I guess the leftists better thank Dubya

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    {Something that looks an awful lot like democracy is beginning to take hold in Iraq. It may not be 'mission accomplished'—but it's a start.

    "Iraqi democracy will succeed," President George W. Bush declared in November 2003, "and that success will send forth the news from Damascus to Tehran that freedom can be the future of every nation." The audience at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington answered with hearty applause. Bush went on: "The establishment of a free Iraq at the heart of the Middle East will be a watershed event in the global democratic revolution."}

    A Democratic Iraq Is Emerging - Newsweek


    Well gawddamn - looks like Bush was 100% right.
     
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    Iraq was an illegal invasion of a sovereign nation based on fear, a contemporary moral comparison is the Russian invasion of Hungry during the cold war. Over a hundred thousand Iraqi men, woman, and children died. Over four thousand Americans died. Imagine the heartache of these deaths on all those families, and now calling, what will now be another Iran, a success is wrong headed imperial nonsense. Revolutions must come from inside as Russia and now Egypt prove so well.

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    "I repeat: the entire war and occupation are immoral. If you criticize the Bush administration on the grounds that it "bungled" the war, this leaves one, and only one, inevitable implication: if they had prosecuted the war and occupation "competently," then you would have no complaints whatsoever. That is: you think the invasion and occupation of Iraq were justified and moral. If that's what you actually think, you belong in the Bush camp. You're arguing over managerial style, and about issues that are entirely trivial."
     
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    fifty years ago generally isn't considered to be contemporary even if it were analogous to begin with.

    fail
     
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    midcan't does that a lot
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    I'm not interested in your Obama verses.

    The FACT is that Bush stated his intent, and it appears to be going just like he said. Look like the middle east IS exploding in a massive move to democratically elected and free nations.

    Put down your holy book, and THINK.
     
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    Saying something will happen, and then nearly 10 years later the first beginnings of a first step in taking a first step does not a fulfilled prophecy make.

    Here's one for ya: The US will be destroyed in nuclear war. It might not happen today, or tomorrow, or next year, but 500 years from now I'm going to look like a regular Nostradamus.
     
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    I understand your discomfort, Reagan caused the USSR to collapse, now Bush is bringing democracy to the middle east.

    Still, there is no denying that Bush openly claimed that establishing Iraq as a middle east democracy would drive nations throughout the region to rise up and demand what Iraq has.

    There is no denying that this is EXACTLY what is occurring.
     
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    The Invasion of Iraq was more than justified because Sadam wanted Iran to believe that he had WMD. He admitted this. He played a dangerous game and he lost.

    The Invasion itself was actually military genius. But damn, did they screw up the occupation.
     
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    i think we are still not certain whats happening in the ME right now will actually lead to democracy
     
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    You're an ass.
    I saw the subject line and thought little Dumbya had killed himself.
     

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