Taxpayers to Foot Kwanzaa Bill

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    A number of years ago, I used to work on Chevy's diversity advertising account, and I don't recall any part of the Kwanzaa activity (which was around Christmas) that had anything to do with religion.

    At least, that was the way it was explained to me by the Art Director and Copywriter who were responsible for developing the creative work - 2 great guys whose opinion I would readily accept.
     
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    And if whites wished to celebrate their culture?

    Hint: it would be called a Klan revival.
     
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    I can't see any reason they should have more than a 'parade' and the like. Even in Chicago that's all the Irish or Italians, or gays, etc. get.
     
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    I'm not sure what culture whites (as an ethnic group) have. I don't view myself as having that much in common with the French or Germans other than geographic proximity. Ask a Scot or Irishman what he has in common with an Englishman and I suspect you'd have to wait for the laughter to end before you get an answer.

    It's an interesting point you raise however. My avatar is the St. George's Cross - the national flag of England. By some people, this is viewed as religiously associated imagery, possibly because of historical links with Christianity and the Crusades of the 12th and 13th centuries. Others view it as aggressively nationalistic or racist, pehaps due to its adoption by football (soccer) fans and the hooligan baggage that that carries, or its use by the British National Party. It has also been - surprise, surprise - associated with the KKK.

    To me, it's a celebration of my heritage, to others a symbol of intolerance or persecution.

    In America, I guess the two primary celebrations of American heritage are Independence Day and Thanksgiving. But these are more about the heritage of the country than the heritage of Americans who happen to be white. As white Americans come from pretty much all over the place, I wonder what common link they have, other that their American-ness.
     
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    African Blacks have no common links other than skin color, You think there are a few nations in Europe, there are a LOT more tribes and clans in Africa and most like to KILL each other.

    If American Blacks are similar just because of skin color ( and nope slavery doesn't count it was done and over 150 years ago) then I guess American whites can celebrate something just because of skin color ( ohh and there are numerous "white" American groups that were slaves as well) And of course where is that National Chinese holiday they were abused after slavery passed.
     
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    the initial post in this thread asked a question. I think it has been answered.
     
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    But most African Americans don't kill each other because one was from Ghana and the other Zimbabwe, or whatever. Many have found cultural commonalities (and I've always found culture and history to be heavily intertwined, so it doesn't really matter whether something happened 150 years ago, or 300 years ago). America traces it's culture back to the pilgrim fathers every Thanksgiving. Should that not matter because it was so long ago?

    Many African Americans have found some common cultural ground that they celebrate. Surely there's nothing wrong with that just as there shouldn't be anything wrong with whites celebrating some common point of cultural significance.
     
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