How should the U.S. deal with illegal Immigration?

[gallantwarrior]

So many people stream across our border illegally and our government struggles to do any thing about it.

So obviously it needs fixing.
What are some ideas you all have as to how they could fix it?

I think we should treat it the same way they do area 51, post signs in every language that state if you get within a certain distance you'll be shot. Only an desperate idiot or a terrorist would try to cross with those signs up. We could build sniper towers and post highly trained special opps to patrol our border. I am not saying each and every person trying to cross would die, but if they didn't listen to reason they would get an arm or a leg blown off.

We should start by adopting the same exact immigration laws applied by Mexico to those who illegally cross their borders...then enforce them diligently.

 

[gallantwarrior]

Public hangings of illegal immigrants would be quite a deterrent....

This one drew a huge crowd!! Rainey Bathea was the last man hung in America...that was 1936.

In the days before cable TV, public hangings were da bomb! Whole family came, packed a lunch...

 

[gallantwarrior]

Not only this, but illegals do jobs that Americans won't do - at that wage. .

You don't even understand what you wrote there, do you? That's sad.

Sounds a little unclear, maybe, but it's understandable. There is no doubt that the average American would do some back-breaking fruit-picking. But they won't do so at the wage that an illegal will. I write that because it's not entirely correct when people say they do "Americans won't do." They will do them, but only at a higher - and likely uncompetitive - wage.

Feel free to respond to the rest of my post.

Take away government support so that not working means not eating and you'd see a big change in what Americans would, or would not do for whatever wage they could get.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

I have a 3 point plan for getting illegal aliens out of the country.

Point 1. If you are here illegally, you will be escorted to the border and told that you are here illegally and you must leave and not come back. If you are caught again in this country illegally, it will be more difficult for you.

Point 2. If you are found in this country a second time illegally, you will be escorted to the border and carried back across the border on a stretcher due to your injuries. You will be warned that if you are found in this country illegally again, things will be more difficult for you. You will be sternly warned to not come back.

Point 3. If you are found in this country a 3rd time illegally, you will be escorted back across the border in a body bag. You will be told "Rest in Peace".

I believe that this policy would work.

And you would be wrong.

you won't get any further than "point 1" because if it were possible to simply 'round them up and send them packing', it would have been done a long time ago.

I lived in Tucson for more than 25 years. This is not a simple question although it helps that President Obama has deported more than any other president and that he has put more Border Patrol and National Guard on the border than any other president. Or, for that matter, than McCain or Kyl ever authorized. They both have fought against securing hte border. Read their records and you'll see what I mean.

Current laws are being enforced. Go on a ride along with Border Patrol and you'll quickly see the problems.

Very few workers are coming across now because we don't have the jobs for them. Many have gone home. That's why small American family farmers are going broke but why huge corporation farms are doing very well. Its what the R's want.

Marijuana still comes across and there really is no way to stop it - except if the US stops buying it.

Meanwhile, we have three open borders where, if not for President Obama's reworking of Homeland Security, we'd be inundated with terrorists.

R's want us to believe that Mexicans are THE problem.

They're not.

Don't be so gullible.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

You don't even understand what you wrote there, do you? That's sad.

Sounds a little unclear, maybe, but it's understandable. There is no doubt that the average American would do some back-breaking fruit-picking. But they won't do so at the wage that an illegal will. I write that because it's not entirely correct when people say they do "Americans won't do." They will do them, but only at a higher - and likely uncompetitive - wage.

Feel free to respond to the rest of my post.

Take away government support so that not working means not eating and you'd see a big change in what Americans would, or would not do for whatever wage they could get.

I don't care to wade through the pissing contest but if you mean support for illegals, you might want to do a little research.

According to the rw's, illegals get everything from a new Rolls to a home with a swimming pool. As with most things, the rw's are wrong about this too.

If you mean American citizens, you're also wrong but I know this is a pet cause for rw's. They won't be happy until every poor child in the country has starved to death cuz by gawd, that'll teach 'em to pull themselves up by their boot straps.

 

[IndependntLogic]

Wikipedia? LOL, just as I thought...


...and even your 'wiki-expert' source does not support your failed analysis.


Trust me, you are wrong.

I just posted a link to the first thing that came up. It was my hope to teach you to write like someone who speaks English as a first language but ala, it shall not be. Some people are stupid. They're the ones who look smart when compared to you.

So okay Junior, you're absolutely right! <pat on head> You're cute little 30+ word sentence was not a run-on! Oh no!

 

[freedombecki]

So many people stream across our border illegally and our government struggles to do any thing about it.

So obviously it needs fixing.
What are some ideas you all have as to how they could fix it?

I think we should treat it the same way they do area 51, post signs in every language that state if you get within a certain distance you'll be shot. Only an desperate idiot or a terrorist would try to cross with those signs up. We could build sniper towers and post highly trained special opps to patrol our border. I am not saying each and every person trying to cross would die, but if they didn't listen to reason they would get an arm or a leg blown off.

let them come. If they pass a background check for no criminal record (other than being here illegally, or using a SSN for employment purposes only) let them stay. I'm good with that.

Are you good with the rule of law?

 

[IndependntLogic]

So many people stream across our border illegally and our government struggles to do any thing about it.

So obviously it needs fixing.
What are some ideas you all have as to how they could fix it?

I think we should treat it the same way they do area 51, post signs in every language that state if you get within a certain distance you'll be shot. Only an desperate idiot or a terrorist would try to cross with those signs up. We could build sniper towers and post highly trained special opps to patrol our border. I am not saying each and every person trying to cross would die, but if they didn't listen to reason they would get an arm or a leg blown off.

let them come. If they pass a background check for no criminal record (other than being here illegally, or using a SSN for employment purposes only) let them stay. I'm good with that.

Are you good with the rule of law?

Actually, I'm a seriel criminal. I speed all the friggin time. It's the car's fault. I swear you can be going 150 mph and feel like you're doing 50. Of course, it's a big ol' sedan so I don't drive like that but I usually drive 5 - 10 mph over the limit several times a day.

 

[freedombecki]

let them come. If they pass a background check for no criminal record (other than being here illegally, or using a SSN for employment purposes only) let them stay. I'm good with that.

Are you good with the rule of law?

Actually, I'm a seriel criminal. I speed all the friggin time. It's the car's fault. I swear you can be going 150 mph and feel like you're doing 50. Of course, it's a big ol' sedan so I don't drive like that but I usually drive 5 - 10 mph over the limit several times a day.

IOW, no?

 

[IndependntLogic]

Are you good with the rule of law?

Actually, I'm a seriel criminal. I speed all the friggin time. It's the car's fault. I swear you can be going 150 mph and feel like you're doing 50. Of course, it's a big ol' sedan so I don't drive like that but I usually drive 5 - 10 mph over the limit several times a day.

IOW, no?

LOL! Do you EVER lighten up a bit there sweetheart? Okay, fine then. I'm not good with the rule of EVERY law. And neither are you, btw.

 

[Unkotare]

If you mean American citizens, you're also wrong but I know this is a pet cause for rw's. They won't be happy until every poor child in the country has starved to death cuz by gawd, that'll teach 'em to pull themselves up by their boot straps.

More hyper-partisan bullshit from a far-left shill. What a surprise.

 

[Unkotare]

Wikipedia? LOL, just as I thought...


...and even your 'wiki-expert' source does not support your failed analysis.


Trust me, you are wrong.

I just posted a link to the first thing that came up. It was my hope to teach you to write like someone who speaks English as a first language but ala, it shall not be. Some people are stupid. They're the ones who look smart when compared to you.

So okay Junior, you're absolutely right! <pat on head> You're cute little 30+ word sentence was not a run-on! Oh no!

Thanks for proving once again that you don't know what you are talking about. A run-on sentence has nothing to do with the number of words in the sentence, idiot. You make yourself look especially foolish when you try to play the expert on something you obviously do not understand. Better look for a new angle, because this one really isn't working for you.

 

[Unkotare]

let them come. If they pass a background check for no criminal record (other than being here illegally, or using a SSN for employment purposes only) let them stay. I'm good with that.

Are you good with the rule of law?

Actually, I'm a seriel [sic] criminal. I speed all the friggin time. It's the car's fault. I swear you can be going 150 mph and feel like you're doing 50. Of course, it's a big ol' sedan so I don't drive like that but I usually drive 5 - 10 mph over the limit several times a day.

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If you need me to teach you English, just ask. You couldn't afford me, and I wouldn't waste my time on a stupid asshole like you, but you could still ask.

 

[IndependntLogic]

Are you good with the rule of law?

Actually, I'm a seriel [sic] criminal. I speed all the friggin time. It's the car's fault. I swear you can be going 150 mph and feel like you're doing 50. Of course, it's a big ol' sedan so I don't drive like that but I usually drive 5 - 10 mph over the limit several times a day.

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If you need me to teach you English, just ask. You couldn't afford me, and I wouldn't waste my time on a stupid asshole like you, but you could still ask.

Ah the typo... Okay junior. Time to let the cat out of the bag. I've just been f*ckin with you! As if I take you seriously!
Or did you really think I considered myself a serial criminal because I break the speed limit - and also feel that electric dog collars would be the best solution to our immigrant problem?

 

[Unkotare]

You should take seriously the need to actually learn something about the English language if you are going to try and play 'expert' again in the future.

 

[LilOlLady]

How should the U.S. deal with illegal Immigration?

Start by enforcing the laws that ALREADY exist.

By what means should they be enforced?

Any more questions?

Just like we would deal with any foreign invader?

 

[LilOlLady]

You should take seriously the need to actually learn something about the English language if you are going to try and play 'expert' again in the future.

Just for you Unkotare. and other that are hung up on the usage of the English language.
English Language Discussion Board

 

[Unkotare]

You should take seriously the need to actually learn something about the English language if you are going to try and play 'expert' again in the future.

Just for you Unkotare. and other that are hung up on the usage of the English language.
English Language Discussion Board

Maybe YOU should get a little hung up on learning the English language, you ignorant slob.

 

[manifold]

@ a guy who took his screen name from the cat on the Smurfs.

 

[Nova78]

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