I Do Not Celebrate Thanksgiving

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    I am America, that is to say that I represent the notion that America is a melting pot. Like many of us, I am a mutt. Half of my family is Irish and British while the other half is German and Blackfoot Sioux. Out of respect for my heritage, I do not celebrate Thanksgiving, which angers the Irish side of my family.

    The argument always is, "why can't you just celebrate and be thankful for family and friends." To which I reply that "I am thankful everyday for my family and friends. But this day I cannot pretend that eating turkey and saying grace does not represent the slaughter of so many innocent men, women & children."

    I read the book “Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee” each year around this time. This year I watched the HBO movie of the same name. But I don’t think the holiday should be abolished. In fact, I understand why I experience hostility about my convictions. Accepting that one is part of a society that committed such a horrible atrocity is a hard pill to swallow. And so I have been attacked verbally; my beliefs ridiculed.

    Because America is a melting pot, we must consider the traditions of all Americans. This even includes the Anglo-Saxons who committed a holocaust against the indigenous people of this land. So throwing money at the problem in the form of reparations is not enough. In fact, it is counter-productive.

    My proposal is thus, we should make November a month of remembrance. We should teach our children about what really happened. We should restore dilapidated reservations. We must give land to descendants of Native Americans or low cost mortgages. We must make sure that the areas which are sacred - such as the Black Hills, are never subject to mining, logging or any other blasphemy.

    It is better to acknowledge a problem and then atone for it than to simply expect money to appease us like whores. This country has never done that. In fact, our lack of action points to a bigotry and sense of entitlement.

    Anyone who truly believes that Native American Indians are better off now should go check out a reservation. They don't all own a casino, and the ones that do don’t always spread that money around as they should.

    I think Thanksgiving has become commercial. Moreover, I think that it has become a soar spot for people who deserve to regain lost dignity. And anyone who tries to justify the holiday and the American attitude of suppressing the holocaust of Native American Indians is spitting in our faces. This isn't a matter of some savages getting shafted. This is a matter of men, women & children being brutally slaughtered, forced into poverty, and shunned for decades as rich investors raped the land that they held sacred.

    We do not need to retreat into bygone days. But we do need atonement.
     
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    So don't celebrate Thanksgiving. Who cares?
     
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    Or go live on a fucking reservation and pow-wow with the injuns and leave the rest of us alone. Ask Johnny Depp and Brad Pitt to go with you.
     
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    Atonement? Are you serious?

    Sounds like you've got some serious social issues.

    Maybe it would be better if you just put a period on it, and moved the fuck on.

    Just a suggestion.............:eusa_shhh:
     
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    I believe you have the right to feel anyway you want. If you wish to view history from a victims standpoint, that is your right. After all you are an American.

    I am a Native American. Meaning that I come from Texas. Am I an Indian? I have a drop or two of Cherokee from way, way, waaaaaaaaay back. Guess what, I also have British, Scot, and German blood as well.

    While you have the right to your beliefs, you don't have the right to attempt to impose them on others. You, personally, deserve nothing. Your tribe, today, deserves nothing. Your reservations are nothing more than breeding grounds for self pity.

    IF you were one of the original Indians conquered by the expanding USA then perhaps you would personally rate something. But, after generations of failing to assimilate into the culture, asking Me to personally atone for something I didn't do is ludicrous.

    Here is some heartfelt advice. Get off the reservation and become an American without leaning on a .gov crutch and holding a pity party every November. Instead of expecting people who did no harm to "atone", move beyond the victim mentality and set a positive example for your fellow Americans still unable or unwilling to get off the reservation and make something of themselves.

    Finally, since you are part German, are you sending in your "share" of reparations to Israel?

    I contend your position is untenable and is based on self pity and a lazy desire to benefit from the misfortunes of your ancestors.
     
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    In honour of the native Americans, we should change the name of the Washington Redskins to the Washington Brian-Dead Redneck Crackers.

    But we shouldn't change the Florida State Seminoles. That would be retarded.
     
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    Well, Native Americans care. The genocide of the tribal people by European settlers and early America is a blight on history. We must atone for what has happened, first by education about it and then by acknowledging it via a month of rememberance.
     
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    No. :eusa_snooty:
     
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    Social issues? No, I just want the truth at all times and most Americans cannot handle the truth. So you all live in denial of the genocide your forefathers carried out in the name of greed.
     
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    So you feel that educating our children about the truth of genocide in our own history is wrong? Stick with the cartoon version of the pilgrims? Sounds to me like you feel smug about the whole thing.

    I didn't say we should pay reparations. I stated that we should teach the truth and make November a month of rememberance. How does that impose on you again?
     

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