I have a question for the President.

[HenryBHough]

That a wannabe dictator sucks up to an actual dictator you find that somehow surprising?

Yeah.

Right.

 

[Disir]

Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world and one of the highest literacy rates.

Your intention of going into Cuba is simply to force them into what you view as libertopia.

Are you suggesting that Cuba would be better off without diplomatic relations with the United States? Are you suggesting that we should continue to hold Cuba at arms length for their own good?

Are you suggesting freedom=capitalism?

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

i don't see anything wrong with Cuba being our sugar plantation. Saudi Arabia is/ was our gas station. They'll get paid for the sugar just like Saudi got billions for their oil.

Of course you don't. You have zero interest in either place.

 

[Nosmo King]

Freedom to travel. Freedom to earn a living. Freedom to access due process under law.

Do you believe that the Cuban people live under some weird form of Jeffersonian democracy, or do you think the system in Cuba is, in fact, a repressive system?

Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world and one of the highest literacy rates.

Your intention of going into Cuba is simply to force them into what you view as libertopia.

Are you suggesting that Cuba would be better off without diplomatic relations with the United States? Are you suggesting that we should continue to hold Cuba at arms length for their own good?

Are you suggesting freedom=capitalism?

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

If the Mariel Boatlift of the mid 1980s did not show oppression, if the tribulations of Cuban athletes trying to defect does not show oppression, I'm not sure you fully understand what 'oppression' means.

 

[HenryBHough]

The original premise cannot be fulfilled until America has a president to ask.

 

[Siete]

life is so good in Cuba .. ^^^^^^^ that's really ISIS carrying EBOLA ... lol


removing the sanctions might just slow refugee traffic down some .... RW's can't have that. They wouldn't have anything to carp about ..

 

[NLT]

I think the embargo of cuba is stupid, we trade with china and they are communists as well.

 

[Disir]

Cuba has one of the best health care systems in the world and one of the highest literacy rates.

Your intention of going into Cuba is simply to force them into what you view as libertopia.

Are you suggesting that Cuba would be better off without diplomatic relations with the United States? Are you suggesting that we should continue to hold Cuba at arms length for their own good?

Are you suggesting freedom=capitalism?

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

If the Mariel Boatlift of the mid 1980s did not show oppression, if the tribulations of Cuban athletes trying to defect does not show oppression, I'm not sure you fully understand what 'oppression' means.

The boatlift organized by the Battista folk? The point where Castro said, if you want to leave go ahead?
Or the part where he put mentally ill folk on the boat?

Cuban athletes that want to get paid a million dollars and Cuba can't pay them a million dollars?

 

[deltex1]

Are you suggesting that Cuba would be better off without diplomatic relations with the United States? Are you suggesting that we should continue to hold Cuba at arms length for their own good?

Are you suggesting freedom=capitalism?

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

i don't see anything wrong with Cuba being our sugar plantation. Saudi Arabia is/ was our gas station. They'll get paid for the sugar just like Saudi got billions for their oil.

Of course you don't. You have zero interest in either place.

Tell me what my interest should be Dearie...otherwise I shan't be able to sleep tonight...

 

[Disir]

Are you suggesting freedom=capitalism?

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

i don't see anything wrong with Cuba being our sugar plantation. Saudi Arabia is/ was our gas station. They'll get paid for the sugar just like Saudi got billions for their oil.

Of course you don't. You have zero interest in either place.

Tell me what my interest should be Dearie...otherwise I shan't be able to sleep tonight...

My telling you is not going to help you develop ethics.

 

[deltex1]

I'm suggesting freedom =freedom. Whether the Cubans want to impart a measure of Socialism in the American mold or the European mold, it makes little difference. Freedom comes from being released from oppression.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

i don't see anything wrong with Cuba being our sugar plantation. Saudi Arabia is/ was our gas station. They'll get paid for the sugar just like Saudi got billions for their oil.

Of course you don't. You have zero interest in either place.

Tell me what my interest should be Dearie...otherwise I shan't be able to sleep tonight...

My telling you is not going to help you develop ethics.

Maybe if you tell me it will pique my interest in ethics....

 

[Kosh]

So now the Conservative JFK is at fault now for poor policy making over Cuba, but not for the bay of pigs debacle, interesting how the far left will rewrite history to suit their own needs..

The problem you have in situations where the government has absolute control over everything is sanctions only hurt the people and not the dictator in charge. They can conjure the propaganda that shows it is the fault of the US and never have to accept any responsibility (much like the far left does here).

Dictator Castro lives on, even it did not start with the current person in power.

The question is will Cuba be willing to cut all ties with mother Russia to appease the US?

Will they be willing to give up their far left utopia and become more like the US?

 

[Disir]

Deltex, go to Cuba. Fly out of Canada.

Yet, you can't accurately show me oppression.

I understand that a lot of people are scared of this island. They are really angry that the mob got kicked out to begin with. But, if you listen to the interviews with Castro he will tell you that they went in with a huge list of items to be accomplished and many of them were accomplished and many of them were not and some were flat out naive.

Castro has said that at the time of the revolution they believed in Communism and that the Soviet Union was all about brotherly love and what they found out was that the Soviet Union really wanted was Cuba to be a sugar plantation.

Incidentally, that is exactly what the US wants.

Thus far, people have demonstrated that they are upset with Cuba because Cuba doesn't want to be exploited.

Something about each nation-state being sovereign.

So, we can cut the shit on spreading democracy. Clearly we do not.

i don't see anything wrong with Cuba being our sugar plantation. Saudi Arabia is/ was our gas station. They'll get paid for the sugar just like Saudi got billions for their oil.

Of course you don't. You have zero interest in either place.

Tell me what my interest should be Dearie...otherwise I shan't be able to sleep tonight...

My telling you is not going to help you develop ethics.

Maybe if you tell me it will pique my interest in ethics....

Go to Cuba, Deltex.

 

[deltex1]

One of my racquetball buddies will fly me there as soon as clearance is available.

 

[Disir]

Do this before major changes occur.

 

[blastoff]

Heard a radio caller today who claimed to be Cuban-American make the following allegations. Whether he was legit and any of it's true I have no idea.

He noted that in spite of the US boycott of the place other European countries were carrying on normal business relations with Cuba, including investing in hotels and whatnot for the tourist trade. Cubans who work for these European companies have an interesting way of being paid. The companies pay the government the employees' wages in Euros. The government takes a healthy cut of their pay and then pays the workers the difference but in Cuban dollars rather than Euros.

He also claimed the entire government from the Castro brothers on down is a very racist lot when it comes to black Cubans. They're shunned in the job market for all but the most menial of jobs and the Communist party has nothing to do with them at all, claiming it's comprised of Cubans of white European heritage only.

Take it for what it's worth.

 

[boilermaker55]

The OP is hiding his hatred and bigotry behind a question that isn't a question.
How can anyone answer something that would be nothing but speculation.

You say that our policy toward Cuba over the last fifty years has failed. My question for you is: if that policy had worked what would Cuba look like today? Are the goals of your new policy exactly the same as the old policy? If so when will you tell us what steps you will take to reach these goals? Have those steps been defined? How are you going to break it to Raul and Fidel that our main goal is to remove them from power? Will you be as effective in Cuba as you have been in Syria?

If youre too busy to answer maybe the people on this board can fill in the blanks.

Have you sent it to the White House or are you too big of a pussy?

Let us know if your get an answer.

Asking people here to answer is idiotic as half of them are Teatards.

 

[deltex1]

The OP is hiding his hatred and bigotry behind a question that isn't a question.
How can anyone answer something that would be nothing but speculation.

You say that our policy toward Cuba over the last fifty years has failed. My question for you is: if that policy had worked what would Cuba look like today? Are the goals of your new policy exactly the same as the old policy? If so when will you tell us what steps you will take to reach these goals? Have those steps been defined? How are you going to break it to Raul and Fidel that our main goal is to remove them from power? Will you be as effective in Cuba as you have been in Syria?

If youre too busy to answer maybe the people on this board can fill in the blanks.

Have you sent it to the White House or are you too big of a pussy?

Let us know if your get an answer.

Asking people here to answer is idiotic as half of them are Teatards.

Get over it, Herman. If the president knows the policy failed, then he must know what a policy success would achieve. He must know what the failed policy was supposed to achieve. I asked a simple question. Answer it.

 

[guno]

 

[Disir]

Heard a radio caller today who claimed to be Cuban-American make the following allegations. Whether he was legit and any of it's true I have no idea.

He noted that in spite of the US boycott of the place other European countries were carrying on normal business relations with Cuba, including investing in hotels and whatnot for the tourist trade. Cubans who work for these European companies have an interesting way of being paid. The companies pay the government the employees' wages in Euros. The government takes a healthy cut of their pay and then pays the workers the difference but in Cuban dollars rather than Euros.

He also claimed the entire government from the Castro brothers on down is a very racist lot when it comes to black Cubans. They're shunned in the job market for all but the most menial of jobs and the Communist party has nothing to do with them at all, claiming it's comprised of Cubans of white European heritage only.

Take it for what it's worth.

Ya..........watch the Spanish in action with the Mexicans.

Racism is all over South, Central and North America and the Caribbean. The Dominican Republic is fantastically racist and mostly Anti-Haitian.

 

[boilermaker55]

Get over your simplistic comments. Of course, but you cannot get over when your fee are held to the fire.
It is nothing but foolish conjecture on your part.
SO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get over yourself.

The OP is hiding his hatred and bigotry behind a question that isn't a question.
How can anyone answer something that would be nothing but speculation.

You say that our policy toward Cuba over the last fifty years has failed. My question for you is: if that policy had worked what would Cuba look like today? Are the goals of your new policy exactly the same as the old policy? If so when will you tell us what steps you will take to reach these goals? Have those steps been defined? How are you going to break it to Raul and Fidel that our main goal is to remove them from power? Will you be as effective in Cuba as you have been in Syria?

If youre too busy to answer maybe the people on this board can fill in the blanks.

Have you sent it to the White House or are you too big of a pussy?

Let us know if your get an answer.

Asking people here to answer is idiotic as half of them are Teatards.

Get over it, Herman. If the president knows the policy failed, then he must know what a policy success would achieve. He must know what the failed policy was supposed to achieve. I asked a simple question. Answer it.