How did Pelosi et al Do It?

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    Okay, we've discussed the Louisiana Purchase, the Cornhusker kickback, and all sorts of other shenanigans that went on to get the previous healthcare bills passed in the House and Senate, but those bills were too far apart for reconiciliation.

    The healthcare reform was proclaimed dead by none other than Pelosi herself. She did not have the votes to go with the Senate version and the Senate wasn't inclined to budge.

    So how did Obama and Pelosi raise the legislation from the dead in these last few days and get it passed? What created the triumphal march to the microphones to declare a landmark victory?

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    So how did they do it? By demonstrating that the sins of the fathers shall be visted upon the children, even to the fourth and fifth generations:

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    Full story here in the WSJ:
    Kimberley A. Strassel: Inside the Pelosi Sausage Factory - WSJ.com

    Makes you proud to be an American doesn't it.
     
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    Perhaps you could expound on what my location during the Bush administration has to do with the OP?
     
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    Because you act surprised that this is anything new. When in reality, many of the bills that have passed in the past that you cheered on likely were passed through such means.
     
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    Again what does anything that may or may not have been done in the past have to do with the OP?
     
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    We all know the votes were bought and paid for. But don't expect the Obamabots on here to ever admit it. Hell they don't even believe it. They can't get their heads out of Obamas ass to see anything in the sunlight.
     
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    Admit it? I can't even get them to discuss it. :)
     
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    Because there is no point in trying to have a discussion with someone on this who subjectively thinks that back room deals are okay when it's for legislation they want, such as yourself.

    Whether we like it or not, the reality is this sort of thing occurs with just about every bill that is even halfway important. It doesn't make it right, but Washington has no plans on changing. And if you think the Republicans will change anything if they retake power, I direct you to the "Dracula Congress."
     
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    bartering within congress is legal, and has been repeatedly done in the previous and all other administrations.Poison pill: how Abramoff's cronies sold the Medicare drug bill. - Free Online Library

    Without seeing a previous outcry AGAINST such negotiations, and only seeing them NOW, serves nothing but a partisan purpose.

    though I can understand the concern of the back room deals, I am baffled by the sudden and singular outrage of those on the "right" regarding such?
     
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    It was arm twisting, deal making, and bribery that got it done.

    Pelosi, Reid, and Obama were just better at it than McConnell and Boehner this time.
     

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