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QUOTE="Cecilie1200, post: 21234746, member: 14617"]
-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
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Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.

"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.[/QUOTE]
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Cry me a river for lazy people who don't go to doctors and then blame society.
 
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?
Yes, my wife IS American.
does she live here? Likely the woman would die of cancer. not sure how that's on anyone but her lousy luck. My wife's sister died of cancer.

My mom and dad both died of dementia.
No we live in Europe now. By the way, as you undoubtedly know time does have a big impact of the survive-ability of cancer. The earlier you diagnose the better your chances. The woman in question did NOT get the test until she felt something to be really wrong. This for no better reason that she couldn't really afford it.
stop it!!!
 
-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

I dunno about Belgium, but if you're submitting to that level of taxes, you're nuts. If you think your healthcare is "affordable" despite paying that level of taxes, you're beyond nuts.

You misunderstand what we're saying. The issue here isn't whether we're paying out of pocket or through taxes; the issue is that OTHER people aren't paying through taxes OR out of their own pockets. When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare.

Hence my statement that leftists don't think they have "access to healthcare" if they're in any way having to pay for it themselves, rather than having someone else pony up.
 
-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.

"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.
My point was that financial means is something that excludes people from getting proper care. Something you denied, and something I have personal experience to the contrary in. It's also something that as far as I now only happens in ONE first world country.... yours.
no it isn't, poor life style does that. what one eats, what one does, what one doesn't do. it's so many things. you just hate americans doctors and the people.
Ah, getting sick is a something people do to themselves? Getting hit by a car is a choice? As for me hating Americans, I married one and my daughter has dual nationality. What I hate is the mechanisms that makes people believe without question. It makes them claim stuff like "being healthy is a personal choice". Even if they are intelligent, their personal beliefs makes them irrational. Irrational people are dangerous.
 
And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

I dunno about Belgium, but if you're submitting to that level of taxes, you're nuts. If you think your healthcare is "affordable" despite paying that level of taxes, you're beyond nuts.

You misunderstand what we're saying. The issue here isn't whether we're paying out of pocket or through taxes; the issue is that OTHER people aren't paying through taxes OR out of their own pockets. When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare.

Hence my statement that leftists don't think they have "access to healthcare" if they're in any way having to pay for it themselves, rather than having someone else pony up.
The AVERAGE healthcare cost in Belgium is about half yours. This means out of pocket PLUS taxes. As a percentage of GDP the difference is less pronounced but still 50 percent.
How does health spending in the U.S. compare to other countries? - Peterson-Kaiser Health System Tracker
50 percent cheaper is affordable isn't it?
 
-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.

"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.
My brother in law also got immediate care. What he didn't get was ALL the care required to reverse the damage.
 
And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

I dunno about Belgium, but if you're submitting to that level of taxes, you're nuts. If you think your healthcare is "affordable" despite paying that level of taxes, you're beyond nuts.

You misunderstand what we're saying. The issue here isn't whether we're paying out of pocket or through taxes; the issue is that OTHER people aren't paying through taxes OR out of their own pockets. When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare.

Hence my statement that leftists don't think they have "access to healthcare" if they're in any way having to pay for it themselves, rather than having someone else pony up.
You kind of contradicted yourself."When leftists blather about wanting to raise taxes so that "everyone has access to high quality healthcare", what they're saying is that they want ME to pay for THEIR healthcare."
If someone says he wants to raise taxes does that NOT include the entire population? Or are you claiming that Democrats only want to raise taxes on the political opponents?
 
A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!

The earth's population is 7,000,000,000

Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth

So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.

But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.

Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending

$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.

Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?

Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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The whole thing is based on a straw man.
Straw men, bald assertions, false premises, manufactured bullshit. A whole boatload of TardLogic™.
 
And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

REALLY? How come your brother was wandering around with absolutely no provisions made for the possibility - likelihood, even - of needing medical care at some point in his life? Is he mentally challenged in some way? What prevented him from knowing what any sane, rational adult knows: that human bodies get sick and injured?

Ditto your wife's mother's friend.

And how come NONE of these people have heard of Medicaid or Medicare, if they really are incapable of providing for themselves? Do they live under rocks? How is it that you are apparently surrounded by utterly helpless, none-too-bright people who don't plan for their own personal care?
 
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

REALLY? How come your brother was wandering around with absolutely no provisions made for the possibility - likelihood, even - of needing medical care at some point in his life? Is he mentally challenged in some way? What prevented him from knowing what any sane, rational adult knows: that human bodies get sick and injured?

Ditto your wife's mother's friend.

And how come NONE of these people have heard of Medicaid or Medicare, if they really are incapable of providing for themselves? Do they live under rocks? How is it that you are apparently surrounded by utterly helpless, none-too-bright people who don't plan for their own personal care?
Not everyone can afford the very high cost of health insurance. How do you not know this?

Thanks to Trump, the cost of health care has skyrocketed to all new heights.
 
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.

Cancer is a disease that has TONS of assistance programs available to help with screening and treatment, because so many people get it. My God, just call any cancer-related charity and they'll provide you with a list of references.
 
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.

Cancer is a disease that has TONS of assistance programs available to help with screening and treatment, because so many people get it. My God, just call any cancer-related charity and they'll provide you with a list of references.
I hope you get cancer.
 
Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?
another fker commenting on my country that doesn't live here. fork off.
Oh boohoo. I'm sorry that someone who has a means of comparing what you claim to be the truth to actual reality inconveniences what you believe to be true. Deal with it.

Oh, boohoo. I'm sorry that someone lied to you that your anecdotes comprise "actual reality". The fact that you apparently know a lot of gormless nitwits who don't make plans for the inevitable doesn't mean that's reality for most people, or that it needs to be reality for anyone. Deal with it.
 
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".
Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?
another fker commenting on my country that doesn't live here. fork off.
Oh boohoo. I'm sorry that someone who has a means of comparing what you claim to be the truth to actual reality inconveniences what you believe to be true. Deal with it.

Oh, boohoo. I'm sorry that someone lied to you that your anecdotes comprise "actual reality". The fact that you apparently know a lot of gormless nitwits who don't make plans for the inevitable doesn't mean that's reality for most people, or that it needs to be reality for anyone. Deal with it.
Now I REALLY hope you get cancer.
 
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?
Yes, my wife IS American.

Is she IN America?
 
doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.
Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.
that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.
REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.
in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.
My point was that financial means is something that excludes people from getting proper care. Something you denied, and something I have personal experience to the contrary in. It's also something that as far as I now only happens in ONE first world country.... yours.

No, your point is that you assume your "personal experience" is somehow indicative of wider reality, rather than being indicative of a certain sort of person you appear to associate with.

In blunt terms, just because you know a lot of people who don't take personal responsibility doesn't mean everyone is like that, or needs to be like that.
 
Some shit that isn't made up: This Is the No. 1 Reason Americans File for Bankruptcy

According to the Kaiser Family Foundation (KFF), more than a quarter of U.S. adults struggle to pay their medical bills. This includes folks who have insurance, whether independently or through an employer. In fact, medical debt is the No. 1 source of personal bankruptcy filings in the U.S., and in 2014, an estimated 40% of Americans racked up debt resulting from a medical issue.
 
More shit that isn't made up: Top 5 Reasons Why People Go Bankrupt

Medical Expenses
A study done at Harvard University indicates that this is the biggest cause of bankruptcy, representing 62% of all personal bankruptcies. One of the interesting caveats of this study shows that 78% of filers had some form of health insurance, thus bucking the myth that medical bills affect only the uninsured.
 

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