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It means that homosexual students would not be able to turn to her for appropriate help...thus she cannot perform her job.Has she given any indication that she can't treat them with respect even if she disapproves of their lifestyle? I am a public school teacher. I teach criminals and kids who smell. Just because I don't approve of their choices outside of school, doesn't mean I can't treat them with respect.
But they may run in and say "I was beat up because I kissed Billy."This bias of this school is that gay kids need special handling. That is no less prejudiced than her own beliefs. Gay kids don't run into the counselors office talking about butt sex. Straight kids don't either. They are just kids!
Weren't you the one who would beat his gay kid straight?Spinning your wheels. Once again we have a story of no one caring about kids except as weapons to push their own agendas.
Has she given any indication that she can't treat them with respect even if she disapproves of their lifestyle? I am a public school teacher. I teach criminals and kids who smell. Just because I don't approve of their choices outside of school, doesn't mean I can't treat them with respect.
This bias of this school is that gay kids need special handling. That is no less prejudiced than her own beliefs. Gay kids don't run into the counselors office talking about butt sex. Straight kids don't either. They are just kids!
Enough already.
the student knew it was a secular school and that christian schools exist with counseling programs. why would she set her self up for failure ?
Because she had no idea that a liberal secular school could be so intolerant.
Immie
Or because she thought freedom of religion applied to Christians to. The stupid bitch.
Splatter, you don't know what the hell you're talking about.
You cannot prevent someone from getting a degree BASED ON THEIR RELIGION. There are lots of fucking counselors who are Christians.
And ps. There is no science involved in that degree.
Its not about her religion, its about the refusal to accept the facts.
She needs to know just like you can not get a degree in Anthropology if you insist the world was made in 7 days , you can not have a couseling degree if you are going to insist being gay is a crime. Its against the sceince of the field.
Um I was going to stay out of this but, WTF are you talking about. Against the Science of the Field? How, what science? There is science that proves beyond a shadow of any doubt that Being gay is not an offense to any god eh. Man those scientist are getting good.
Who ever said there is no science to this field, was dead on. It is all opinion and speculation. The only real science pertains to understanding behavioral Patterns, not whether or not it is cool with god to be gay.
I have not even read into this that much. I assume this woman is somehow making it known that not only does she believe in core Christian Ideas, but that she is unable or unwilling to put them aside when offering advice to people? Or are they actually basing this solely on that fact she is a christian?
Legally, you are required to sign a contract to enroll. If she signed without reading it, she is still legally bound by it.You will have to prove that. I do not agree.
Then your school did not have a code of ethics? Mine did, and they were quite clear about the consequences of violations.I didn't "know" what beliefs I was expected to have when I graduated at the time I enrolled at my school. I highly doubt she did either.
Granted, this is a state school so the paradigm isn't quite apt. But imagine a student at Liberty University who is majoring in Theology. In her final exams, this student manages to express her belief that the notion of the Rapture is incorrect and not to be taken seriously as it is the mis-reading of Holy Scripture. If the official doctrine of the Liberty University School of Theology said that the Rapture is not only a very real event but the inevitable end of mortal life on earth, should that student be awarded a degree for holding contrary views?
If her course work was satisfactory, should she be required to 'rethink' her position and accept the school's official stance?
I thought that the university experience was to open ones mind to other possibilities.
Jennifer Keeton, 24, has been enrolled in the College of Education's School Counselor masters degree program since fall 2009.
ASU faculty has ordered her to undergo a remediation plan, which would include diversity sensitivity workshops, she says.
Professors also suggested that she attend Augusta's Gay Pride Parade last month, Keeton told her attorneys. As a part of the plan, she would report back once a month to faculty to determine whether the activities have an impact on her convictions.
Weren't you the one who would beat his gay kid straight?Spinning your wheels. Once again we have a story of no one caring about kids except as weapons to push their own agendas.
My mistake...I misread the article.Where does it say she would be counseling adults?
Jennifer Keeton, 24, has been enrolled in the College of Education's School Counselor masters degree program since fall 2009.
ASU faculty has ordered her to undergo a remediation plan, which would include diversity sensitivity workshops, she says.
Professors also suggested that she attend Augusta's Gay Pride Parade last month, Keeton told her attorneys. As a part of the plan, she would report back once a month to faculty to determine whether the activities have an impact on her convictions.
Christian student sues ASU | The Augusta Chronicle
Telling an already emotionally-troubled homosexual "Your orientation is a choice, choosing to be straight will stop this pain" when he has likely suffered for years trying to make himself straight, might make him suicidal.Agreed. But here is the problem i have with all of this. If you pass the curriculum, regardless of beliefs, what shouldn't you graduate?
Regardless of her beliefs that does not mean she can not demonstrate the ability to counsel homosexuals. I would assume that she would just choose not to counsel them.
I know many who were put through hell by parents who believed just that.
See my above statement...the school does not want her making already troubled homosexuals suicidal.I don't see anywhere that she says she would not or could not counsel LGBT.
In fact, this story says quite the opposite:
Has she given any indication that she can't treat them with respect even if she disapproves of their lifestyle? I am a public school teacher. I teach criminals and kids who smell. Just because I don't approve of their choices outside of school, doesn't mean I can't treat them with respect.
This bias of this school is that gay kids need special handling. That is no less prejudiced than her own beliefs. Gay kids don't run into the counselors office talking about butt sex. Straight kids don't either. They are just kids!
Enough already.
but many do come in when they are in the "confused" state and thats when they are most vulnerable and thats when this women would be encountering them
Fortunately, the Christian Post is not the agency which determines the standards to which professional counselors are held...and I would very much like to see the school's side of the story from a non-religious source.According to the articles (granted that is from her side of the story) she has not denigrated anyone in the classroom.
She understood the requirements of graduation before she signed up, and clearly understood that her beliefs contradicted the goals of her profession through arguments with the professors. She signed contracts where she understood the very strict circumstances in which she could obtain a refund, circumstances which have long since passed.Then since they want to impose their unwarranted beliefs on what a school counselor should believe, they should refund every dime she has had to pay including tuition, book and student fees to her and let her continue her education at a school that does not impose its irreligious and liberal point of view on students.
Immie
yes thats why all of this odd and seems to me like she eventually wanted to cause problems. she knew she was going to a secular school where her religious beliefes who be at odds with the guidelines there and she spent years there anyway.
I am a bit torn though on denying students who pass all the courses, although she shouldn't be licensed unless her views on gays changes or she is licensed but not allowed to counsel gays etc
Is it? Is it a requirement of the program that you accept homosexuality?except that fixing the gay as you imply is against the code of conduct
It's a requirement of the American Counseling Association's Code of Ethics.
So, sort of.
Is it? Is it a requirement of the program that you accept homosexuality?
It's a requirement of the American Counseling Association's Code of Ethics.
So, sort of.
Then it is up to the ACA to either extend her licensing or not. It is not up to the school to deny her the degree.
Immie
Thank you.
Seems no different from a company/agency forcing an employee to undergo "Anger Management" or "Diversity" or "Alcoholic's Anonymous" programs.Keeton claims that she has voiced her Christian beliefs inside and outside the classroom on homosexuality and other biblical teachings. ASU faculty has ordered her to undergo a remediation plan, which would include diversity sensitivity workshops, she says.
So there are no Muslim counselors? I had no idea.
