I count the War of 1812 as a win for the US

[ginscpy]

Brits were big favorites

Defeated Napolean (thats France for you -eternal losers )

Fought the Brits to a draw -got in the "last word"

Battle of NO - a terrible defeat for the British

 

[Toro]

WHAT!

We kicked your ass!

In wars, its

Canada 1 USA 0

 

[JamesInFlorida]

^^^^ big pet peeve of mine. Canada wasn't an independent country until 50 years or so after the war. It was Britain at the time.

And Britain did not win (granted if they were able to focus solely on the US-the US would have never won the US revolutionary war, or the war of 1812).

 

[rightwinger]

It was a stupid war and Madison almost turned the country back to the British

Attacking Canada when you don't have a standing Army was idiocy

 

[whitehall]

"We fired our guns and the British kept a comin, there wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago, we fired once more and they began to runnin, down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico"....Johnny Horton.

 

[konradv]

The War of 1812 was a tie at best. Hell, they burned our capitol! It ended because the reasons it started were moot, i.e. the impressment of sailors and the blockade of Eupopean ports controlled by Napoleon. If they'd wanted to continue we would have been hard pressed to withstand them, regardless of the Battle of N.O.

 

[Old Rocks]

"We fired our guns and the British kept a comin, there wasn't nigh as many as there was a while ago, we fired once more and they began to runnin, down the Mississippi to the Gulf of Mexico"....Johnny Horton.

Sorry to have to break this to you, Whitey, but Johnny Horton wasn't there. In fact, without the help of a pirate, we might well have lost that battle.

 

[ginscpy]

War Of 1812 was started by the Brits. Unlawfull impressment of American seaman etc

America had no choice but to stand up for their rights.

Invasion of Canada was idiotic.

So the Brits burned DC - Napolean captured Moscow. Meaningless.

 

[Old Rocks]

Tell that to the people that lived in DC at the time.

 

[JamesInFlorida]

And the Germans destroyed large portions of London during air raids in WW2...I don't suppose anybody would suggest that this means Germany won WW2?

 

[rightwinger]

War Of 1812 was started by the Brits. Unlawfull impressment of American seaman etc

America had no choice but to stand up for their rights.

Invasion of Canada was idiotic.

So the Brits burned DC - Napolean captured Moscow. Meaningless.

Madison screwed up big time. He took on a country we had no business messing with. We didn't even have a standing Army

Once we invaded Canada it became more than a squabble over impressing sailors, England got pissed and burned the Capitol. It could have ended with us losing our country

 

[Cuyo]

Brits were big favorites

Defeated Napolean (thats France for you -eternal losers )

Fought the Brits to a draw -got in the "last word"

Battle of NO - a terrible defeat for the British

Uhhhhhh, they stormed our Capitol and razed it to the ground.

Sorry, we definitely lost that one.

edit: Wait, you consider it a win for whom?

un-edit: Nevermind, you said for "US." No, sure wasn't.

 

[Epsilon Delta]

It was a tie between the US and Britain and a waste of time. Helped Canadians forge a stronger sense of national identity though, probably the only winners of the whole debacle, and of course, as always, the Native Americans the only clear losers.

 

[konradv]

And the Germans destroyed large portions of London during air raids in WW2...I don't suppose anybody would suggest that this means Germany won WW2?

No, but enemy troops in your capital usually does. Even if you say they didn't win, on what basis could one say we won?

 

[Intense]

It was a stupid war and Madison almost turned the country back to the British

Attacking Canada when you don't have a standing Army was idiocy

You are an idiot sometimes.

 

[Intense]

The War of 1812 was a mixed bag. We Each claimed victory, mainly because each side had gain from it.

 

[Intense]

The War of 1812 was a military conflict fought between the forces of the United States of America and those of the British Empire.[nb 2] The Americans declared war in 1812 for a number of reasons, including a desire for expansion into the Northwest Territory, trade restrictions because of Britain's ongoing war with France, impressment of American merchant sailors into the Royal Navy, British support of American Indian tribes against American expansion, and the humiliation of American honour. Until 1814, the British Empire adopted a defensive strategy, repelling multiple American invasions of the provinces of Upper and Lower Canada. However, the Americans gained control over Lake Erie in 1813, seized parts of western Ontario, and destroyed Tecumseh's dream of an Indian confederacy. In the Southwest General Andrew Jackson humbled the Creek nation at the Battle of Horseshoe Bend but with the defeat of Napoleon in 1814, the British adopted a more aggressive strategy, sending in three large armies along with more patrols. British victory at the Battle of Bladensburg in August 1814 allowed the British to capture and burn Washington, D.C. American victories in September 1814 and January 1815 repulsed British invasions of New York, Baltimore and New Orleans.

The war was fought in three theaters: At sea, warships and privateers of both sides attacked each other's merchant ships. The British blockaded the Atlantic coast of the U.S. and mounted large-scale raids in the later stages of the war. Both land and naval battles were fought on the frontier, which ran along the Great Lakes and Saint Lawrence River. The South and the Gulf coast saw major land battles in which the American forces destroyed Britain's Indian allies and defeated the main British invasion force at New Orleans. Both sides invaded each other's territory, but these invasions were unsuccessful or temporary. At the end of the war, both sides occupied parts of the other's territory, but these areas were restored by the Treaty of Ghent.

In the U.S., battles such as the Battle of New Orleans and the earlier successful defense of Baltimore (which inspired the lyrics of the U.S. national anthem, "The Star-Spangled Banner") produced a sense of euphoria over a "second war of independence" against Britain. It ushered in an "Era of Good Feelings" in which the partisan animosity that had once verged on treason practically vanished. Canada also emerged from the war with a heightened sense of national feeling and solidarity. Britain regarded the war as a sideshow to the Napoleonic Wars raging in Europe; it welcomed an era of peaceful relations and trade with the United States.
War of 1812 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[JamesInFlorida]

And the Germans destroyed large portions of London during air raids in WW2...I don't suppose anybody would suggest that this means Germany won WW2?

No, but enemy troops in your capital usually does. Even if you say they didn't win, on what basis could one say we won?

I never said the US won. I simply said Britain didn't win.

And no enemy troops being in your capital doesn't equal as losing. Again look at WW2 (just because I already used it as an analogy the first time)-Germany had troops in France, and took over the nation. Just like much of Europe. Did Germany win the war? Of course not.

In the civil war the South had troops in DC as well. Doesn't mean they won.

 

[Indy Terry]

It was a stupid war and Madison almost turned the country back to the British

Attacking Canada when you don't have a standing Army was idiocy

You are an idiot sometimes.

Aren't we all an idiot sometimes?

The British for going to war in North America while fighting the French and The U.S. for fighting the British without a standing army.

Although without the defense of Baltimore being waged we would probably not have that great anthem "The Star Spangled Banner" as our National Anthem.