How will we generate 10,151,170,439,575 kWh of electricity for ALL EV cars/trucks/buses,etc.

[elektra]

They will likely do the same thing big oil does for subsidies. Spend money to lobby politicians.

Tax deductions are not the same as the subsidies and rules written dictating we buy expensive inefficient renewables

 

[Flash]

We were going it alone at Hanford. Iter is an international effort that spreads the costs around.

The FFTF's cost at Hanford was a small part of the total Hanford budget.

I worked there. We wasted far more money at Hanford kissing the ass of the filthy unions, screwing around with wasteful DOE oversight and doing stupid projects at the PNNL than the cost of FFTF.

One of the dumbest things our country ever did was shut FFTF down. We can thank the idiotic sicko environmental wackos and the Democrats for helping them.

 

[elektra]

The FFTF's cost at Hanford was a small part of the total Hanford budget.

I worked there. We wasted far more money at Hanford kissing the ass of the filthy unions, screwing around with wasteful DOE oversight and doing stupid projects at the PNNL than the cost of FFTF.

One of the dumbest things our country ever did was shut FFTF down. We can thank the idiotic sicko environmental wackos and the Democrats for helping them.

WOOPs

 

[Independentthinker]

Right now in 2022 the total electricity generated by 11,070 power plants is 4.165 kWh of electricity BUT if we go totally EVs..
where will the additional 10.151 Trillion kWh come from? As the below graph shows in 2021 we were running BELOW the capacity in 1997!
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We will have to build a whole lot more of fossil fuel plants to provide the electricity to charge all of the EV's.

 

[kyzr]

Nuclear is horse-and-buggy technology. This is the 21st century. 20th century methods aren't good enough. The money invested will be worth it and it'll be 20 years before we have all those EVs anyway.

LOL!! If fusion was doable Elon Musk would be designing one.
He knows that we're not advanced enough yet to build fusion powerplants.
That's why Elon supports building standard nuke powerplants.
CA is running out of power already, and the 1st generation of nuke plants are being decommissioned.
We need reliable power for the next 20-years, and fusion/renewables aren't it.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Tax deductions are not the same as the subsidies and rules written dictating we buy expensive inefficient renewables

No, they aren't the same but the money comes from the same place ultimately so the difference is moot.

 

[healthmyths]

That graph is JUST nuclear electricity production. Can you get anything right?

OK... IT is NOT productions dummy!
from the below link:
Capacity = Maximum Power Output When it comes to generation capacity, think maximum power output.
Capacity is the amount of electricity a generator can produce when it’s running at full blast.
Capacity is not the same as electricity generation.

en it comes to generation capacity, think maximum power output.​

 

[elektra]

No, they aren't the same but the money comes from the same place ultimately so the difference is moot.

Bullshit, paying a corporation to build or install renewables, before the even make a dollar is not the same as the oil companies taking the same standard deductions everyone tajes. That is the same deduction renewables take on top of the subsidies that they profit from.

 

[Catsnmeters]

Bullshit, paying a corporation to build or install renewables, before the even make a dollar is not the same as the oil companies taking the same standard deductions everyone tajes. That is the same deduction renewables take on top of the subsidies that they profit from.

Oil companies do not get "the same standard deductions" and yes, it is the same because the ultimate cost comes from consumers. What the heck difference does it make how that money is distributed? Sounds like your running partison interference because you are trained to love oil companies.

 

[elektra]

Oil companies do not get "the same standard deductions" and yes, it is the same because the ultimate cost comes from consumers. What the heck difference does it make how that money is distributed? Sounds like your running partison interference because you are trained to love oil companies.

Sounds like you have zero education on which you speak.

Solar and Wind receive subsidies that only they get.

Oil or Fossil Fuel and renewables pay taxes under the same exact tax code. Whatever fossil fuels write off, the renewables right off.

 

[g5000]

My water heater is using 3.200 kWh of the electricity right now ... the all of the rest of the United States is only burning 9 hundred watt light bulbs? ...

Your math is wrong ... first of all, that's electricity consumed, because consumption always equals production ... so what's the name-plate rating on these 11,070 power plants? ... you're smelling the wrong pile of shit ... it's the transmission lines that are the weak link ... we can build more power plants ... but we need massive expensive upgrades to the overhead wires ... those with buried cable are fucked ...

We produced more than 38¢ of electricity last year ... how much does a kWh cost YOU? ...

Healthmyths consistently gets his math wrong.

 

[AntonToo]

OK... IT is NOT productions dummy!
from the below link:
Capacity = Maximum Power Output When it comes to generation capacity, think maximum power output.
Capacity is the amount of electricity a generator can produce when it’s running at full blast.
Capacity is not the same as electricity generation.

View attachment 736791

en it comes to generation capacity, think maximum power output.​

Moron the graph shows just NUCLEAR electricity capacity and production. It doesn't show total.

 

[healthmyths]

Moron the graph shows just NUCLEAR electricity capacity and production. It doesn't show total.

Well who said differently? I was showing capacity and actually nuclear generally at the highest capacity.
FACT: Nuclear has the highest capacity factor of any other energy source—producing reliable, carbon-free power more than 92% of the time in 2021. That's nearly twice as reliable as a coal (49.3%) or natural gas (54.4%) plant and almost 3 times more often than wind (34.6%) and solar (24.6%) plants.May 1, 2020

What is Generation Capacity?

Capacity is the amount of electricity a generator can produce when it's running at full blast. Learn more about this confusing energy term.

www.energy.gov

 

[Catsnmeters]

Sounds like you have zero education on which you speak.

Solar and Wind receive subsidies that only they get.

Oil or Fossil Fuel and renewables pay taxes under the same exact tax code. Whatever fossil fuels write off, the renewables right off.

No they don't.

"Large oil companies in the United States have been paying taxes at a significantly lower rate than most other corporations. The chief reason is that there are provisions in the U.S. tax code that allow energy companies to defer and avoid federal income tax payments.

How Oil Companies Pay Such Low Taxes

Big oil corporations pay much lower taxes than other corporations; learn about tax exemptions and the option to defer.

www.investopedia.com

 

[konradv]

LOL!! If fusion was doable Elon Musk would be designing one.
He knows that we're not advanced enough yet to build fusion powerplants.
That's why Elon supports building standard nuke powerplants.
CA is running out of power already, and the 1st generation of nuke plants are being decommissioned.
We need reliable power for the next 20-years, and fusion/renewables aren't it.

What does Elon Musk know about nuclear physics? Plus, no matter how rich he is, he doesn't have enough money, hence the multi-national effort. Considering the mess he's made of Twitter, why should we trust that he'd be competent enough to handle something as tricky as nuclear power? He can't seem to handle something as mundane as social media without it blowing up in his face.

 

[Lastamender]

What does Elon Musk know about nuclear physics? Plus, no matter how rich he is, he doesn't have enough money, hence the multi-national effort. Considering the mess he's made of Twitter, why should we trust that he'd be competent enough to handle something as tricky as nuclear power? He can't seem to handle something as mundane as social media without it blowing up in his face.

What does Elon Musk know about nuclear physics?

Probably a Hell of of a lot and certainly more than you.

 

[konradv]

Probably a Hell of of a lot and certainly more than you.

But not more than the people at Iter. Considering his lack of social awareness, I wouldn't trust him a second with something as dangerous as nuclear power.

 

[Lastamender]

But not more than the people at Iter. Considering his lack of social awareness, I wouldn't trust him a second with something as dangerous as nuclear power.

You say that when a pants shitting pervert like Biden has the nuclear code?

 

[elektra]

No they don't.

"Large oil companies in the United States have been paying taxes at a significantly lower rate than most other corporations. The chief reason is that there are provisions in the U.S. tax code that allow energy companies to defer and avoid federal income tax payments.

How Oil Companies Pay Such Low Taxes

Big oil corporations pay much lower taxes than other corporations; learn about tax exemptions and the option to defer.

www.investopedia.com

No they don't.

"Large oil companies in the United States have been paying taxes at a significantly lower rate than most other corporations. The chief reason is that there are provisions in the U.S. tax code that allow energy companies to defer and avoid federal income tax payments.

How Oil Companies Pay Such Low Taxes

Big oil corporations pay much lower taxes than other corporations; learn about tax exemptions and the option to defer.

www.investopedia.com

So, other than a google search, you really dont know anything?

I know what people say, I also know there is a tax code. I am interested in the tax code. That is what will show if you are right or wrong.

 

[ReinyDays]

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