wjmacguffin
Proud Liberal
How is comparing their income subjective? And who is wanting something for free? To me, it's Sevarin, who took advantage of all our nation has to offer and now wants to leave.And it EQUATES.. they also want to (and do) pay nothing and want the benefits of a free society... even MORESO as they get MORE freebies at the expense of others who do pay
NOBODY is too poor to pay taxes in a society that is supposedly based on equal treatment by government under law... your PERSONAL situation is your PERSONAL situation.. if you indeed have to work a second job to get by because you are now paying the same X% as everyone else, so be it
YOU say you cannot compare because of a SUBJECTIVE analysis of their situation and not an OBJECTIVE view of equality in treatment
Comparing the financial status of someone making $10,000/year and someone making $1,000,000/year is not equivalent.
Most people do not want to pay taxes. The original argument was that Sevarin wants the benefits of a free society but does not want to pay them. What was implied was this: Sevarin can easily pay his taxes. If you take $500,000 from Sevarin, he still has millions. If you take $1000 from a family under the poverty line, they are severely affected--many live paycheck to paycheck.
And with our economy the way it is, do you really think that it's as easy as "get a second job"?
Again... you are using the SUBJECTIVE view of analyzing their personal situation.... wanting something for free is wanting something for free
Because someone can afford more does not mean that they should pay more in a society based on equal treatment and freedom.... what next?? Charge the person who makes 100K $15 for a gallon of milk while you at $50K pay $4??
The problem with many is not finding a second or first job... it is their unwillingness to take the job they deem as 'lesser'... You drive to your local mall, Home Depot, local manufacturing business district or whatever and you will see plenty of jobs out there... I could walk down the street tomorrow if I lost my tech job and start as an assistant manager at Sheetz convenience store... I could get a bar-tending job at night at Charlestown Racetrack or the sports saloon in the next town over the river... I can go to the turkey farm down the street and clean stalls.. I can go to the aluminum plant near the school and start working custodial or even a night shift job on the line.... I, unlike others, am not too proud to do what it takes... and I, unlike others, do not expect others who do better to be forcibly coerced into taking care of my personal responsibilities or tax burdens for me... I do, however, expect everyone to be treated equally and hence everyone to pay the same rate on every dollar earned in federal income tax, etc, without exception because I believe in equal treatment by government under law
As for a "society based on equal treatment and freedom", see my earlier post. The impact of an "equal" tax rate is not equal treatment. And how does freedom enter into this? Or are you saying taxation is a violation of freedom?
As for folks not finding a single or second job, you are probably right in some cases. I can see low-wage jobs too, and while they are low-wage, low is better than none. But that's not the point of this thread, which is about Sevarin leaving because he doesn't want to pay taxes.