How has invading Iraq helped us win the 'war on terror'?

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    or even helped us get anywhere AHEAD of where we were going into this 'liberation' and now 'occupation'? are there less terrorists that hate the US now? is there now less of a threat of terror on the homefront?
     
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    you can't win the war on terror because the koran and hadith are breeding grounds for violence and as long as we ignore that fact people will continue to die.
     
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    oh? how many muslim friend do you have?
    i'm PROUD to say that i know many of them, and as far as i know, they ARE MY FRIENDS and don't want to see me dead. funny how they are muslim, and yet i don't see any reason to fear them! :confused:

    i think you need to fear ANY EXTREME faction of ANY RELIGION, not just islam.

    when's the last time you read the koran, anyway?
     
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    pick the point that you can actually respond to, and run with it, man! :laugh: (never mind my other questions, right?)

    did you read it in english? it still doesn't explain why my muslim friends don't want to KILL ME! are you saying they have eveil intentions behind that smile?! :confused: it must be nice to be omnipotent!

    i believe you are errant to lump millions of muslims together with radicals. until you can distinguish between the two, the debate with you is totally pointless.

    p.s. that's a lot of muslims to kill. better get started! :rolleyes:
     
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    It most definitely has helped, although nothing has been won yet, and won't for many years to come.

    Thinking that we should sit back and negotiate or let them continue their destructive ways is foolish thinking. So we aren't supposed to act on the worlds criminals because they may get angry?

    Maybe we should stop hunting mass murderers within our borders as well, wouldn't want to anger the Manson's of the world. :rolleyes:
     
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    It's one stop on the road to the end of the war on terror. Until the entire middel east is changed the war will go on. Freedom and democracy prevent war and terror. or in the case of W, free people are less likely to commit terror.
     
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    It has brought many MOOSLIM assholes to IRAQ to meet their allmighty asshole MOOSLIM god in death " which is what the assholes seem to crave " and not here in our country. I am happy they shall meet their child molestin POS god on their sandy desolate shitty ground. You have the American military forces to thank for you not having to deal with these assholes blowing up your father, mother, grandmother, sons, and daughters. So if you would at LEAST acknowledge that fact I am sure the troops that protect your ass would appreciate at least your support and patriotism. And BTW I could care less about how many MOOSLUM friends you think you have.
     
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    In answer to your question. It gives us a working point in the middle east. It rids the world of an extremely evil dictator. We plant democracy right in the middle of the middle east. And through that democracy we work at changing the minds of the people there as we kill off the radicals.

    Your friends are obviously not radical islamists or you are an islamist yourself. You are correct about radicals of any religion being dangerous. But at this time the most dangerous and most organized are the islamic radicals.

    I havn't read the koran. Only excerps in english. I do question anything that must be read and understood in one language only. Also the fact that all the holy sites of islam are located withing a small arabic part of the middle east. Its all about arab control of the world thru the islamic religion.

    Ask your friends about islamic heaven. Their heaven comes to earth only after all the non-believers are either killed or converted. Islam is not a love thy nieghbor type of religion. And the radicals believe in killing any that stand in their way and terrorizing the rest into conversion. The non-radical element believe in conversion through teaching.

    Yes there are less terrorist now. Everyday there are a few less. As we find them and kill or capture them. Another way to beat them is for the non-radical ones, like your friends to step forward and teach the radical ones. I don't see much of that happening, most of the islamic community is strangely silent in this respect.

    The threat of terror is still here on the home front. but it has been sharply curtailed. And the more pressure we can put on the terrorist over there, the less likely they can act here. The best defense is still a good offense. Fight them on their lands, not ours. Radicals are pouring into Iraq to attack our military. Thats a good thing. Thats what our military does, fight. They are there taking on the radicals and the saddam supporters and disrupting all the plans of those radicals.

    There's a war on. Its posible Iran maybe next to fall. Depends on whether the rational islamics rise up and take over as to whether we go in or not. The other front will be opening within the next year or so in Korea. Another secular government, like saddams. You as a liberal can then cry about 'what are we doing there?' we should be looking for bin laden.

    I don't expect Bush to open any new fronts until after the election tho.
     
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    i know you're just being facetious, jim. we know we can't negotiate with them in a round table discussion, but we also have SEEN that the current method is leaving A LOT to be desired.

    NEWSFLASH, if there was a stop, i think we missed it! these people don't enjoy 'freedom' like you and i do. be serious.

    i couldn't get past this. maybe a little buckshot in those cans of bud will help him out? probably not :( this isn't anything close to a solution. oh, but i did see this:

    i'm well aware of that. and that's just sad, dude. but it is your right! just don't be suprised when you see people rolling their eyes in the back of their heads. most of us left that mentality in middle school.

    i'll assume this is in the magical future? :rolleyes: it's certainly not there as we type.

    no, and they represent a larger percentage of muslims that AREN'T radical. agreed, the current threat is a network of 'mostly' muslims. however, i cannot prove this.

    i'm well aquainted with the rendition of the islamic heaven, esp. for radicals. much like the bible, much of this text is taken as rhetorical, as opposed to completely literal.

    i'd really like for you to back that assertion up with some kind of factual data. i argue more are being created every single day... there is a mutual respect issue that has not been attained, and has been hampered further by our invasion. good point, however!

    unfortunately, we don't have the MEANS to continue as we are... even if we wanted to. we are so far in debt, i'm cringing just thinking about the deficit once (if ever) we get out of iraq.

    i'm not so sure about this anymores... we've done a better job on the borders. besides, thos looked like iraqi citizens to me dragging those burned corpses through the street last week?

    sounds like dubya :laugh:
    we don't have the money, even if we WANTED to.

    was fine till this point. common sense is not liberalism. give it up.

    cut taxes and attack another country? just wait until we pull another 'iraq'... you'll find how very few allies we have then. it doesn't take much of an imagination.
     

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