How to identify a racist...........

[JoeB131]

So you're comfy with your hatred of Mormons now, huh?

I've always been comfortable with it, just as soon as I realized just how crazy their beliefs were.

you see, my dislike of them is based on substance.

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

 

[JoeB131]

This is mere delusion on your part

It shouldn't be close in WI, MI, or Ohio...but it is.

Obama the great is gone as is your delusions of the great socialist state......2012 will be worse for you than 2010 was.

Get used to it.

Intrade has an Obama victory at 57.7 to 42.3.

The RCP Electoral Map has Obama winning 332 to 206

Nate Silver's 538 blog has Obama with a 73.1% chance of winning.

CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post

DENVER—Two University of Colorado professors have devised a model to predict who will win the presidential election under current economic circumstances. The victor, they say, will be Republican Mitt Romney.
The model uses economic indicators from all 50 states to predict the race's outcome. The forecast calls for Romney to win 320 electoral votes out of 538. It says Romney will also win virtually every state currently considered a swing state, including Colorado.
The professors who created the model, Ken Bickers from CU-Boulder and Michael Berry from CU-Denver, say it correctly forecast every winner of the electoral since 1980.


Read more: CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post
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And twisting the knife:
Michael Moore Predicts ‘President Romney’ In November « CBS DC

He'd better hope so. He'll make more money under a Romney presidency.

So a model you've never heard of predicts a Romney presidency... yupppers, I know you guys are grasping at any straw.

The guy couldn't pull ahead during his own convention. Less people even watched the convention than watched it in 2008. And there were less people voting in the primaries than voted in 2008.

 

[JoeB131]

Pointing to your irrational hatred as proof of a claim proves only that you're an irrational hater.

I think it's a pretty rational criticism.

Of course you do. So do skinheads. So do Klansmen. So do neo-Nazis.

You're in good company, aren't you?

Unless you are going down to the nearest Mormon Temple and signing up for your own set of magic underwear so you can learn the secret handshake and get to rule your own planet in the Celestial Heaven, you don't buy that shit any more than I do.

Like any typical leftist, you believe disagreement = hate.

I disagree with Mormons. I don't hate them like you do.

You really are driven by nothing but emotion.

No, it's simple logic. Crazy religious beliefs never end well.

Just ask the Branch Davidians or the People's temple. Cults are by their nature evil.

And they don't become less evil when they have a lot of money and some political influence.

 

[JoeB131]

This is mere delusion on your part

It shouldn't be close in WI, MI, or Ohio...but it is.

Obama the great is gone as is your delusions of the great socialist state......2012 will be worse for you than 2010 was.

Get used to it.

Intrade has an Obama victory at 57.7 to 42.3.

The RCP Electoral Map has Obama winning 332 to 206

Nate Silver's 538 blog has Obama with a 73.1% chance of winning.

Thanks for that spot of hackery.

Amazingly, Intrade is the most credible. That's at least people putting there money where their mouth is. But not all investors are well informed investors (far from it); so it only means so much still and it matches recent gallup/rassmussen polls about the majority believing Obama will win.

It'll be Romney though. He's cleaning up the swing states; especially after he pounds Obama into pudding during the debates.

Actually, Nate Silver is a genius at this...

And he's not "cleaning up" in the Swing States. Obama leads in the RCP average in ALL of them except North Carolina. Jesus, you guys are delusional. You might as well sign up for the Magic Underwear.

 

[Unkotare]

I've always been comfortable with it, just as soon as I realized just how crazy their beliefs were.

you see, my dislike of them is based on substance.

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

 

[JoeB131]

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

So you deny Mormonism was started by child molestors? Or that they spy on their ex-members. Or that they use their billions to play around in politics....

Oh, that doesn't count. I'm just a big meanie because I don't respect their fairy tales...

 

[squeeze berry]

No because there is no reason to be a birther--we have a birth certificate. So there is something else driving it at this point.

If I were to come to you and posit that blacks couldn't be QB's or Doctors or anything else, you'd call me a bigot because there is proof to the contrary. We have the contrarian proof.

If I were to reject the contrarian proof without reason, I'd be a racist. Thusly, birthers are racists by definition.

it's not a good enough reason to cry racist.

If someoen would state " he's black, so he needs to produce a birth certificate" I might agree.

But your argument is too thin. In fact, you are playing the race card.

Okay...The Governor said something to the effect of "Noone has asked me to produce my birth certificate." Why do you think that is?

At the end of the argument is, in fact, the birth certificate. So you tell me, what good reason does Gasbag, Stephanie, Warrior, Mudwhistle, Listening, etc still have for alleging his not being born in the US?

First of all Romney was making a joke. Obviously it went over your head.

Why do all those other forum members beleve that Obama may not have been born in the US?

Obviously you think you can read their minds. The mind reading always comes up racism. You use race to get your way.That is the very definition of playing the race card

In addition, Obama himself has sown seeds of doubt. So if you want to cast aspersion, blame Obama.

 

[Amazed]

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

So you deny Mormonism was started by child molestors? Or that they spy on their ex-members. Or that they use their billions to play around in politics....

Oh, that doesn't count. I'm just a big meanie because I don't respect their fairy tales...

I think your obsession with Child Molestation should give one pause....

Folks tend to scream the loudest when they feel guilty aabout doing something themselves...much like Jimmy Swaggart.

 

[GuyPinestra]

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

So you deny Mormonism was started by child molestors? Or that they spy on their ex-members. Or that they use their billions to play around in politics....

Oh, that doesn't count. I'm just a big meanie because I don't respect their fairy tales...

I think your obsession with Child Molestation should give one pause....

Folks tend to scream the loudest when they feel guilty aabout doing something themselves...much like Jimmy Swaggart.

Victim, perp or both...

 

[beretta304]

Klan Freakonomics: KKK Aligns With Obama On Pocketbook Issues? (Photos/Story by Jim Lo Scalzo) — BagNews

In a strange duality, Klan members rail against Obama’s race, yet infer support for the President’s economic policies by belittling GOP positions. It’s perhaps not so odd though, as KKK members have to feed their kids, pay for their clothes, save for weddings and go to the gas station, just like other Americans. Having taken these photos last summer in Southwestern Virginia, photojournalist Jim Lo Scalzo discusses the dollars-and-sense in his commentary below.

***** *** *****

If talking politics with members of the Ku Klux Klan seems certain to provoke cringes, then imagine my suprise at what several members confessed to me at a cross lighting last July: they supported President Obama in his budget battle with congressional Republicans.

I was several months into a photo project on the revival of the Klan in southwestern Virginia, and it wasn’t the first time that members strayed from script. (Weeks earlier, a Klan member emailed me of his excitement at visiting the Rosa Parks museum in Alabama. “…If you ever get an opportunity to tour it, do it,” he wrote. “It was great.&#8221. Their admissions seemed to provide fodder for an unlikely prospect: could the recent rise in KKK membership in Virginia be as much a result of Bush-era economic policies—which many economists believe contributed to the recession, and which House Republicans appeared set on maintaining—as of the ascendancy of a black man to the presidency?

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) and the Department of Homeland Security, there has been a genuine rise in right-wing extremism: since 2001, the number of hate groups across the country has nearly doubled. In fact, in 2011 their number rose beyond 1,000 for the first time since the SPLC has been keeping track. One oft-cited reason by the media is that there is an African American in the White House.



To be sure, racist vitriol against President Obama was a staple of Klan rallies I attended. Yet KKK members were just as likely to denounce the Hispanics they perceived as stealing their jobs, and the Jews they believed were controlling the country’s economic dials. Though their racial blame was vile trumpery, their economic concerns were not: like most working class members of rural counties, they bore the brunt of the economic downturn.

Even before the recession, this region’s economic health was precarious. Southwestern Virginia is in the heart of Appalachia, where myriad hollows limit infrastructure, which in turn limits economic development. Throw a sour economy and high unemployment into the mix and a person’s path to feeling pushed aside is all the more likely. Call it the freakonomics of white identity groups: in tough economic times more people turn to the Klan. Why? Because the Klan offers the economically disadvantaged three antidotes: companionship, something to be proud of, (their white race), and someone to blame.



Last summer’s budget battle between President Obama and congressional Republicans seemed to crystallize the economic clash as one between the haves and have-nots—a dynamic not lost on those I was photographing. Even if most Klan members did not admit siding with president Obama, they openly railed against Republican budget proposals, specifically the GOPs attempts to cut social programs like Medicaid and food stamps while maintaining tax breaks for the wealthy.

For once, my go-to line when Klan members asked my opinion of their views, “I don’t agree with what you have to say, but I do agree with your right to say it,” wasn’t necessary. In this case, I found their opinions worthy of consideration.

 

[daveman]

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I retracted the claim that you're currently asking me to prove.

Dumbass.

I know you did... it's the fact you made the claim to start with which is sooo hilarious, guy!

So why did you ask me yet again to prove a claim I'd already retracted, genius?

 

[daveman]

I've always been comfortable with it, just as soon as I realized just how crazy their beliefs were.

you see, my dislike of them is based on substance.

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

Yup, that's what bigots always say. "The object of my hatred deserves it!"

Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen...and JoeB. All the same.

 

[daveman]

Intrade has an Obama victory at 57.7 to 42.3.

The RCP Electoral Map has Obama winning 332 to 206

Nate Silver's 538 blog has Obama with a 73.1% chance of winning.

CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post

DENVER—Two University of Colorado professors have devised a model to predict who will win the presidential election under current economic circumstances. The victor, they say, will be Republican Mitt Romney.
The model uses economic indicators from all 50 states to predict the race's outcome. The forecast calls for Romney to win 320 electoral votes out of 538. It says Romney will also win virtually every state currently considered a swing state, including Colorado.
The professors who created the model, Ken Bickers from CU-Boulder and Michael Berry from CU-Denver, say it correctly forecast every winner of the electoral since 1980.


Read more: CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post CU forecasters predict a Romney presidency - The Denver Post
Read The Denver Post's Terms of Use of its content: Terms of Use - The Denver Post​

And twisting the knife:
Michael Moore Predicts ‘President Romney’ In November « CBS DC

He'd better hope so. He'll make more money under a Romney presidency.

So a model you've never heard of predicts a Romney presidency... yupppers, I know you guys are grasping at any straw.

The guy couldn't pull ahead during his own convention. Less people even watched the convention than watched it in 2008. And there were less people voting in the primaries than voted in 2008.

A model that correctly predicted each election for the last 32 years.

 

[daveman]

I think it's a pretty rational criticism.

Of course you do. So do skinheads. So do Klansmen. So do neo-Nazis.

You're in good company, aren't you?

Unless you are going down to the nearest Mormon Temple and signing up for your own set of magic underwear so you can learn the secret handshake and get to rule your own planet in the Celestial Heaven, you don't buy that shit any more than I do.

Like any typical leftist, you believe disagreement = hate.

I disagree with Mormons. I don't hate them like you do.

You really are driven by nothing but emotion.

No, it's simple logic. Crazy religious beliefs never end well.

Just ask the Branch Davidians or the People's temple. Cults are by their nature evil.

And they don't become less evil when they have a lot of money and some political influence.

Neo-Nazis, skinheads, Klansmen, and JoeB -- all say their irrational hatred is logical.

 

[JoeB131]

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

So you deny Mormonism was started by child molestors? Or that they spy on their ex-members. Or that they use their billions to play around in politics....

Oh, that doesn't count. I'm just a big meanie because I don't respect their fairy tales...

I think your obsession with Child Molestation should give one pause....

Folks tend to scream the loudest when they feel guilty aabout doing something themselves...much like Jimmy Swaggart.

How is pointing something out "obsession".

A guy starts a fake religion and then gets the less smart people in it to hand over their underage daughters...

These are the people who founded Mormomism... and it's contemptable.

 

[JoeB131]

Every fucking bigot like you thinks their irrational hatred is justified, you idiot.

Sorry, a cult started by child molestors deserves every ounce of hate they get...

Yup, that's what bigots always say. "The object of my hatred deserves it!"

Skinheads, Neo-Nazis, Klansmen...and JoeB. All the same.

Yawn....

Hating by race is wrong.

Hating by religion is a rational choice.

Unless you've signed up for your own set of magic underroos, you've rejected their bullshit as much as I have...

And if he wasn't your only chance to beat the black guy, you'd be just as against him.

Tell me true, Caveman. Romney wasn't your first pick, was he?

 

[JoeB131]

[

I retracted the claim that you're currently asking me to prove.

Dumbass.

I know you did... it's the fact you made the claim to start with which is sooo hilarious, guy!

So why did you ask me yet again to prove a claim I'd already retracted, genius?

I wasn't asking you. I was pointing out how you get things wrong because you're a racist moron...

I'm sorry, you don't think I'm really interested in your inbred opinion at this point, do you?

 

[squeeze berry]

I know you did... it's the fact you made the claim to start with which is sooo hilarious, guy!

So why did you ask me yet again to prove a claim I'd already retracted, genius?

I wasn't asking you. I was pointing out how you get things wrong because you're a racist moron...

I'm sorry, you don't think I'm really interested in your inbred opinion at this point, do you?

I'm interested in knowing why you used the term "inbred"

 

[JoeB131]

Pretty much describes people like him... Cleetus and Clem and the other idiots who keep bending over for the 1% they'll never join and say, "Well, at least he's right with Jesus!"

 

[JoeB131]

So you deny Mormonism was started by child molestors? Or that they spy on their ex-members. Or that they use their billions to play around in politics....

Oh, that doesn't count. I'm just a big meanie because I don't respect their fairy tales...

I think your obsession with Child Molestation should give one pause....

Folks tend to scream the loudest when they feel guilty aabout doing something themselves...much like Jimmy Swaggart.

Victim, perp or both...

Neither, but doesn't it strike you as odd that so much of that sort of stuff happens when Religions is involved?

Put on your thinking caps here... the Catholic Clergy abuse scandal, Joseph Smith and Brigham Young and his CHild Brides, David Koresh and his harem of underaged girls.

That's what happens when you surrender yourself to stupid people with imaginary friends in teh sky... pretty soon you are putting up with a lot.

When I grew up Catholic, we all knew the priests were funny and they kept moving them from one parish to another... and you never let yourself get caught in a room alone with one...

But, hey, they're working for "God", so that's okay, right?