How Paul Ryan Would Decimate the New Deal - Go Paul !

[Listening]

The PRyan for brains crowd love their leader; he makes cruelty, stupidity,* and selfishness acceptable by his presence on the ticket. Felons across American are no doubt cheering him on: "HE IS ONE OF OUR OWN!"

Listen to the sack of egesta talk about US history, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

You bet we love our leaders.

Unlike the moron you pricks put in the WH, this guy knows what he's talking about.

Stop being such an asshole.

 

[P@triot]

Ryan is a diciple of Ayn Rand and should not be allowed within a heartbeat of the Presidency.

Yes, Ayn Rand - the person who had to live under the very communism your spoiled and free ass thinks is "cute" and "cuddly".

Ayn Rand knew what the fuck she was talking about, and that has never been more obvious than the nightmare maxist in the White House named Obama and his Obamacare....

 

[Listening]

Yes, go Paul!

And take Romney with you!

He is...right to 1600 Penn Ave.

Washington D.C.

Kiss your government gravy train good-bye.

 

[P@triot]

George W. Bush was a big-government liberal. He grew government programs, he really expanded national security, even usurping the Constitution to do so, and he spent like a drunken sailor.

And the idiot liberal Dumbocrats have become such radical socialists/marxists/communists that they threatened the mans life over and over and consider him the anti-christ.

Can you imagine how bad they are going to freak the fuck out when they have an actual conservative in the White House like Paul Ryan?

This is going to be sooooo much fun...

 

[P@triot]

The PRyan for brains crowd love their leader; he makes cruelty, stupidity,* and selfishness acceptable by his presence on the ticket. Felons across American are no doubt cheering him on: "HE IS ONE OF OUR OWN!"

Listen to the sack of egesta talk about US history, it would be funny if it wasn't so sad.

What's sad is your volumes of misinformation!

 

[squinch]

George W. Bush was a big-government liberal. He grew government programs, he really expanded national security, even usurping the Constitution to do so, and he spent like a drunken sailor.

And the idiot liberal Dumbocrats have become such radical socialists/marxists/communists that they threatened the mans life over and over and consider him the anti-christ.

Can you imagine how bad they are going to freak the fuck out when they have an actual conservative in the White House like Paul Ryan?

This is going to be sooooo much fun...

You think Bush was a big guv liberal? That's precious. Ryan's too much of a pussy to run a snow cone stand much a country.

 

[Listening]

George W. Bush was a big-government liberal. He grew government programs, he really expanded national security, even usurping the Constitution to do so, and he spent like a drunken sailor.

And the idiot liberal Dumbocrats have become such radical socialists/marxists/communists that they threatened the mans life over and over and consider him the anti-christ.

Can you imagine how bad they are going to freak the fuck out when they have an actual conservative in the White House like Paul Ryan?

This is going to be sooooo much fun...

You think Bush was a big guv liberal? That's precious. Ryan's too much of a pussy to run a snow cone stand much a country.

That still makes him preferable to Obama.

 

[flacaltenn]

It's "The Nation" for Pete's sake. I don't even bother to check their sorry asses any more.

Katrina (what a perfect name Vanden Sloppy is the poster child for leftist jackasses) and Co. are at it again.

But this time, I hope they are right.

The New Deal was the "Big Screw" and has been shown, the screwed are only now starting to feel it.

No more Credit Card living.

How Paul Ryan Would Decimate the New Deal | The Nation

Go Paul !!! The polls are narrowing...the Swing states are tight !

WOW, you sure get excited about punishing the elderly don't you Listening. Why is that? Are you a sociopath?

Nothing punishes the elderly more than keeping interest rates at NEAR ZERO when MOST of them planned to stretch their retirement savings by living on interest..

Nothing punishes the elderly more than STEALING the premiums from Soc Sec FICA taxes so that Obama can play Robin Hood.

Nothing punishes the elderly more than BORROWING money to write soc sec checks because current taxpayers are paying interest TWICE for the same dollar that goes to Grandma. Because before Obama invented STEALING THE PREMIUMS, the COngress invented stealing the surplus. From WHO --- the current "elderly".

Nothing punishes the elderly more than playing loose and fast with all the Medicare providers and presenting them as sources of graft and fraud and inefficiency.

Nothing punishes the elderly more than keeping all aspects of the economy hostage to indecisions on budget, spending, energy, healthcare, and taxes -- thus reducing the ability of their retirement funds to grow.

And speaking of retirement funds -- nothing punishes the elderly more than PROMISING outrageously generous govt pensions that are unsustainable and only MANAGING that problem when it gets to crisis proportions..

'bout covers it -- don't it?

And FDR, New Deal and the 30's??? NONE of that is relevent. We don't live in that world any world anymore. Those tactics aren't even a CHOICE anymore. Get over it...

 

[Political Junky]

Ryan is a diciple of Ayn Rand and should not be allowed within a heartbeat of the Presidency.

Nah...the Budget Munster claims that was just a "youthful dalliance" and that he's dedicated, heart & soul to Thomas Aquinas now. Somebody clued him in on the the fact that you can't be a follower of Christ and of Rand.

The "Nuns on the Bus" are driving it in. Sister Simone is really critical and vocal about Ryan and his failure as a Catholic.

 

[Listening]

Ryan is a diciple of Ayn Rand and should not be allowed within a heartbeat of the Presidency.

Nah...the Budget Munster claims that was just a "youthful dalliance" and that he's dedicated, heart & soul to Thomas Aquinas now. Somebody clued him in on the the fact that you can't be a follower of Christ and of Rand.

The "Nuns on the Bus" are driving it in. Sister Simone is really critical and vocal about Ryan and his failure as a Catholic.

Great...a Catholic who does not understand her doctrine.

Just what we need...another moron making policy.

 

[Bfgrn]

It's "The Nation" for Pete's sake. I don't even bother to check their sorry asses any more.

Katrina (what a perfect name Vanden Sloppy is the poster child for leftist jackasses) and Co. are at it again.

But this time, I hope they are right.

The New Deal was the "Big Screw" and has been shown, the screwed are only now starting to feel it.

No more Credit Card living.

How Paul Ryan Would Decimate the New Deal | The Nation

Go Paul !!! The polls are narrowing...the Swing states are tight !

WOW, you sure get excited about punishing the elderly don't you Listening. Why is that? Are you a sociopath?

Nothing punishes the elderly more than keeping interest rates at NEAR ZERO when MOST of them planned to stretch their retirement savings by living on interest..

Nothing punishes the elderly more than STEALING the premiums from Soc Sec FICA taxes so that Obama can play Robin Hood.

Nothing punishes the elderly more than BORROWING money to write soc sec checks because current taxpayers are paying interest TWICE for the same dollar that goes to Grandma. Because before Obama invented STEALING THE PREMIUMS, the COngress invented stealing the surplus. From WHO --- the current "elderly".

Nothing punishes the elderly more than playing loose and fast with all the Medicare providers and presenting them as sources of graft and fraud and inefficiency.

Nothing punishes the elderly more than keeping all aspects of the economy hostage to indecisions on budget, spending, energy, healthcare, and taxes -- thus reducing the ability of their retirement funds to grow.

And speaking of retirement funds -- nothing punishes the elderly more than PROMISING outrageously generous govt pensions that are unsustainable and only MANAGING that problem when it gets to crisis proportions..

'bout covers it -- don't it?

And FDR, New Deal and the 30's??? NONE of that is relevent. We don't live in that world any world anymore. Those tactics aren't even a CHOICE anymore. Get over it...

If the concepts and policies of the New Deal are no longer relevant, then we face a very bleak future, not only for senior citizens but all citizens.

It invites the fate of Robert Frost's hired man, the fate of having "nothing to look backward to with pride, and nothing to look forward to with hope."

The biggest threat we face as a nation is privatization, and the religious like belief that private entities and only private entries can serve the interests of We, the People.

The American people are stakeholders in our economy and public policies. Private entities can only serve stockholders...BY LAW.

Sadly, the arguments for the New Deal public policies were made, won and agreed to by what was rightly called the Greatest Generation and the parents of that generation who lived through the Great Depression. We now live among an Ayn Rand social Darwinist generation that does not have even a shred of human understanding of why those policies were essential or the conditions that existed before the New Deal, not only for senior citizens, but all citizens.

There is but one law for all, namely that law which governs all law, the law of our Creator, the law of humanity, justice, equity - the law of nature and of nations.
Edmund Burke

Those who don't know history are destined to repeat it.
Edmund Burke

 

[auditor0007]

Ryan is a poseur who won't do anything of any substance about the socialistic welfare state.

But that won't stop the demagoguing nutbars at The Nation from demagoguing anyone and everyone who isn't a blood-shooting-out-the-eyes socialist.

To you 90% of Americans are blood-shooting-out-the-eyes socialists, so it really doesn't matter what you think.

 

[ScienceRocks]

I believe in making sure the old get their SSI that they earned. Anyone that wants to cut that is stealing from them as surely as someone robs a man on a street corner. Certainly, we do need reforms, but not all of the new deal was wrong.

We need to reform SSD to make sure that only people that have a REAL disability get it. No more just for not having a job running onto it.

Huge reforms are needed. Let's not throw our old under the BUS.

We can work on putting more of the frame work on the state. The same reason we don't want education under the federal government. A centralize government abuses its people this way.

 

[Lakhota]

Listening is a truly pathetic creature.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OGnE83A1Z4U]The Agenda Project: Granny Off the Cliff - YouTube[/ame]

 

[ScienceRocks]

Listening is a truly pathetic creature.

The Agenda Project: Granny Off the Cliff - YouTube

Romney doesn't want to cut Medicare or SSI.

 

[Bfgrn]

I believe in making sure the old get their SSI that they earned. Anyone that wants to cut that is stealing from them as surely as someone robs a man on a street corner. Certainly, we do need reforms, but not all of the new deal was wrong.

We need to reform SSD to make sure that only people that have a REAL disability get it. No more just for not having a job running onto it.

Huge reforms are needed. Let's not throw our old under the BUS.

We can work on putting more of the frame work on the state. The same reason we don't want education under the federal government. A centralize government abuses its people this way.

I agree with most of your post. Good job.

I suggest you talk to some people who have a REAL disability. Ask them how difficult it really is to get disability insurance.

The States already run all those programs. What they need from the federal government is funding that the States can't generate.

 

[Bfgrn]

Listening is a truly pathetic creature.

The Agenda Project: Granny Off the Cliff - YouTube

Romney doesn't want to cut Medicare or SSI.

Romney's tax policy gives a whole new meaning to Voodoo economics. His tax policies alone will make cuts to Medicare and SSI inevitable.

But it goes much deeper than just taxes or budgets.

Romney, Ryan and the Devil's Budget: Will America Keep Its Soul?

America was born with a great soul, a moral view of Democracy in which citizens care about their fellow citizens and join together to take responsibility not just for themselves but for each other, for America as a union, a joint enterprise. The government's job was to carry out that moral vision and to do so it created what we call The Public, the provision of basic protection and empowerment for all.

From the beginning of America, the Public provided roads and bridges, public schools, hospitals, a national bank, a patent office, police, a justice system, public buildings and records, and more. Since then the Public has expanded as public needs have expanded -- sewers, clean water, public transportation, public health and disease control, scientific research, the internet, GPS, an energy grid, parks, and much, much more.

The Public provides freedom, the freedom to use what the Public provides to live a decent life and to start businesses. Without the public, there would be no American way of life, no freedom to live a decent life, to run or work in businesses, or work as a public servant. The Public carries out the work of America's soul.

Budgets are moral documents. National, state, and local budgets are commitments about where and how to carry out the work of America's soul, or to abandon it. A national budget that abandons the Public and the freedoms it gives us is selling America's very soul. Such a budget is the Devil's Budget. It uses numbers for an evil purpose: to rob us of our basic everyday freedom.

Who would propose a Devil's budget, and why?

First, why? A significant number of Americans do not share America's founding moral vision. They have a different one. Democracy in America provides the liberty to seek one's own interests and well-being, without being responsible for the interests or well-being of anyone else. It's a morality of personal, but not social, responsibility. The only freedom you should have is what you can provide for yourself, not what the Public provides for you to start out. America's soul, the provisions that represent citizens' moral commitment to each other, would be no more. Those who have this different moral sense will want a Devil's Budget. Let's call them extreme conservatives, who see the conservative moral vision as their highest priority.

Second, who would propose a Devil's Budget? Paul Ryan. Who wants to put it in effect? Mitt Romney.

The Devil is seductive. He is handsome, strong, charming, sincere, engages you in gentlemanly and respectful debate. He says he is on your side, that you are in a crisis. He offers to solve your crisis and makes it sound good. You too can be in the top 1 percent, part of the group with 40 percent of the wealth. He offers you freedom, freedom from dependency on The Public, freedom to care only for yourself, liberty from your fellow citizens caring for you, providing a starting point, freedom from you paying for anyone else.

The Romney-Ryan Budget is a Devil's budget. It guts The Public, America's soul -- The American Way of Life that we provide for each other.

"Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history."
President Dwight D. Eisenhower

 

[JoeB131]

It's "The Nation" for Pete's sake. I don't even bother to check their sorry asses any more.

Katrina (what a perfect name Vanden Sloppy is the poster child for leftist jackasses) and Co. are at it again.

But this time, I hope they are right.

The New Deal was the "Big Screw" and has been shown, the screwed are only now starting to feel it.

No more Credit Card living.

How Paul Ryan Would Decimate the New Deal | The Nation

Go Paul !!! The polls are narrowing...the Swing states are tight !

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When did the GOP become so depraved that they think starving old people was a good idea.

Maybe we should just put them off on an ice flow like the Eskimoes used to do.

 

[Seawytch]

Nah...the Budget Munster claims that was just a "youthful dalliance" and that he's dedicated, heart & soul to Thomas Aquinas now. Somebody clued him in on the the fact that you can't be a follower of Christ and of Rand.

The "Nuns on the Bus" are driving it in. Sister Simone is really critical and vocal about Ryan and his failure as a Catholic.

Great...a Catholic who does not understand her doctrine.

Just what we need...another moron making policy.

Oh really? Why don't you tell us what information about her doctrine that Sister Simone is missing. She's concerned with feeding the hungry and caring for the sick...you know, shit that fellow Jesus used to talk about all the time.

 

[JoeB131]

Ryan is a diciple of Ayn Rand and should not be allowed within a heartbeat of the Presidency.

Yes, Ayn Rand - the person who had to live under the very communism your spoiled and free ass thinks is "cute" and "cuddly".

Ayn Rand knew what the fuck she was talking about, and that has never been more obvious than the nightmare maxist in the White House named Obama and his Obamacare....

The same Ayn Rand who had to get Social Security and Medicare at the end of her life, because she wasn't nearly as good at Capitalist thing as she thought she was.