How society benefits from banning same-sex marriage

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    I am going to answer this again...this time without the joke.

    Some same traditional marriage is the LIFE LONG union of a man and woman.

    With divorce rates at nearly 50%, the defintion of marriage has already been changed. The divorce rate proves that marriage has a "flexible" definition at best. But lets say we dont redefine our defintion but instead redefine our VIEW of the definition.

    Redefining our VIEW of marriage to include same sex couples is simply not that big of a deal.

    How about The LIFE LONG union of two consenting adults?
     
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    Needless to say, unless one has engaged in a same-sex marriage, they really have no idea what they're talking about.

    This is the United States and we fight for equal rights for ALL Americans. Even those with whom we disagree.
     
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    An union of two consenting adults as marriage is a great definition.

    Same sex couples should have the same trial and tribulation of traditionally married couples.

    However, no one should think that somehow polygamy, polyandry, and polymory will somehow not be part of the issues involved with the redefinition of marriage.

     
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    Key word - "consenting"

    Beyond that, its no one elses business.

    Never mind that "traditional" man/woman marriage has become a sad joke in our country. They demand "forever" marriage from same sex couples but can't deliver that themselves.

    If "traditional" marriage is what we're supposed to aspire to, it leaves a lot to desire. As soon as hetero-marriage is perfect, THEN they can make the rules for everyone else. Until then, they need to understand that same sex marriage is NONE OF THEIR BUSINESS.
     
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    To me the issue is very simple... Individuals have rights. Groups or "Society" at large do not have rights greater than the sum of their individual members. For something to benefit society, it must benefit one or more individuals. For something to hurt society, it must harm one or more individuals.

    A gay marriage or a civil unions would benefit some individuals and would not harm any individuals. If one wants to make an argument at a collectivist level, they must prove that gay marriage harms some individuals.
     
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    Since when did the world act accordingly to what the Bible says? Never. The first law of Christianity is love,not hate.
     
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    Again, all that matters is whether or not the "union" is consensual.Whether is nutso Mittens or the monster, Jeff Warrens, all that really matters is if its a consensual union between ADULTS.

    If so, its no one elses business.

    Really. The R needs to stop meddling in other people's business.
     
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    luddly what your or I think does not matter.

    Yes, multiple partner marriages will be an issue, whether you think they should or not.
     
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    Yabut, that's not the first law of "Christians".
     
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    This is true, but why do so many Christians ignore this, and spend most of their time judging and condemning others?
     

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