"I and the Father are one."

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    Doesn't this mean to be one with God the way Jesus was one with God?
     
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    Let us see what happens when we take that in context.

    Lets see, Jesus said that the miracles he performs prove he is telling the truth, that the people who follow him know his voice, that he gives them eternal life, that no man can take them away from him, and that he is one with the Father who is greater than all.

    If we tried to interpret that to mean what you want it to mean than Jesus would be saying that all Christians have the power to grant eternal life to anyone who follows them. That would be crazy.

    That might work for you, but it does not work for me.
     
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    of course it does
     
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    We don't see eye to eye. Examine what you think "eternal life" means. To me, it means timelessness.
     
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    Sane people do not try to change the entire universe so that it revolves around them and their definitions. Like I keep telling you, you are crazy.
     
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    You have a very small mind when it comes to your faith. Why aren't you happy that I find my way to understanding God and Jesus in a personal way?
     
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    Would you be happy if I insisted that being a lesbian meant that you had to be married to a man? Or if every time you pointed out how stupid that was I changed the meaning of something to prove I was right.

    My refusal to allow you to believe that up is green is not symptomatic of me having a small mind. In order to understand someone, or something, you have to accept them, or it, for who they are. If you were actually interested in learning about Jesus, God, or being a Christian, I would talk to you earnestly, and treat you with respect an patience. Since you are not, I will treat you the way Jesus treated the Pharisees.
     
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    I'm sorry you feel that way. I was trying to find common ground. I guess we have none. Goodbye. I will leave you completely alone now. Take care.
     
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    I bet you just made him cry. How mean of you!

    You are such a bully.
     

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