MarcATL
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Where are you getting this from? Can you back that up by Scripture?There is no Trinity. Jesus made clear he is the SON of God. Nothing that has been posted disagrees with that, in fact it supports it. Jesus was clear he is NOT the Father, he is the Son.
Why are you ignoring this: http://www.usmessageboard.com/religion-and-ethics/186970-i-and-the-father-are-one-2.html#post4203812
He isn't. He is simply acknowledging that unlike the post biblical creeds that seem to interpret the "oneness" to indicate that the Father and the Son are the same being, that Christ was specific in explaining that He and the Father are One, not physically, but in purpose and goal. That's why He prayed for those who followed Him to likewise be one with Him and the Father and each other.
I highly doubt that Jesus meant that we were all supposed to merge into one being.
The oneness they are speaking of is unity not physically. When we are married we are said to be one with our spouse but that doesnt mean we become the same person.
Jesus clearly professes that He is the Messiah and the path of salvation:
John 11:25 KJV - Jesus said unto her I am the - Bible Gateway
Here we see Jesus asking the question point-blank to Peter, who confesses that Jesus is the Son of Man and the Son of God--the prophesied Messiah:
Matthew 16:13-20 NIV - Peter Declares That Jesus Is the - Bible Gateway
In this passage, he makes it clear who he is and why we need him: it is through Jesus, and Jesus alone, and we can be restored to a relationship with God. This passage makes it clear that salvation is available only through Jesus, and not through any other source or religion:
John.14.6 NIV - Jesus answered, I am the way and the - Bible Gateway
There is exactly one way to God, according to the Bible: Jesus Christ. He declares that he is the way, the truth, and the life. No one will come to the Father except through Jesus:
John.14:6 NIV - Jesus answered, I am the way and the - Bible Gateway
And here's one of the numerous instances where Jesus shows up on the Old Testament:
Daniel 3:25 KJV - He answered and said Lo I see four men - Bible Gateway
When you read Psalms you will see David referring to Jesus in many different verses and chapters in many different ways.
Do you refute any of this? If so, please provide the evidence that supports your claims.