How to avoid taxes and bite the hand that cared for you.....

[Just another snapshot of a nation of equals where some are more equal than others. Here's more!]

"Only in Obama’s new America can:

1. Politicians talk about the greed of the rich at a $35,000 a plate campaign fund raising event.

2. People claim that the government still discriminates against black Americans when we have a black President, a black Attorney General, and roughly 18% of the federal workforce is black and only 12% of the population is black.

3. Could we have had the two people most responsible for our tax code, Timothy Geithner, the head of the Treasury Department and Charles Rangel who once ran the Ways and Means Committee, BOTH turn out to be tax cheats who are in favor of higher taxes.

4. We have terrorists kill people in the name of Allah and have the media primarily react by fretting that Muslims might be harmed by the backlash.

5. We make people who want to legally become American citizens wait for years in their home countries and pay tens of thousands of dollars for the privilege while we discuss letting anyone who sneaks into the country illegally just become American citizens.

6. The people who believe in balancing the federal budget and sticking by the country's Constitution be thought of as "extremists."

7. You vote without any Identification, but need an ID to cash a check, buy alcohol or cigarettes, gain access to government buildings etc.

8. Politicians demand the government investigate whether oil companies are gouging the public because the price of gas went up when the return on equity invested in a major U.S. oil company (Marathon Oil) is less than half of a company making tennis shoes (Nike)

9. Could the government collect more tax dollars from the people than any nation in recorded history, and still spend over a trillion dollars more than it took in every year since a President has been in office and still have the nerve to complain that the government still doesn’t have enough money.

10. The rich people who pay 86% of all income taxes be accused of not paying their "fair share" by people who don't pay any income taxes at all.

11. The President whose party constantly champions the separation of church and state, and therefore protests against such things as manger scenes in public, only in that America could that president then sign a law forcing churches to pay for things which are totally against their teachings, such as birth control.

12. A President whose core constituency used the phrase “Keep the government out of my uterus” in the pro-choice debate now sign a law that forces tax payers to pay for the government to implant birth control devices in those same uterus’.

13.We have a government that purposefully kills job creating enterprises such as the Keystone pipeline, then demagogues the issue by calling on those from the other party to "play fair" and extend unemployment benefits beyond 99 weeks.

14. We have politicians claim that extending unemployment benefits, stimulate job creation.

15. The President bemoan the fact that he too is wealthy and that his taxes should be raised and yet he takes every deduction he possibly can on his tax return."

Obama's America

how can a person get so many thing wrong in a lists?
 
The wealthy are tired of being abused for no good reason. One of the reasons they are leaving is because the government wants to mine their accomplishments without a good reason to do so. It's to support an increasingly bloated government, it's to support more and more people who simply don't want to be burdened with their own maintenance. The rich have been paying far more than a fair share, especially to those who pay no share at all. Now they are required to pay more, so that the size of government can be increased, so that the number of indolent can be increased. The fitting punishment for this government is to not only fail to get the raise in taxes, but no taxes at all.
 
Well we have 2 options here.

1.) Stomp our feet and pout about rich people being greedy.

2.) Figure out how to persuade them to keep their money here.

Seems like an easy choice, but obviously it isn't reading some of the posts on this thread.
 
Step 1: Seek political asylum in the US, and be granted citizenship when you're 18.

Step 2: Go to Ivy league school and invent a computer social network and call it Facebook.

Step 3: Move to Singapore (because they don't charge capital gains taxes).

Step 4: After finding out that you're going to be fabulously wealthy from your internet endeavor, renounce your citizenship and remain in Singapore.

EDUARDO Saverin, the billionaire co-founder of Facebook who fled to the US as a teenager to escape the threat of kidnapping, has renounced American citizenship to avoid millions of dollars in taxes when the company goes public this week.

The Brazilian-born Mr Saverin, 30, who has lived in Singapore since 2009, joins a growing number of people giving up US citizenship before a possible increase in tax rates for top earners, putting fresh pressure on President Obama to extend expiring tax breaks for the wealthy.

Mr Saverin appeared in a document published by the Internal Revenue Service on Friday listing Americans who had renounced their citizenship. His spokesman said that he made the move last September.

Mr Saverin is one of several students who helped Mark Zuckerberg to start Facebook at Harvard University ten years ago, putting up the cash to launch the fledgling social network. He acted as its first chief financial officer but was squeezed out of the company after an escalating fallout with Mr Zuckerberg.

His original wealth came from his father, an industrialist who fled to Miami with his family in 1993 after discovering that his son's name had appeared on a list of targets for gangs specialising in kidnap for ransom. Eduardo was granted US citizenship at the age of 18.

Facebook's offering values the company at $US96 billion. Mr Saverin's stake stands at 4 per cent, making it worth nearly $US4 billion and leaving him liable for as much as $US600 million in capital gains tax were he to remain a US citizen.

Mr Saverin's spokesman played down the timing of the move, suggesting that it had more to do with geography than any efforts to dodge taxes. Singapore has no capital gains tax, although US citizens are liable for the levy wherever they live.

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Not to mention, the other co-founder of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg is already working out a way to ALSO avoid paying his fair share of taxes.

And all this is happening just before Facebook goes public with it's IPO.

Isnt caplitalism great?

people can really make something of themselves in a capitalist society.

You do need to have some rules in place though to protect your caplitalistic country from getting fucked by assholes like this guy who dont love it enough to help build it after they sucked all the good they could find out of it.
 
Well we have 2 options here.

1.) Stomp our feet and pout about rich people being greedy.

2.) Figure out how to persuade them to keep their money here.

Seems like an easy choice, but obviously it isn't reading some of the posts on this thread.

I know how to keep their money here.

Make them pay taxes in a reasonable manner so you dont have to BEG and GIVE IN to their every threat on your society.

you know like " im going to leave if you make me pay for what I gained from your society"
 
Actually, no...........................................

I just hate those that have benefited from this country who later refuse to pay their fair share.

I mean fuck dude....................we bailed this asshole out of his own country because he was being targeted, gave the fucker U.S. Citizenship, and now that he's made a lot of money from an idea DEVELOPED HERE IN THE UNITED STATES, he decides that he doesn't want to pay taxes, so he moves to Singapore and renounces his citizenship.

I mean fuck dude.........................would YOU allow someone to use the resouces of this country, only to run out on the check when it came due?

You guys and this "Their Fair Share" BS. Man you make me sick. Simply by Helping Create Face book the man is responsible for More Tax income to the Government, and Economic Activity. Then you would be in a 1000 years. So SHUT THE FUCK UP.

The Rich are not leaving because they don't want to pay their fair share. You fucking ingrate liberal asshole. They are leaving because they already pay the FUCKING LIONS share of all Taxes, and you FUCKING ASSHOLES say it's not enough.

If I had that much money, I would get the Fuck out of here too. Not to save money, But to escape the Coming Slaughter when you fucking Left wing Loons rise up and start taking heads in your Obama Induced Class Warfare Rage.

Seriously I mean I usually try and Remain Calm and Civil, and I am NOT Rich. But you people make me want to fucking Puke. You Demonize, and Lie about the Very People who have Created the Wealth that made this Nation the Richest and most Powerful nation on Earth. Innovators like Face Book. They don't take something from others. They Create Wealth. When Their IPO hit BILLIONS of Dollars came into Existence. Share of Stock that Millions Bought and Own and will all PAY FUCKING Taxes on. All Because of People like this guy.

You people have Destroyed the American Dream. You have Destroyed the Engine that Created it. You have made it a shameful thing to succeed, and become Rich. The very thing that Made us.

Frankly I hope you enjoy the Broke ass, Shell of a Country that's left once you get your way. I assure you I wont be here anymore to see it. I rather go hang with my Canadian Friends than watch this Great Nations succumb to Your Failed Ideas like so many Before it.

You're an idiot.

The guy is renouncing his citizenship, to the extent it's because of taxes, because he wants to pay ZERO in taxes.

The only way the US could compete with that is to let him pay ZERO in taxes.

Now tell me, what would we gain by doing that?

That's not so. He's quite willing to pay (and will pay) what taxes he legitimately owes. It's the increased taxes that he's avoiding.

Saverin doesn't live here. He hasn't lived here since 2009. Not only taxes, but brand new FATCA regulations are hurting every American citizen that resides elsewhere. The more punishing the US gets, the more individuals will avoid that punishment by leaving. Rather than rail against those who leave, no one is asking why we have become so punishing to people that they just want to get away.
 
That's not so. He's quite willing to pay (and will pay) what taxes he legitimately owes. It's the increased taxes that he's avoiding.

Saverin doesn't live here. He hasn't lived here since 2009. Not only taxes, but brand new FATCA regulations are hurting every American citizen that resides elsewhere. The more punishing the US gets, the more individuals will avoid that punishment by leaving. Rather than rail against those who leave, no one is asking why we have become so punishing to people that they just want to get away.

2) A heavy progressive or graduated income tax.

4) Confiscation of the property of all emigrants and rebels.

~Communist Manifesto
 
Well we have 2 options here.

1.) Stomp our feet and pout about rich people being greedy.

2.) Figure out how to persuade them to keep their money here.

Seems like an easy choice, but obviously it isn't reading some of the posts on this thread.

I know how to keep their money here.

Make them pay taxes in a reasonable manner so you dont have to BEG and GIVE IN to their every threat on your society.

you know like " im going to leave if you make me pay for what I gained from your society"

What you're babbling about is what we already have, and these people still work around paying their taxes.

Just like you or I would if we had the ability to get around it.
 
You guys and this "Their Fair Share" BS. Man you make me sick. Simply by Helping Create Face book the man is responsible for More Tax income to the Government, and Economic Activity. Then you would be in a 1000 years. So SHUT THE FUCK UP.

The Rich are not leaving because they don't want to pay their fair share. You fucking ingrate liberal asshole. They are leaving because they already pay the FUCKING LIONS share of all Taxes, and you FUCKING ASSHOLES say it's not enough.

If I had that much money, I would get the Fuck out of here too. Not to save money, But to escape the Coming Slaughter when you fucking Left wing Loons rise up and start taking heads in your Obama Induced Class Warfare Rage.

Seriously I mean I usually try and Remain Calm and Civil, and I am NOT Rich. But you people make me want to fucking Puke. You Demonize, and Lie about the Very People who have Created the Wealth that made this Nation the Richest and most Powerful nation on Earth. Innovators like Face Book. They don't take something from others. They Create Wealth. When Their IPO hit BILLIONS of Dollars came into Existence. Share of Stock that Millions Bought and Own and will all PAY FUCKING Taxes on. All Because of People like this guy.

You people have Destroyed the American Dream. You have Destroyed the Engine that Created it. You have made it a shameful thing to succeed, and become Rich. The very thing that Made us.

Frankly I hope you enjoy the Broke ass, Shell of a Country that's left once you get your way. I assure you I wont be here anymore to see it. I rather go hang with my Canadian Friends than watch this Great Nations succumb to Your Failed Ideas like so many Before it.

You're an idiot.

The guy is renouncing his citizenship, to the extent it's because of taxes, because he wants to pay ZERO in taxes.

The only way the US could compete with that is to let him pay ZERO in taxes.

Now tell me, what would we gain by doing that?

That's not so. He's quite willing to pay (and will pay) what taxes he legitimately owes. It's the increased taxes that he's avoiding.

Saverin doesn't live here. He hasn't lived here since 2009. Not only taxes, but brand new FATCA regulations are hurting every American citizen that resides elsewhere. The more punishing the US gets, the more individuals will avoid that punishment by leaving. Rather than rail against those who leave, no one is asking why we have become so punishing to people that they just want to get away.

How exactly do you know what he's willing to do or not do?
 
Is the new Con Chant going to be Bank account first, party second and country third?
 
Step 1: Seek political asylum in the US, and be granted citizenship when you're 18.

Step 2: Go to Ivy league school and invent a computer social network and call it Facebook.

Step 3: Move to Singapore (because they don't charge capital gains taxes).

Step 4: After finding out that you're going to be fabulously wealthy from your internet endeavor, renounce your citizenship and remain in Singapore.

EDUARDO Saverin, the billionaire co-founder of Facebook who fled to the US as a teenager to escape the threat of kidnapping, has renounced American citizenship to avoid millions of dollars in taxes when the company goes public this week.

The Brazilian-born Mr Saverin, 30, who has lived in Singapore since 2009, joins a growing number of people giving up US citizenship before a possible increase in tax rates for top earners, putting fresh pressure on President Obama to extend expiring tax breaks for the wealthy.

Mr Saverin appeared in a document published by the Internal Revenue Service on Friday listing Americans who had renounced their citizenship. His spokesman said that he made the move last September.

Mr Saverin is one of several students who helped Mark Zuckerberg to start Facebook at Harvard University ten years ago, putting up the cash to launch the fledgling social network. He acted as its first chief financial officer but was squeezed out of the company after an escalating fallout with Mr Zuckerberg.

His original wealth came from his father, an industrialist who fled to Miami with his family in 1993 after discovering that his son's name had appeared on a list of targets for gangs specialising in kidnap for ransom. Eduardo was granted US citizenship at the age of 18.

Facebook's offering values the company at $US96 billion. Mr Saverin's stake stands at 4 per cent, making it worth nearly $US4 billion and leaving him liable for as much as $US600 million in capital gains tax were he to remain a US citizen.

Mr Saverin's spokesman played down the timing of the move, suggesting that it had more to do with geography than any efforts to dodge taxes. Singapore has no capital gains tax, although US citizens are liable for the levy wherever they live.
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Not to mention, the other co-founder of Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg is already working out a way to ALSO avoid paying his fair share of taxes.

And all this is happening just before Facebook goes public with it's IPO.

Isnt caplitalism great?

people can really make something of themselves in a capitalist society.

You do need to have some rules in place though to protect your caplitalistic country from getting fucked by assholes like this guy who dont love it enough to help build it after they sucked all the good they could find out of it.
That's not Capitalism, it's Globalism. He has no allegiance to any country. He's a Globalist.

Now you know why you must resist all talk of everyone just being "Global Citizens".
 
I say fuck em.

Take you dead ass somewhere else if you love your HUGE FUCKING PILES OF CASH more thasn you love this country
 
Why do liberals measure how much you love your country by how much you pay in taxes?
 
We've lowered taxes on the Rich repeatedly now for decades. Has the country gotten better? Is the job situation better? Is job opportunity better? Is our fiscal situation better? Is the American working class doing better? Is the American middle class doing better?

When, exactly, do all the benefits of lowering taxes on the Rich begin to appear for those who are not among the Rich?
 
I say fuck em.

Take you dead ass somewhere else if you love your HUGE FUCKING PILES OF CASH more thasn you love this country

A billionaire who invests in american banks gives those banks the ability to give millions of average joes a car loan, a mortgage or a home equity line.

One of these days you idiots will understand that basic aspect of the economy.
 

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