How NOT to hire Americans for high tech jobs

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    Oh I see you dont care what the corporations are doing to keep Americans from working?
     
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    I don't know about you, but I know I'm not helping anyone do this.

    I'm not sure that not caring would apply, at least not for me. I am somewhat ambivalent, I suppose. Then again, if my job were at risk because of this sort of questionable practice I would probably feel different.

    I don't find it surprising that this goes on. Lawyers, not exactly the gold standard for scruples, found away to circumvent the system, have presented their discovery to corporations (whose bottom line is $$$), and these corporations take advantage. While technically legal, I would say it is at least ethically questionable.

    I wonder if Congress was aware of the loopholes that make this practice both possible and legal? Maybe we should outsource our politicians.

    I would like to see a list of corporations who have availed themselves of this technique.
     
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    Let me qualify my ambivalence (and that may be too extreme an adjective for my feelings about the video). I think it stems from the fact that this is the first I've heard of these practices and, while annoying, I do not find it at all surprising, as I stated previously. I think my feelings on the issue would best be described as, still developing.
     
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    The corporations can not be just Trusted to act in the best interest of America.

    They need to be watched with all our attention.

    Just trusting them is going to get us destroyed.

    There are many on the right who think they are All American Gods.
     
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    I don’t understand why a company would go to so much trouble to try to hire non-Americans. Please help me to connect the dots. I thought that an employer’s goal was to get the most out of a person while paying him the least amount of money possible. Is it that foreigners will work hard for less money? Even if that were the cash, I think that the employer is wasting more time and money in the process for trying to find a cheap foreigner. It seems like they are spending dollars to find dimes. It seems like it would be more cost effective and efficient for a company to simply send out advertisements, interview prospects, and select the one person who will be the most productive for the least salary. Please explain in a simple way.

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    They can hire people from India and the like for a fraction of the cost of hiring an American worker.

    The bottom line is all the matters to them and we are in big trouble as a nation when we assume they will do what is best for America.
     
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    Corporate tax rates should be influenced by what percentage of their workforce is American vs Foreign. Either that, or the percentage of foreign employees can trigger a sliding scale of Import taxes that will equalize the cost of labor as to not favor outsourcing. Id even go so far as to promote tax cuts for companies that minimize outsourcing as well as taxing the fuck out of corporations that move off shores to circumvent american commerce rules.

    foreign labor markets need to invest in their OWN consumer markets instead of leaching off of america.

    .02 cents
     
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    As long as corporations answer to their stockholders, they will continue to do their best to achieve the highest return on the lowest investment, I would expect nothing less from them.

    The only way to change this would be to reform our system of government, make industry part of the state, set a cap on wages for the workers as well as management. The government can institute price controls on the necessary living essentials so that everyone can afford what they need to survive. The state can then take money from the most wealthy citizens and redistribute the money...

    I think you know how this story ends.

    Look, no system is perfect. There are obviously problems with the guest worker program, problems that should be addressed by Congress, the same Congress that is lobbied and courted by big business. Hmmm...I guess we would need to reform Congress before we can address the guest worker system.

    Damn, we're screwed.
     
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    The bottom line is you cant JUST TRUST them to act in Americas best interest.

    They have to be watched and new laws constatntly applied to blunt their harm to America.

    Those who want to see them as American Idealized Intitutions of Fair play are insane and or naive.

    We have to watch their asses like hawks plain and simple.

    I dont think they are Evil I just dont believe they are my warm and cuddlely friend.
     

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