one can live in any of the 27 EU member states. Can study in again in any of the 27 EU countries and don't have to pay international fees. You can retire in any EU member state if they wish so. You can travel across Europe without a passport and without being stopped at borders. Work in any again of the 27 countries. Same rights as the citizens of that country you choose to live in. Get same basic health care in that country. No problems with visa permits etc."

Unprecedented peace for 70 years on the European Continent A far higher standard of living for all its citizens Free trade and co-operation Political strength of a union of 500 million to compete economically and politically against US."

But this news is NOT going to elect the Chimpanzee, Donald Trump. There is not that much correlation between was has been happening in the UK to the United States.

This will go completely unnoticed by the majority in the U.S.

 

[HenryBHough]

Elect the Chimpanzee? Been asleep for 7.5 years? His term is about over and He can't run - though this IS post-constitutional America.

Other countries may choose to tie their currencies to Britain's just as some several tie them to - or actually use - American Dollars. Yes, the pound dropped but only by about 1/2 as much as I had expected.

I'm intrigued by whether Monday will show a little more slide or the beginning of a rally but would not find it at all surprising if, within 30-days, it's at a new 12-month high. Particularly if (your choice of) Germany, France or Spain has taken active steps toward in in/out referendum. Even the gathering of a generous number of signatures toward that end will put ice skates on The Euro.

 

[oreo]

Elect the Chimpanzee? Been asleep for 7.5 years? His term is about over and He can't run - though this IS post-constitutional America.

Other countries may choose to tie their currencies to Britain's just as some several tie them to - or actually use - American Dollars. Yes, the pound dropped but only by about 1/2 as much as I had expected.

I'm intrigued by whether Monday will show a little more slide or the beginning of a rally but would not find it at all surprising if, within 30-days, it's at a new 12-month high. Particularly if (your choice of) Germany, France or Spain has taken active steps toward in in/out referendum. Even the gathering of a generous number of signatures toward that end will put ice skates on The Euro.

I don't think so, I think it's going to get worse before it gets better. This isn't a one day drop. We may see a few dead cat bounces only to come back down to a lower price. Their economy was based around the EU--since 1973--and it's going to hurt. At the same time government spending will have to increase to cover costs of securing the border, obviously something that hasn't been done since 1973. Those British citizens that are living off of other European Union member nations dimes will be sent back to the UK to forge for themselves.

It's going to be very interesting to watch what happens. However trying to associate this with a Donald Trump win is a real stretch. The United States formed no Union with any other country, let alone 27 of them as is represented by the European Union.

 

[HenryBHough]

I don't disagree that there will be highs and lows. Some of the expense of security, now that The EU has announced it will no longer pay much mind to that, will be daunting. However the elimination of the "tribute" extracted each month by The EU will cover that. As deportation of some of the forcibly imposed immigrants kicks in welfare and medical costs will lower. True, not dramatically, but the improved business climate (provided The Brits don't elect a Labour government and go mad nationalizing things) will certainly help.

It won't be an easy row to hoe but consider the first slaves who Lincoln freed. They didn't have it easy but many made something great of themselves. Let's hope the ordinary Brits have as much on the ball.

But we shall see.

 

[Two Thumbs]

It would be nice to see the rise of city-states across the country.

It would be friggin great to not have such a heavy tax burden to keep them afloat.

 

[Lakhota]

Texass should go for it.

 

[HenryBHough]

It would be nice to see the rise of city-states across the country.

It would be friggin great to not have such a heavy tax burden to keep them afloat.

Fun to watch, certainly.

Problem with city-states, though, is they tend to finance bread and circuses by plundering other city-states. Like Washington, D.C........

 

[Lakhota]

Go Texass!!!!!

 

[Lakhota]

Go Texass!!!!!