How the US Shattered the Middle East (and Why)

[thanatos144]

It's safe to say that the United States causes more terror in the world and more death of innocent civilians than every Islamist terror group in existence. Trying to explain this to a Trump loyalist is like trying to teach a monkey Algebra.

Then stop attacking us . People who hate the USA are jealous or spoiled little bitches.

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[harmonica]

the ME has been a shithole--just one step above Africa

 

[Kondor3]

[ ...So why does the US have invaded, regime changed.and bomb multiple countries in the middle east ?
Helped Israel with weapons, logistics, intelligence, money, shooting down UN resolutions and even condemnations against israel.
Got involved in Lebanon in the 50's and then the 80s
Invaded Iraq
Weakened Syria
Bombed Sudan
Bombed lybia
Involved in Yemen
Had dozens of military bases in the region And backs dictators in most Arab countries.

Because your so-called copy-cat religion warrior-cult is a cancer upon the face of the earth and required a surgeon's knife?

 

[Kondor3]

Those Arab camel- and goat-buggerers managed most of that on their own...

They hate you. With reason.

Hell, bottom-line, "they" hate everyone who doesn't worship or think like them... that's nothing new... that's 1,400 -year-old information.

Or, given your apparent empathy with that cancerous blemish upon the earth... perhaps, I should say "you" rather than "they"... eh, Abdul?

 

[Kondor3]

...

What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism?

Ah, yes... the Neville Chamberlain branch of Judaism...

Children riding on the shoulders of giants...

Safe from the concentration camps and gas chambers and ovens and vicious Arab-Muslim neighbors...

For a while, anyway...

Able to afford their treason against their co-religionists...

Jealous of the Jews in Israel who found their balls after 2000 years of slaughter and persecution...

Unable to match their courage and reduced to silly, simpering, sissy-boy emoti-memes designed to undercut the best of their people...

The kind who would have sheepishly surrendered their freedom and trudged into the cattle-cars without firing a shot...

Baaaa... baaaa... baaaa....

 

[LordBrownTrout]

...

What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism?

Ah, yes... the Neville Chamberlain branch of Judaism...

Children riding on the shoulders of giants...

Safe from the concentration camps and gas chambers and ovens and vicious Arab-Muslim neighbors...

Able to afford their treason to their co-religionists...

Jealous of the Jews in Israel who found their balls after 2000 years of slaughter and persecution...

Unable to match their courage, and reduced to silly, simpering, sissy-boy emoti-memes designed to undercut the best of their people...

The kind who would have sheepishly surrendered their freedom and trudged into the cattle-cars without firing a shot...

Baaaa... baaaa... baaaa....

Yes, exactly.

 

[sparky]

The U.S military has morphed into a private mercenary army which is engaged in dismantling the Middle East to further the zionist agenda of creating a Greater Israel. ..

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

https://www.history.com/news/fdr-saudi-arabia-king-oil

“Secretary of the Interior, Harold Ickes, saw Saudi oil and the national security/welfare of the U.S. as umbilically linked and even proposed that the federal government establish direct control over all oil resources owned by American companies in Saudi Arabia,” Montgomery says.

~S~

 

[Kondor3]

The U.S military has morphed into a private mercenary army which is engaged in dismantling the Middle East to further the zionist agenda of creating a Greater Israel. ..

It's just more convenient to blame America than it is to look long and hard and honestly in the mirror for the true cause of their problems.

https://www.history.com/news/fdr-saudi-arabia-king-oil

“Secretary of the Interior, Harold Ickes, saw Saudi oil and the national security/welfare of the U.S. as umbilically linked and even proposed that the federal government establish direct control over all oil resources owned by American companies in Saudi Arabia,” Montgomery says.

~S~

Some half-assed 'proposal' stretching-back 75-80 years is not evidence of either historical nor present policy.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Georgie wants to complete the mission of the Holocaust and kill us all. He is just too chicken to come out and state as such.

Have you ever asked yourself why evangelicals want Israel to prevail ? And what will happen to the Jews when the messiah comes back if they dont convert ?
Also please tell US what the jews think of jesus or Christianity?

Nope and I have zero interest in having a religious discussion with a devout Muslim extremist.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

War is good for America.

Holy Christ! What is it with you people and your foaming-at-the-mouth blood lust? You ever consider maybe joining humanity, you fucking monster?

Says the Holocaust denier. The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

 

[Terri4Trump]

Thats the problem with Jew-hating antisemite pigs like you: In your hateful ignorance you post shit that PROVES you are a liar.
ABSOLUTELY NO Hassidic Jew would EVER hold up a sign like that. That is a posed fake photo. They might as well be holding signs that say I Heart Hitler.

Nobody wants to hear your Nazi antisemitic filth.

There is no Palestine!

 

[georgephillip]

...

What's the difference between anti-Semitism and anti-Zionism?

Ah, yes... the Neville Chamberlain branch of Judaism...

Children riding on the shoulders of giants...

Safe from the concentration camps and gas chambers and ovens and vicious Arab-Muslim neighbors...

For a while, anyway...

Able to afford their treason against their co-religionists...

Jealous of the Jews in Israel who found their balls after 2000 years of slaughter and persecution...

Unable to match their courage and reduced to silly, simpering, sissy-boy emoti-memes designed to undercut the best of their people...

The kind who would have sheepishly surrendered their freedom and trudged into the cattle-cars without firing a shot...

Baaaa... baaaa... baaaa....

ealous of the Jews in Israel who found their balls after 2000 years of slaughter and persecution...

Unable to match their courage and reduced to silly, simpering, sissy-boy emoti-memes designed to undercut the best of their people...

Jealous of kosher killers who brag about killing the children of those who've had their land and water stolen by rapacious Jews and other illiterate invertebrates constantly conflating Zionism with heroism.

IDF Sniper Brags about Killing 13 Children

 

[georgephillip]

Thats the problem with Jew-hating antisemite pigs like you: In your hateful ignorance you post shit that PROVES you are a liar.
ABSOLUTELY NO Hassidic Jew would EVER hold up a sign like that. That is a posed fake photo. They might as well be holding signs that say I Heart Hitler.

Nobody wants to hear your Nazi antisemitic filth.

There is no Palestine!

Thats the problem with Jew-hating antisemite pigs like you: In your hateful ignorance you post shit that PROVES you are a liar.
ABSOLUTELY NO Hassidic Jew would EVER hold up a sign like that. That is a posed fake photo. They might as well be holding signs that say I Heart Hitler.

Nobody wants to hear your Nazi antisemitic filth.

I would suspect you of being hasbara except you are too stupid and ignorant to be Jewish.

Fifty Years of Israeli Occupation | The Institute for Palestine Studies

 

[georgephillip]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?........

Oh please. As people on both sides of the aisle always say, those people have been fighting and making war forever. Their sectarianism is the real cause of their strife.

But if you want to focus on actions of the West, look at how fake countries were created out of whole cloth. The country today known as Iraq was a region of the Ottoman Empire until the partition of the Ottoman Empire in the 20th century by the British, who then administered the area. And Iran? Iran's history is so chaotic that its almost too hard to follow.

And don't get me started on Palestinians. They are a fiction.There is no Palestine and never was, and we did not create those terrorists.

The poor Kurds have been in their terrible fix long before we came on the scene.

NOPE, sorry, there is no way that America is responsible for their mess.

And don't get me started on Palestinians. They are a fiction.There is no Palestine and never was, and we did not create those terrorists.

"The 1948 Palestinian exodus, also known as the Nakba (Arabic... al-Nakbah, literally 'disaster', 'catastrophe', or 'cataclysm'),[1] occurred when more than 700,000 Palestinian Arabs — about half of prewar Palestine's Arab population — fled or were expelled from their homes, during the 1948 Palestine war.[2]

"Between 400 and 600 Palestinian villages were sacked during the war, while urban Palestine was almost entirely extinguished."

What makes you think Jews were entitled to steal the homes, businesses, and bank accounts of more than 700,000 non-Jews in PALESTINE?

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia

Personal responsibility- good for people, good for countries

Personal responsibility- good for people, good for countries

Good for greedy Jews who launched mortar attacks on civilians in order to steal Arab land and bank accounts?

1948 Palestinian exodus - Wikipedia

"The Haganah mortar attacks of 21–22 April [on Haifa] were primarily designed to break Arab morale in order to bring about a swift collapse of resistance and speedy surrender. [...] But clearly the offensive, and especially the mortaring, precipitated the exodus.

"The three-inch mortars 'opened up on the market square [where there was] a great crowd [...] a great panic took hold. The multitude burst into the port, pushed aside the policemen, charged the boats and began to flee the town', as the official Haganah history later put it.'[7]:191, 200 According to Pappé,[16]:96 this mortar barrage was deliberately aimed at civilians to precipitate their flight from Haifa."

 

[Issa]

Georgie wants to complete the mission of the Holocaust and kill us all. He is just too chicken to come out and state as such.

Have you ever asked yourself why evangelicals want Israel to prevail ? And what will happen to the Jews when the messiah comes back if they dont convert ?
Also please tell US what the jews think of jesus or Christianity?

Nope and I have zero interest in having a religious discussion with a devout Muslim extremist.

Lol you are worried of exposing yourself and your friends intentions?

 

[Rigby5]

The U.S military has morphed into a private mercenary army which is engaged in dismantling the Middle East to further the zionist agenda of creating a Greater Israel. ...

Why are Arabs such weenies and can’t beat Israel?

Foolish question if you knew anything about the Mideast.
In 1948, Israel was given all the latest weapons of war left over from WWII, such as B-17 bomber, P-51 Mustang fighters, M-4 Sherman tanks, etc.
The British had always prevented the Arabs from having arms, so they only had relics from WWI.
The Mideast countries with all the oil money and ability to buy weapons, like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, etc., never were involved in any war. It was just Egypt, Syria, Lebanon, and Jordan, the poorest Mideast countries, and the countries that only recently gained independence themselves, so had no weapons.
And we give Israel over $5 billion a year in the latest weapons, so there is no way any of the poor neighbors to Palestine can ever hope to take on the invading aggressor.

 

[whitehall]

It's true that Libya posed no threat to it's neighbors or the U.S. when the Hussein administration used NATO in "Op-Freedom Falcon" to destabilize the area and the power vacuum ushered in the Jihad maniacs. I think Brennan was in charge of the CIA at the time and the media voiced no complaint typically during democrat administrations.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Who says the US has shattered the Middle East?
Glad you asked:

How the U.S. Shattered the Middle East

"Maj. Danny Sjursen is a retired U.S. Army officer and former history instructor at West Point. He served tours with reconnaissance units in Iraq and Afghanistan..."

The major believes War is a Racket

"Let us take an ever-so-brief tour of Washington’s two-decade history of utterly rupturing Greater Mideast nation-states and splintering an already fractious region. Here goes, from West to East, in an admittedly noncomprehensive list.

"U.S. airstrikes and regime change policy in Libya has unleashed an ongoing civil war, divided the country between at least two warlords, and enabled arms and militiamen to cross the southern border and destabilize West Africa.

"Which means that Niger, Libya, Cameroon, Mali, Chad and Nigeria have seen their shared territory around Lake Chad become a disputed region, contested by a newly empowered array of Islamists.

"That, of course, led the U.S. military to plop a few thousand troops in these countries.

"That deployment is unlikely to end well."

However, that may well depend on your definition of the word "well."

"The whole absurd mess boils down to a treacherous math problem of sorts.

"By my simple accounting, a region from Nigeria to Afghanistan that once counted about 22 state entities has—since the onset of the U.S. 'terror wars'—broken into some 37 autonomous, sometimes hardly governed, zones.

"According to the 'experts,' that should mean total disaster and increased danger to the homeland.

"Yet it’s largely U.S. military policy and intervention itself that’s caused this fracture.

"So isn’t it high time to quit the American combat missions?

"Not according to the mainstream policymakers and pundits.

"For them, the war must (always) go on!

Counterproductivity seems the essence of U.S. military policy in Uncle Sam’s never-ending, post-9/11 wars.

"Call me crazy, or wildly conspiratorial, but after serving in two hopelessly absurd wars and studying the full scope of American military action, it seems that maybe that was the idea all along.

Trump killed Qaddafi?

Wow.

Is this like when the "Parties switched sides"?

 

[Rigby5]

The U.S military has morphed into a private mercenary army which is engaged in dismantling the Middle East to further the zionist agenda of creating a Greater Israel. ...

1. How has the US military become "private" as opposed to one of the American people ?

2. Aren't you completely overlooking the national security aspects of US military policy in the Middle east ? Such as defense against ISIS, al Qaeda, etc, here in the US ?

1. The US military has become private because it no longer relies on citizen soldier or the draft, and instead uses paid mercenaries who think of the military as a career and a paycheck.
That means they do what ever those who sign their paycheck tell them to do.
That is how we invaded Iraq even though they were totally innocent and the WMD claims by the military were all lies.
A public military of drafted citizens would never have stood for that, and there would have been a mutiny.
But the military learned from Vietnam, so when they want to illegally invade an innocent country, they won't use the draft any more.

2. The claim of defense against ISIS, al Qaeda, etc., is silly. The CIA created al Qaeda in 1979, as the Arab foreign legion of volunteer to fight in Afghanistan as part of the Mujaheddin. Bin Laden was to young to be the leader then, but he was there, recruited by the US. Al Qaeda was not bin Laden's organization but was created by the CIA, and the name is just the Pashto translation of the phrase, "base camp", so that the Arabs could ask how to get back to camp if they got lost.
Almost none of al Qaeda ever knew about or were involved in any attacks on the US.
ISIS is even more suspicious.
While ISIS was not overtly created by the CIA like al Qaeda was, all the leader ship of ISIS came from US POW camps in Iraq. They were all secular Sunni. They have no religious connections at all. So then why is ISIS suddenly making religious claims they clearly do not believe in, and where did they get all those weapons and new Toyota trucks just after being released from prison by the US? An example of how un-Islamic ISIS is, just remember that they burned alive that captured Jordanian pilot. Well it is well known that Islam does NOT at all allow for cremation. No Muslim would ever have done that. And there is no a single Muslim cleric supporting ISIS. They have ZERO Islamic connection.
The claim we have to fight then there or fight them here is just nonsense.
Fighting them there is the only way to ensure we will eventually have to fight them here.
We are giving them no other choice.
They never attacked us, but now the whole Mideast is very angry about the abuses and crimes we have committed.
Remember that we murdered over half a million innocent Iraqis, about a quarter million innocent Afghans, and tried to force regime change in Libya, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Lebanon, Iran, etc.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

It's true that Libya posed no threat to it's neighbors or the U.S. when the Hussein administration used NATO in "Op-Freedom Falcon" to destabilize the area and the power vacuum ushered in the Jihad maniacs. I think Brennan was in charge of the CIA at the time and the media voiced no complaint typically during democrat administrations.

Soros ordered his sock puppet Obama to destabilize the ME and create the Islamification of the EU