I am not afraid to tell you I told you so.

[Douger]

Hail Mary !!!

 

[koshergrl]

I get tired of assholes spreading dangerous idiocy about child molesters.

 

[Intense]

You must have missed my weeks long tirade against sex ed and the whole culture that sprung from Kinsey.

Where the heck were you then?

Living my Life. Minding my business. You know that you are not the center of creation, right? Look at this as an affirmation then at the least. Sorry that it is so dated, though.

There are always going to be those trying to lead others astray. That is not going to stop in this life. It is a given. Shedding light on it is also a given. Breaks over.

 

[koshergrl]

Yeah, fuck yourself, asshole. I already enlightened everybody about Kinsey. You can go back to whatever really important thing it is you do.

 

[Intense]

I get tired of assholes spreading dangerous idiocy about child molesters.

Point it out, one step at a time. Being tired of assholes does not stop them, it encourages them. They are empowered by your frustration, not weakened. Focus on your resolve.

 

[koshergrl]

Thanks, I'll do it my way.

 

[Noomi]

I don't believe in it either. I'm anti-abortion too.

I don't believe in sex with kids either.

So how do you stop someone with overwhelming urges to have sex with underage kids? Counseling?

I don't know, but I do know that you cannot kill someone for a crime they are yet to commit.

Perhaps a way to encourage them to come forward and seek treatment, without fear of being persecuted? Other than that, its a tough call as to how to deal with it.

 

[Artevelde]

I accept that people are born with an attraction to children, as obviously, no sane person is going to choose to find children attractive.

But we don't need to accept them. I can accept someone who says they have an attraction to children, but have no acted on it, but once you give in to those desires, you lose that acceptance.

Pedophiles need to know that they must control their urges, that abusing children is never okay, even if they do say they were born that way.

Sounds pretty reasonable.

 

[Artevelde]

I accept that people are born with an attraction to children, as obviously, no sane person is going to choose to find children attractive.

But we don't need to accept them. I can accept someone who says they have an attraction to children, but have no acted on it, but once you give in to those desires, you lose that acceptance.

Pedophiles need to know that they must control their urges, that abusing children is never okay, even if they do say they were born that way.

Public Execution would be my way of doing that.

I don't believe in the death penalty (we don't have it here in Australia) so that is not an option for me.

I do believe in the death penalty, but only for exceptional cases where the convicted criminal is clearly an unacceptable risk to society. While pedophilia-crimes are horrible, they do not in and of themselves warrant the death penalty (if murder was involved it would possibly be another matter).

 

[Noomi]

Castration might work.

But it would have to be voluntary. A person had those feelings and wanted to rid themselves of those feelings would have to volunteer to be chemically castrated, and even then, is it fair to deny someone a (consensual) sexual relationship based on their feelings?

 

[Artevelde]

I don't believe in it either. I'm anti-abortion too.

I don't believe in sex with kids either.

So how do you stop someone with overwhelming urges to have sex with underage kids? Counseling?

I don't know, but I do know that you cannot kill someone for a crime they are yet to commit.

Perhaps a way to encourage them to come forward and seek treatment, without fear of being persecuted? Other than that, its a tough call as to how to deal with it.

Depends on what you mean by "without fear of being persecuted". You can't give them a blanket amnesty for committed crimes and if they haven't committed crimes, but do state that they have this tendency, you cannot fail to act on it and barr them from certain professions.

 

[Artevelde]

For all those gay lovers out there I told you this would happen.

Pedophiles claim they were "born that way" too. So we have to sacrifice our children to them.


Before It's News

What did you "tell us" would happen?

Why don't you stop being so fucking stupid for once?

Be reasonable. Don't ask for the impossible.

 

[bodecea]

Isn't that how the gay rights movement got started?

Still, you are jumping to conclusions. Gay Right's regarding the private action of consenting adults, V.S. Recognized Child Abuse, adult violating a child. True groups like NAMBLA try to advocate and promote Pedophilia. Still, it is wrong to connect that with the Gay Community as a whole. You are wrongly projecting. Further, sometimes the victims of such crimes grow up to be predators, sometimes they also grow up to be avid defenders and protectors, as a result. Each must choose, true enough. Why not work on your focus, rather than falsely accuse?

You remember back in the day high school senior dating a freshman? If the senior he or she was 18 could be charged as a pedophile now.

No.

 

[uscitizen]

Why don't you stop being so fucking stupid for once?

You told us that there would be a medical research conference to discuss the technical definitions of the term pedophilia in the DSM?

I said stop being stupid.

Please listen to your own advise.

 

[bodecea]

I see you re-vomitting a crazy-ass blog post, with no actual quotes of any "pedophiles" demanding anything at all.

Where are these "demands" themselves?

OH so now it's just a blog? But it did mention Pedophiles Demand Social Acceptance Gays Got

Here is something a little old, 2002, but it does add perspective and some history to your concerns. There is a lot out there, if you are interested. This adds some perspective to what the RC Church went through. If true, it is very troubling.
Many are so quick to point fingers at the Church, and at the same time defend Public School Teachers for the same abuses.
Still, better to go on what you know, rather than presume.

Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice
Catholic C itizens of Illinois ^

Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 12:39:02 PM by boromeo

Dr. Judith Reisman, Debunker of Kinsey Sex Research, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

Thursday, December 26, 2002

By Karl Maurer, Vice President

As the sex scandal in the Catholic Church continues to unfold, the most shocking aspect is not so much the abuse itself, but that molester priests were repeatedly given access to children, even after they were known to be child molesters. While the Bishops are in a large part responsible for the sex scandal in the church, there is a growing body of evidence pointing to an enormous fraud perpetrated on the Catholic Church by so-called sex "experts" who consulted to the Bishops and allegedly "treated" sex abuser priests.

What if these "experts", who claimed that child molesting priests could be reformed and then repatriated to their parishes, weren't really experts at all? What if they were quack doctors, who believed there was fundamentally nothing wrong with adult/child sexually contact? What if their so-called treatments never showed success, and in fact were never intended to stop child sexual abuse?

This is the thesis advanced by Dr. Judith Reisman, Ph. D., who believes that the entire field of sexology, established by the notorious Dr. Alfred Kinsey, is a fraud. Dr. Reisman also believes that the so-called treatments given to predator priests in Kinsey inspired therapy sessions were so grossly ineffective, that the Catholic Church and the victims of clerical sexual abuse have a legal claim against these sex clinics for medical malpractice. She is currently consulting with several attorneys regarding class action suits whereby the Catholic laity can seek damages.

Dr. Reisman, Ph.D. visited Chicago in November to discuss these issues and the second edition of her landmark book, Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences at the invitation of Catholic Citizens of Illinois, a lay group founded in 1996 which offers a monthly luncheon and speaker forum open to the public.

After completing her doctorate studies in mass communication in 1980, Dr. Reisman entered an investigation into Dr. Kinsey . In 1998, she published the first edition of Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences, which exposed Dr. Kinsey, for the first time, as an academic fraud and a bi/homosexual responsible for massive child molestation.

Long before the Catholic Church made the headlines for the child abuse scandals, Dr. Alfred Kinsey, the so-called father of the Sexual Revolution, was quietly employing child abusers and homosexuals as researchers. In spite of the fact that Kinsey was a bi/homosexual, criminally responsible for massive child molestation, and an academic fraud, he obtained the financial backing of the notorious Rockefeller Foundation. Kinsey's research was ultimately used to eliminate laws that banned pornography and sexual deviancy in all fifty states. In the process, he ignited the Sexual Revolution of the Sixties. Kinsey was so influential on American culture that in 1989 the National Research Council pronounced that American society could be divided into "Pre- and Post Kinsey" eras.

Dr. Reisman's investigation has revealed that the Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University ("IU"), led by Dr. Kinsey, was responsible for the criminal sexual abuse of over 300 infants and children, the results of which were published in Kinsey's 1948 report on male sexuality. Dr. Reisman also revealed that Kinsey's female 'research' subjects would have included large numbers of prostitutes, the only women willing to candidly discuss their sex lives with him. For his "normal" male subjects, Kinsey used prison inmates, where homosexuality was rampant .

Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

You've got me curious now. Who is defending public school teachers for the same offenses?

 

[JakeStarkey]

What did you "tell us" would happen?

Why don't you stop being so fucking stupid for once?

Be reasonable. Don't ask for the impossible.

Do either of you know the definition of "pedophile"? Thought not. Here.

The focus of pedophilia is sexual activity with a child. Many courts interpret this reference to age to mean children under the age of 18. Most mental health professionals, however, confine the definition of pedophilia to sexual activity with prepubescent children, who are generally age 13 or younger. The term ephebophilia , derived from the Greek word for "youth," is sometimes used to describe sexual interest in young people in the first stages of puberty.

Read more: Pedophilia - children, causes, DSM, functioning, therapy, adults, person, people Pedophilia - children, causes, DSM, functioning, therapy, adults, person, people

 

[koshergrl]

So...what exactly is your point, js?

 

[koshergrl]

OH so now it's just a blog? But it did mention Pedophiles Demand Social Acceptance Gays Got

Here is something a little old, 2002, but it does add perspective and some history to your concerns. There is a lot out there, if you are interested. This adds some perspective to what the RC Church went through. If true, it is very troubling.
Many are so quick to point fingers at the Church, and at the same time defend Public School Teachers for the same abuses.
Still, better to go on what you know, rather than presume.

Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice
Catholic C itizens of Illinois ^

Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 12:39:02 PM by boromeo

Dr. Judith Reisman, Debunker of Kinsey Sex Research, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

Thursday, December 26, 2002

By Karl Maurer, Vice President

As the sex scandal in the Catholic Church continues to unfold, the most shocking aspect is not so much the abuse itself, but that molester priests were repeatedly given access to children, even after they were known to be child molesters. While the Bishops are in a large part responsible for the sex scandal in the church, there is a growing body of evidence pointing to an enormous fraud perpetrated on the Catholic Church by so-called sex "experts" who consulted to the Bishops and allegedly "treated" sex abuser priests.

What if these "experts", who claimed that child molesting priests could be reformed and then repatriated to their parishes, weren't really experts at all? What if they were quack doctors, who believed there was fundamentally nothing wrong with adult/child sexually contact? What if their so-called treatments never showed success, and in fact were never intended to stop child sexual abuse?

This is the thesis advanced by Dr. Judith Reisman, Ph. D., who believes that the entire field of sexology, established by the notorious Dr. Alfred Kinsey, is a fraud. Dr. Reisman also believes that the so-called treatments given to predator priests in Kinsey inspired therapy sessions were so grossly ineffective, that the Catholic Church and the victims of clerical sexual abuse have a legal claim against these sex clinics for medical malpractice. She is currently consulting with several attorneys regarding class action suits whereby the Catholic laity can seek damages.

Dr. Reisman, Ph.D. visited Chicago in November to discuss these issues and the second edition of her landmark book, Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences at the invitation of Catholic Citizens of Illinois, a lay group founded in 1996 which offers a monthly luncheon and speaker forum open to the public.

After completing her doctorate studies in mass communication in 1980, Dr. Reisman entered an investigation into Dr. Kinsey . In 1998, she published the first edition of Kinsey: Crimes and Consequences, which exposed Dr. Kinsey, for the first time, as an academic fraud and a bi/homosexual responsible for massive child molestation.

Long before the Catholic Church made the headlines for the child abuse scandals, Dr. Alfred Kinsey, the so-called father of the Sexual Revolution, was quietly employing child abusers and homosexuals as researchers. In spite of the fact that Kinsey was a bi/homosexual, criminally responsible for massive child molestation, and an academic fraud, he obtained the financial backing of the notorious Rockefeller Foundation. Kinsey's research was ultimately used to eliminate laws that banned pornography and sexual deviancy in all fifty states. In the process, he ignited the Sexual Revolution of the Sixties. Kinsey was so influential on American culture that in 1989 the National Research Council pronounced that American society could be divided into "Pre- and Post Kinsey" eras.

Dr. Reisman's investigation has revealed that the Institute for Sex Research at Indiana University ("IU"), led by Dr. Kinsey, was responsible for the criminal sexual abuse of over 300 infants and children, the results of which were published in Kinsey's 1948 report on male sexuality. Dr. Reisman also revealed that Kinsey's female 'research' subjects would have included large numbers of prostitutes, the only women willing to candidly discuss their sex lives with him. For his "normal" male subjects, Kinsey used prison inmates, where homosexuality was rampant .

Dr. Judith Reisman, Advises Catholic Church to Sue the Sex Experts for Medical Malpractice

You've got me curious now. Who is defending public school teachers for the same offenses?

The unions. That's why they're shuffled from one school to the next. The schools can't fire them unless there are criminal charges, and a conviction. (they can't even fire them for being charged criminally..they have to give them paid leave). That's all part of Kinsey's legacy too...de-criminalizing pedophilia and other sex crimes..the result is that it's reallly hard to get a conviction, which makes people REALLY reluctant to press charges.

 

[Katzndogz]

Spin, spin, spin.

We have been giving pedo priests our children for hundreds of years.
God told us to.

Teachers long ago outran priests in the pedophilia race. It's okay because the government told you to. And, if you don't there will be penalties.

 

[Katzndogz]

California wants to recognize multiple parents, a necessary first step towards the legalization of polygamy.

When a civilization starts down the road of degeneracy, it never stops short of the botton.