I am NOT against Electric Vehicles...I want to see them as an alternative!!!

[healthmyths]

Shocking I know... because I'm been extremely voluminous critic of pro-EV people.
But if you look at all my volumes of comments, my major criticism was where was the electricity going to come from?
Simple math would indicate this major issue hasn't been answered MUCH LESS Addressed!!!
FACTS folks...
Today the USA produced :

• 4,116,000,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA today in 2021 by coal,nuclear,gas.
• 49,030,000,000 EIA estimates generated with small-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) systems.
• 4,165,030,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants

Each of the 11,070 total power plants in USA generate 376,244,806 kWh. FACTS~~~ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
The average American drives 14,263 per year https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Assume 80% of all cars of the 228,200,000 Total Drivers fact: Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
or 182,560,000 Total EVs drivers each driven the above average or total miles driven 2,603,853,280,000 miles.
FACT: Average EV car uses .0.25 kWh to travel 1 mile. FACT:Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Divide total miles driven by 0.25 kWH/mile or 650,963,320,000 kWh will be needed.
Additional electricity needed for the EV cars or 650,963,320,000 kWh will require 1,730 additional power plants at each plant generating 376,244,806 kWh.
Let's assume all the new plants are Wind Turbines(WTs) and the cost to build is $1,300,000 USD per megawatt or ($1,300,000 X 376 mWh or $488,800,000).

Wind Turbine Cost: Worth The Million-Dollar Price In 2022?

Multimillion dollar price tag? Huge wind turbine cost a good investment? Do they really pay for themselves in 2022? How much power do they produce? Answers here

weatherguardwind.com

1,730 additional WT power plants will cost $844,701,697,211 in construction costs just for EV cars.
What do you think the cost will be if assume 50% of all the existing trucks in the future are EVs that average 4.3 kWh per Mile Per Truck Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
I'll let you figure that out! Facts: THERE ARE 37,900,000 trucks for business purposes (excluding government and farm) traveling the
average miles per year of 84,433/truck/year....https://www.trucking.org/economics-and-industry-data
So I'm NOT against EVs but I'm trying to make those in favor of EVs to understand the total cost and simply put...well let the experts explain...

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely!

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely

As the number of electric vehicles rises in major economies, the need to recharge may put undue pressure on residential power grids, eventually leading to widespread power outages. But the solution may not be to spend billions to expand electric grids.

www.forbes.com

 

[martybegan]

Until you can charge a battery to full as fast as you can fill a tank of gas, EV's will never be more than niche vehicles.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Yuppie mobiles

They can't tow, recharging is a fiasco, range is horrendous and the batteries are dangerous and destroys the environment

 

[bodecea]

Shocking I know... because I'm been extremely voluminous critic of pro-EV people.
But if you look at all my volumes of comments, my major criticism was where was the electricity going to come from?
Simple math would indicate this major issue hasn't been answered MUCH LESS Addressed!!!
FACTS folks...
Today the USA produced :

• 4,116,000,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA today in 2021 by coal,nuclear,gas.
• 49,030,000,000 EIA estimates generated with small-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) systems.
• 4,165,030,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants

Each of the 11,070 total power plants in USA generate 376,244,806 kWh. FACTS~~~ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
The average American drives 14,263 per year https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Assume 80% of all cars of the 228,200,000 Total Drivers fact: Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
or 182,560,000 Total EVs drivers each driven the above average or total miles driven 2,603,853,280,000 miles.
FACT: Average EV car uses .0.25 kWh to travel 1 mile. FACT:Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Divide total miles driven by 0.25 kWH/mile or 650,963,320,000 kWh will be needed.
Additional electricity needed for the EV cars or 650,963,320,000 kWh will require 1,730 additional power plants at each plant generating 376,244,806 kWh.
Let's assume all the new plants are Wind Turbines(WTs) and the cost to build is $1,300,000 USD per megawatt or ($1,300,000 X 376 mWh or $488,800,000).

Wind Turbine Cost: Worth The Million-Dollar Price In 2022?

Multimillion dollar price tag? Huge wind turbine cost a good investment? Do they really pay for themselves in 2022? How much power do they produce? Answers here

weatherguardwind.com

1,730 additional WT power plants will cost $844,701,697,211 in construction costs just for EV cars.
What do you think the cost will be if assume 50% of all the existing trucks in the future are EVs that average 4.3 kWh per Mile Per Truck Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
I'll let you figure that out! Facts: THERE ARE 37,900,000 trucks for business purposes (excluding government and farm) traveling the
average miles per year of 84,433/truck/year....https://www.trucking.org/economics-and-industry-data
So I'm NOT against EVs but I'm trying to make those in favor of EVs to understand the total cost and simply put...well let the experts explain...

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely!

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely

As the number of electric vehicles rises in major economies, the need to recharge may put undue pressure on residential power grids, eventually leading to widespread power outages. But the solution may not be to spend billions to expand electric grids.

www.forbes.com

They fill a niche....someone commuting back and forth to work. I wouldn't buy one myself.

 

[ActionJackson]

I wonder what the pretend "environmentalists" are going to do when the EV breaks down in a blizzard?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

I wonder what the pretend "environmentalists" are going to do when the EV breaks down in a blizzard?

Freeze

 

[bodecea]

Freeze

Will you be doing the happy dance?

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Will you be doing the happy dance?

Buy one I don't care... I'll wave as I pass you waiting to recharge

 

[gipper]

Yuppie mobiles

They can't tow, recharging is a fiasco, range is horrendous and the batteries are dangerous and destroys the environment

Exactly. What’s not to love? Lol.

The fact they are so ineffective (costly too) yet heavily pushed by the elite, government, and media would appear to indicate there are ulterior motives involved.

 

[Ralph Norton]

Yuppie mobiles

They can't tow, recharging is a fiasco, range is horrendous and the batteries are dangerous and destroys the environment

But other than that, they're a great idea.

 

[dblack]

That's not how socialism works. The central planners will make EVs and you will like them!

 

[ActionJackson]

Exactly. What’s not to love? Lol.

The fact they are so ineffective (costly too) yet heavily pushed by the elite, government, and media would appear to indicate there are ulterior motives involved.

Well ... it's not like Congressional members are known for insider trading or anything like that. They're far too trustworthy to pull the wool over our eyes for a quick buck.

 

[Billiejeens]

Until you can charge a battery to full as fast as you can fill a tank of gas, EV's will never be more than niche vehicles.

Except that everything else will be illegal.

 

[Billiejeens]

Will you be doing the happy dance?

No one should dance until your ilk are extinct.

 

[justoffal]

Shocking I know... because I'm been extremely voluminous critic of pro-EV people.
But if you look at all my volumes of comments, my major criticism was where was the electricity going to come from?
Simple math would indicate this major issue hasn't been answered MUCH LESS Addressed!!!
FACTS folks...
Today the USA produced :

• 4,116,000,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA today in 2021 by coal,nuclear,gas.
• 49,030,000,000 EIA estimates generated with small-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) systems.
• 4,165,030,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants

Each of the 11,070 total power plants in USA generate 376,244,806 kWh. FACTS~~~ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
The average American drives 14,263 per year https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Assume 80% of all cars of the 228,200,000 Total Drivers fact: Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
or 182,560,000 Total EVs drivers each driven the above average or total miles driven 2,603,853,280,000 miles.
FACT: Average EV car uses .0.25 kWh to travel 1 mile. FACT:Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Divide total miles driven by 0.25 kWH/mile or 650,963,320,000 kWh will be needed.
Additional electricity needed for the EV cars or 650,963,320,000 kWh will require 1,730 additional power plants at each plant generating 376,244,806 kWh.
Let's assume all the new plants are Wind Turbines(WTs) and the cost to build is $1,300,000 USD per megawatt or ($1,300,000 X 376 mWh or $488,800,000).

Wind Turbine Cost: Worth The Million-Dollar Price In 2022?

Multimillion dollar price tag? Huge wind turbine cost a good investment? Do they really pay for themselves in 2022? How much power do they produce? Answers here

weatherguardwind.com

1,730 additional WT power plants will cost $844,701,697,211 in construction costs just for EV cars.
What do you think the cost will be if assume 50% of all the existing trucks in the future are EVs that average 4.3 kWh per Mile Per Truck Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
I'll let you figure that out! Facts: THERE ARE 37,900,000 trucks for business purposes (excluding government and farm) traveling the
average miles per year of 84,433/truck/year....https://www.trucking.org/economics-and-industry-data
So I'm NOT against EVs but I'm trying to make those in favor of EVs to understand the total cost and simply put...well let the experts explain...

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely!

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely

As the number of electric vehicles rises in major economies, the need to recharge may put undue pressure on residential power grids, eventually leading to widespread power outages. But the solution may not be to spend billions to expand electric grids.

www.forbes.com

Hint... You need to use unit designations to make the post more coherent.

Jo

 

[healthmyths]

Hint... You need to use unit designations to make the post more coherent.

Jo

Please give me an example of "unit designations"?
The designation of a unit usually consists of a number, a branch or function, and a level of command. Where the designation includes a parenthetical identification, that portion not in parentheses is the official designation

Unit Designations

www.globalsecurity.org

 

[kaz]

Shocking I know... because I'm been extremely voluminous critic of pro-EV people.
But if you look at all my volumes of comments, my major criticism was where was the electricity going to come from?
Simple math would indicate this major issue hasn't been answered MUCH LESS Addressed!!!
FACTS folks...
Today the USA produced :

• 4,116,000,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA today in 2021 by coal,nuclear,gas.
• 49,030,000,000 EIA estimates generated with small-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) systems.
• 4,165,030,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants

Each of the 11,070 total power plants in USA generate 376,244,806 kWh. FACTS~~~ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
The average American drives 14,263 per year https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Assume 80% of all cars of the 228,200,000 Total Drivers fact: Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
or 182,560,000 Total EVs drivers each driven the above average or total miles driven 2,603,853,280,000 miles.
FACT: Average EV car uses .0.25 kWh to travel 1 mile. FACT:Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Divide total miles driven by 0.25 kWH/mile or 650,963,320,000 kWh will be needed.
Additional electricity needed for the EV cars or 650,963,320,000 kWh will require 1,730 additional power plants at each plant generating 376,244,806 kWh.
Let's assume all the new plants are Wind Turbines(WTs) and the cost to build is $1,300,000 USD per megawatt or ($1,300,000 X 376 mWh or $488,800,000).

Wind Turbine Cost: Worth The Million-Dollar Price In 2022?

Multimillion dollar price tag? Huge wind turbine cost a good investment? Do they really pay for themselves in 2022? How much power do they produce? Answers here

weatherguardwind.com

1,730 additional WT power plants will cost $844,701,697,211 in construction costs just for EV cars.
What do you think the cost will be if assume 50% of all the existing trucks in the future are EVs that average 4.3 kWh per Mile Per Truck Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
I'll let you figure that out! Facts: THERE ARE 37,900,000 trucks for business purposes (excluding government and farm) traveling the
average miles per year of 84,433/truck/year....https://www.trucking.org/economics-and-industry-data
So I'm NOT against EVs but I'm trying to make those in favor of EVs to understand the total cost and simply put...well let the experts explain...

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely!

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely

As the number of electric vehicles rises in major economies, the need to recharge may put undue pressure on residential power grids, eventually leading to widespread power outages. But the solution may not be to spend billions to expand electric grids.

www.forbes.com

I would never buy an electric vehicle based on modern technology

 

[kaz]

I wonder what the pretend "environmentalists" are going to do when the EV breaks down in a blizzard?

That would be an advance for an EV to make it to a blizzard before dying

 

[elektra]

Shocking I know... because I'm been extremely voluminous critic of pro-EV people.
But if you look at all my volumes of comments, my major criticism was where was the electricity going to come from?
Simple math would indicate this major issue hasn't been answered MUCH LESS Addressed!!!
FACTS folks...
Today the USA produced :

• 4,116,000,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA today in 2021 by coal,nuclear,gas.
• 49,030,000,000 EIA estimates generated with small-scale solar photovoltaic (PV) systems.
• 4,165,030,000,000 Total electricity generated in USA in 2021 by all power plants

Each of the 11,070 total power plants in USA generate 376,244,806 kWh. FACTS~~~ Frequently Asked Questions (FAQs) - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
The average American drives 14,263 per year https://www.thezebra.com/resources/driving/average-miles-driven-per-year/
Assume 80% of all cars of the 228,200,000 Total Drivers fact: Total number of licensed drivers in the U.S. by state | Statista
or 182,560,000 Total EVs drivers each driven the above average or total miles driven 2,603,853,280,000 miles.
FACT: Average EV car uses .0.25 kWh to travel 1 mile. FACT:Average Electric Car kWh Per Mile [Results From 231 EVs]
Divide total miles driven by 0.25 kWH/mile or 650,963,320,000 kWh will be needed.
Additional electricity needed for the EV cars or 650,963,320,000 kWh will require 1,730 additional power plants at each plant generating 376,244,806 kWh.
Let's assume all the new plants are Wind Turbines(WTs) and the cost to build is $1,300,000 USD per megawatt or ($1,300,000 X 376 mWh or $488,800,000).

Wind Turbine Cost: Worth The Million-Dollar Price In 2022?

Multimillion dollar price tag? Huge wind turbine cost a good investment? Do they really pay for themselves in 2022? How much power do they produce? Answers here

weatherguardwind.com

1,730 additional WT power plants will cost $844,701,697,211 in construction costs just for EV cars.
What do you think the cost will be if assume 50% of all the existing trucks in the future are EVs that average 4.3 kWh per Mile Per Truck Battery capacity and recharging needs for electric buses in city transit service (Journal Article) | OSTI.GOV
I'll let you figure that out! Facts: THERE ARE 37,900,000 trucks for business purposes (excluding government and farm) traveling the
average miles per year of 84,433/truck/year....https://www.trucking.org/economics-and-industry-data
So I'm NOT against EVs but I'm trying to make those in favor of EVs to understand the total cost and simply put...well let the experts explain...

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely!

As More EVs Hit The Road, Blackouts Become Likely

As the number of electric vehicles rises in major economies, the need to recharge may put undue pressure on residential power grids, eventually leading to widespread power outages. But the solution may not be to spend billions to expand electric grids.

www.forbes.com

I would think you would be against any technology that is inefficient.

I would also think you would be against a technology that is party the Green Renewable Economy which is so inefficient only borrowed government spending forever finances it.

The Green Renewable economy is the most wasteful, deceitful, expensive, power grabbing, over-reaching any tyranny of a corrupt government has ever thought up.

 

[kaz]

I would think you would be against any technology that is inefficient.

I would also think you would be against a technology that is party the Green Renewable Economy which is so inefficient only borrowed government spending forever finances it.

The Green Renewable economy is the most wasteful, deceitful, expensive, power grabbing, over-reaching any tyranny of a corrupt government has ever thought up.

That's the thing, electric vehicles are not in our technical capabilities yet. Democrats like pushing stupid not ready for prime time technology. No idea why, but they do