I know, I know, this has been around...and it maybe made up ...but IT is still VALID!

[jc456]

A growing number of really uninformed students are declaring Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. are correct regarding socialism and how we should rob the rich and deliver to the poor.
OK... two examples both of which may be fiction but still present the truth!

The earth's population is 7,000,000,000

Total wealth of the world after deducting all liabilities: $280,000,000,000,000
Richest 1% now owns half the world's wealth

So if progressives/socialists/Democrats had their way, we divide the wealth of the world and each of us would have $36,364... one time right.
They would see that as fair. Right.

But wait...A large proportion of the population in developing countries live on under $1 or $2 per day
Standard of Living in the Developing World | GiveWell
So these people given $36,364 to live on would last...50 years.

Average American spent in 2017 $100 per day in living.
Gallup Daily: U.S. Consumer Spending

$36,364/$100 per day means.. that would last 1 year.

Hmmm... wonder how many of the progressives/socialists/Democrats would be around?

Now this example really strikes home.
And I defy any Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter to prove this is wrong. That if we all decided not to do better than the next person... where would we be?
Oh and remember there is only one leader in the below. Right?
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The whole thing is based on a straw man.

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

 

[The VOR]

Newsflash...when you post something that "may be made up" it is by definition...NOT valid

Things that are made up are always valid in nutterville. Think alternative facts.

They just have no concept of reality.

 

[rightwinger]

We need to abandon supply side economic theories once and for all

Give money to the wealthy and they will just keep it

Our society used to indulge in grand projects .....build roads, help the poor.....put a man on the moon

Now, we run on austerity while our wealthy become richer

 

[jc456]

Newsflash...when you post something that "may be made up" it is by definition...NOT valid

Things that are made up are always valid in nutterville. Think alternative facts.

They just have no concept of reality.

fk dude, we have wasted millions on a made up witch hunt with Robert Mueller. You are fine with that. funny shit dude.

 

[Cecilie1200]

The whole thing is based on a straw man.

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

 

[forkup]

The whole thing is based on a straw man.

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

 

[jc456]

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

that is it in a fking nutshell.

 

[jc456]

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

 

[forkup]

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

 

[jc456]

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

another fker commenting on my country that doesn't live here. fork off.

 

[forkup]

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

 

[jc456]

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.

 

[forkup]

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

another fker commenting on my country that doesn't live here. fork off.

Oh boohoo. I'm sorry that someone who has a means of comparing what you claim to be the truth to actual reality inconveniences what you believe to be true. Deal with it.

 

[forkup]

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

Yes, my wife IS American.

 

[jc456]

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Leftists consider having to pay for stuff themselves to be "not having access".

Not at all. If my taxes pay for it I DO pay. I live in Belgium, a country that has a tax rate that would make you blanch. On the other hand I have affordable ( not free) healthcare for half of the price. Why is it that all you Republicans constantly claim that only paying out of pocket constitutes paying?

another fker commenting on my country that doesn't live here. fork off.

Oh boohoo. I'm sorry that someone who has a means of comparing what you claim to be the truth to actual reality inconveniences what you believe to be true. Deal with it.

take care of Belgium buddy!!!

 

[jc456]

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

Yes, my wife IS American.

does she live here? Likely the woman would die of cancer. not sure how that's on anyone but her lousy luck. My wife's sister died of cancer.

My mom and dad both died of dementia.

 

[forkup]

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.

My point was that financial means is something that excludes people from getting proper care. Something you denied, and something I have personal experience to the contrary in. It's also something that as far as I now only happens in ONE first world country.... yours.

 

[Cecilie1200]

What "whole thing" is based on a "an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument." i.e. "straw man"?
Is is the "socialism" of Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders, et.al. supporter, or is the whole thing my two examples?

-Yours is. Find me one time..... one single time that Obama/Ocasio-Cortez/Sanders suggested that ALL people should get an equal wage? The proposition the two latter give is that the rich pay a proportional higher amount in taxes to make SOME basic services available to all Americans. Obama does the same in a lesser amount. This is NOT the same as suggesting that everybody gets the same amount of money. So a strawman.
- Not for nothing nearly all countries in the world have a system were part of the money people make is taken by the government to be redistributed to the population to provide services in one way or another. The basic disagreement is what for,where, and how much money the government takes. You made it about something else altogether.

And their "one" basic service is "Medicare for all"
How many times do I have to point out to idiots like you and them THERE NEVER were 46 million uninsured Americans as Obama stated and idiots like you believe!
YET we hear/read this screaming for "Medicare for All"! We are talking about less than 5 million people that WANT and need health insurance! NOT 46 million!
View attachment 229946

Oh and btw.46 Million Uninsured: A Look Behind The Number
https://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf
The fact that some people in the US, the richest country in the world does NOT balk at having citizens incapable of having access to high quality healthcare is something that to me is baffling.

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

Oh, bullshit. My 23-year-old son had to go to urgent care for an ear infection, and didn't have the insurance card to take with him. They went ahead and treated him, sent me a bill to submit to the insurance, AND signed him up for Medicaid as a backup, just in case.

"Choice between eating and getting care", my ass.

 

[jc456]

doctors are available to all. you are in error.

you mean you want free doctors.

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

BTW, how is that the doctor's concern. Your brother should look into his own next steps.

The lady only had to go to a doctor. That's sad. There are so many places she could have gone. Likely she was going to die due to cancer.

My point was that financial means is something that excludes people from getting proper care. Something you denied, and something I have personal experience to the contrary in. It's also something that as far as I now only happens in ONE first world country.... yours.

no it isn't, poor life style does that. what one eats, what one does, what one doesn't do. it's so many things. you just hate americans doctors and the people.

 

[forkup]

Insufficient financial means is just as capable of stopping someone from getting care. I have friends and family who've had this experience. For some people it is a choice between eating and getting care, denying it does NOT change the truth of that.

that's pure bullshit. not in this country. anyone can get access to a doctor. almost anytime.

REALLY? My brother in law got hit by a car without insurance. This meant that the ER did nothing more then stabilizing his shattered shoulder before they send him on his way. He couldn't afford the reconstructive surgery required and as a result has now less then 50 percent mobility in that arm. The mother of a friend of my wife likely died because she couldn't afford going to the doctor and have the test that would have diagnosed her cancer. That's 2 examples in my wide circle.

in the US?

Yes, my wife IS American.

does she live here? Likely the woman would die of cancer. not sure how that's on anyone but her lousy luck. My wife's sister died of cancer.

My mom and dad both died of dementia.

No we live in Europe now. By the way, as you undoubtedly know time does have a big impact of the survive-ability of cancer. The earlier you diagnose the better your chances. The woman in question did NOT get the test until she felt something to be really wrong. This for no better reason that she couldn't really afford it.