How long before Kurdistan becomes a "Problem"?

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    The Kurds want independence for Iraq! They basically have it now. For the most part they have been a success story in Iraq war from the beginning. When the US eventually leaves Iraq, Iraq will have many problems. I believe this will be one for them. The Kurds are buying their time. They know if they tried to separate now, they would have to take on the US with Turkey probably more than happy to help, but when the US leaves, there is very very little disincentive for them to not cut and run. The Iraqi army probably will have its hands filled with keeping the rest of Iraq secure under amongst Shia/Sunni riffes. So I see Kurdistan doing a Kosovo and unilaterally parting from Iraq. They have been building up their economy and most likely military capacities for the day when the US leaves. Honestly they would be stupid not to try it now, since Iraq will be at its weakest when the US leaves!

    But see the map below! The Kurds have made claims to more than just the Iraq, they believe a large chunk of Turkey, Iran and small pieces of Syria and Armenia are part of Kurdistan. This could cause a problem, since its unlikely that they will ever be able to get any territory beyond their current borders.

    Nevertheless, just as the Palestinians deserve a homeland, the Kurds are just, if not more, as deserving a homeland too. Especially since they have been the victims of genocide by the Turks, Iraqis and Iranians and they are still discriminated against in Turkey, Iran (especially Iran), Iraq and Syria!

    http://www.kokhavivpublications.com/help/maps/map.php?id=Kurdistan
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    Here is the map!
     

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    They've been a problem for a mighty long time.

    Little Miss Muffet, for example, complained that she had Kurds in her Whey.
     
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    Funny, owe so funny :eusa_snooty:

    If you don't want to address the thread then don't troll it! :hmpf:
     
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    Can't take the punishment, huh?

    The Kurds ARE the way, G.

    The Kurds have been in everyone's way since the 1923 Treaty of Lausanne.

    Another Asiatic disaster brought to us by the victors of WWI. Another of the multitudes of failings I might add.

    The right thing would have been to create that promised land call Kurdistan per the1920 Treaty of Sevres.


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    Now, of course, that solution is too late.

    We cannot piss of Turkey, we won't have control over Iraq soon, and Iran isn't likely to give us their territory, either.
     
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    Very true, but I see them pulling away from Iraq in their current smaller state shortly after the US pulls out of Iraq and after a period of temporary chaos in the country! Kurdstan will be independent by 2011 and Iraq probably will fight it, but will have more pressing issues to deal with Iraq as a whole!

    Then the question will be if the Kurds will be statisfied with a piece of land that is only a fraction of what they claim Kurdstan should encompass or will they seek more? My gut tells me they will sit tight for a little while, but then radical fractions will provoke Turk and Iran and trouble will begin!
     
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    Why do the Kurds get ignored just like they do in this post!
     
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    They deserve a home country. They are very close to getting a fraction of what Kurdistan used to be. However, they will have to succeed from Iraq. Suceed from Iraq will probably not be too difficult after the US leaves, but will the hold onto their desires for greater Kurdistan, which encompasses Turkey, Iran and Syria. Probably not. So they will be in struggle for more land, even though they have a free independent country of their own. They will never get the sympathy or coverage that the Pals get though, since it will be Muslim on Muslim meaning the hypocritical Muslim community across Europe will be split or frankly won't give a shit.
     
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    Forget it. If the Kurds split away from Iraq, the Turks will crush them like a bug. Nobody will even blink. (Hell, the Turks may crush them like a bug anyway.)
     
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    They are pretty self-automnous right now in Iraq!

    Now if the Turks crush them are they still going to be crying foul at Israel?
     

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