How Black Was Jesus?

I would venture to guess that Jesus, being God Himself, with all the innate abilities only He possessed, could appear differently to different tribes and groups of people.

If He could make water turn to wine and feed the masses, there is no doubt he could also change his appearance in order to more closely associate with the people whom he was amongst.

I would posit--Jesus Christ looked exactly like ALL OF US.

:D

Interesting, thought.
 
Well you've just proved a.) that you're completely illiterate and b.) that you have no concept of the scriptures that you claim to be so in love with and have no clue about the savior you claim to adore so much.

From someone with spiritual dyslexia, I'll take that as a complement.

I know what tribe Yahoshua is from. I also clearly know that Simeon was not Yahoshua. The Simeon example was to provide insight on exactly what color the Hebrews of Yahoshua's day living in Ancient Israel would have been.

That is like saying that because there is a black man in America, everyone in America is black. Your logic is seriously flawed.

Being that Simeon was called "dark" the assumption drawn is that the people's skin tone varied very heavily back then.

...as it does today... which means absolutely nothing.

Just like in most groups that have darker skin tones, there are those who are very dark and those who are lighter. This really shouldn't be that hard to explain, but I see I'm dealing with a child, who doesn't know anything of the scriptures other than what the pulpit pimps and faith healers tell him.

You have tried to prove your point with nothing but assumptions from scriptures taken out of context. Everything else is merely what you hope and pray were true but should not be mistaken for reality.

Again the evidence is in the word.

We know from the Bible the Hebrews looked like the Egyptians.

We know from Ancient Historians looked like Ethiopians.

We know from the scriptures that at least a few of them were very dark.

Seriously the color of Yahoshua isn't a very controversial issue if you know your Bible. The imagine given in a post above by skull pilot probably was what Yahoshua looked like. I'd accept that as a pretty good portrayal.

Maybe you can show me where the Bible says that Hebrews "looked" like the Egyptions. I am sure the scripture exists. I must have just overlooked it. My appologies in advance for not noticing that scripture.
 
Well you've just proved a.) that you're completely illiterate and b.) that you have no concept of the scriptures that you claim to be so in love with and have no clue about the savior you claim to adore so much.

From someone with spiritual dyslexia, I'll take that as a complement.

I know what tribe Yahoshua is from. I also clearly know that Simeon was not Yahoshua. The Simeon example was to provide insight on exactly what color the Hebrews of Yahoshua's day living in Ancient Israel would have been.

That is like saying that because there is a black man in America, everyone in America is black. Your logic is seriously flawed.



...as it does today... which means absolutely nothing.

Just like in most groups that have darker skin tones, there are those who are very dark and those who are lighter. This really shouldn't be that hard to explain, but I see I'm dealing with a child, who doesn't know anything of the scriptures other than what the pulpit pimps and faith healers tell him.

You have tried to prove your point with nothing but assumptions from scriptures taken out of context. Everything else is merely what you hope and pray were true but should not be mistaken for reality.

Again the evidence is in the word.

We know from the Bible the Hebrews looked like the Egyptians.

We know from Ancient Historians looked like Ethiopians.

We know from the scriptures that at least a few of them were very dark.

Seriously the color of Yahoshua isn't a very controversial issue if you know your Bible. The imagine given in a post above by skull pilot probably was what Yahoshua looked like. I'd accept that as a pretty good portrayal.

Maybe you can show me where the Bible says that Hebrews "looked" like the Egyptions. I am sure the scripture exists. I must have just overlooked it. My appologies in advance for not noticing that scripture.
That is like saying that because there is a black man in America, everyone in America is black. Your logic is seriously flawed.

No it's like saying the Ethnic Hebrews are not comparable to US citizens because comparing ethnicity to nationality is like apples and oranges. There are various nationalities that live in the US, but the Hebrews were not a nationality they were an ethnicity. Your "logic" isn't flawed, it's based on nothing.

To assume that Simeon was the lone black man in Israel and he was just black for no reason, when he was clearly a Hebrew just like Yahoshua is border-line retarded. Again, the concept here is closer to this, amongst people of color in the Americas there are nicknames that are given to those who are far more dark and far more light. For instance, I'm Haitian, and I'm one of the only Haitians in my family who has light skin and green eyes. My cousins who were far darker would call me "light-bright", "high yellow" etc. I'd call darker kids, "blackness", "midnight", "charcoal", etc. This is because people of color come in a wide variety of shades, BUT share the SAME ethnicity. Yahoshua and Simeon shared the same ethnicity. Simeon was very dark, so dark he had a nickname that denoted this. Being that Yahoshua and Simeon are the same ethnicity, however how are we to assume Yahoshua or any of the Hebrews looked like Ashzenazi Jews?

Maybe you can show me where the Bible says that Hebrews "looked" like the Egyptions.

I've already done this. Moses was mistaken as an Egyptian, Exodus 2:19. Paul was mistaken for an Egyptian, Acts 21:37-39. The movie the Prince of Egypt, as much as I hate Hollywood portrayals of scripture does the color thing very well. The Egyptians and Israelites were almost identical ethnically, this is not only Biblical it is also historical. The simple fact is, there was intermarriage between the Egyptians and Israelites. I'd get a better understanding of ancient history before I start trying to repaint the Hebrews as olived-skinned white males. What evidence do you have for that?
 
I dont think it matters what He looks like.

I think it's the message that matters.

It is the message that matters but liberals are soooo infatuated with skin color that they try to say that Jesus was a black man so they can further develop their distortions of the Bible. So to that extent, yes, it does matter.

:wtf: That's a pretty bold generalization there, bud. Got a link?
 
I suspect he looked a lot like Jimi Hendrix.

being omnipotent he could play guitar at least as well or better

Even God would have had to practice.... Can you imagine being there when Jesus banged his thumb with a hammer? (Don't say he didn't either - he was a carpenter by trade and his humanity is too big a part of the religious package on Him. If he was human, he banged his thumb.)

What's greek for "Holy FUCK, that hurt!!"? :eusa_angel:
 
I remember reading something by an early church father, or a monk who described Jesus as very dark skinned.

By today's standards how black would Jesus be? Blacker than Obama?
...

I seriously doubt Jesus was blacker than Obama. Just look at Obama in this picture!

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I remember reading something by an early church father, or a monk who described Jesus as very dark skinned.

By today's standards how black would Jesus be? Blacker than Obama?

seriously.


Profiling at an airport: would Jesus fit the description of a suspected terrorist?


The race of Jesus has been a subject of debate since at least the nineteenth century. The physical appearance of Jesus of Nazareth was debated by theologians from early on in the history of Christianity, though with no explicit emphasis on race.

Different societies have depicted Jesus and most other biblical figures as their own ethnicity in their art; for example he is primarily white in the West. The current dominant opinion among historians and scientists is that he was most likely a Galilean Jew and thus would have features which resemble modern-day persons of Middle Eastern or Semitic descent.

Race of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


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Race of Jesus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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4th century depiction...

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/79/Saidnaya_Jesus.jpg

Middle Eastern icon of Jesus from Saidnaya, Syria

I dont know how dark he was but I do know he didnt look like peter frampton. Geographically, there is no way he looked like the pictures I saw of him in church. Its just not possible. If memory serves didnt the bible mention his hair? It sure wasnt permed.
 
Biblically the Hebrews of Yahoshua's day looked like Ancient Egyptians. Whatever color the Egyptians were, the Hebrews were that same color. There is plenty of evidence to suggest this in scripture (Exodus 2:19; Matt 2:13-23), plus the fact that the Hebrews spent less then 400 years in Egypt and multiplied from about 70 strong to about 3 million during the exodus. Impossible without them taking Egyptian wives.

Additionally the ancient historian Tacticus called the Hebrews "an Ethiopian race". What do/did Ethiopians look like? Whatever that is/was I'm pretty sure Yahoshua was that color.

Then there's these verses:
"My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat." (Job 30:30)

"Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick." (Lam 4:8)

"Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine." (Lam 5:10)

I don't know why people assume Yahoshua looked like an Arab or Ashkenazi Jew. That's a foolish assumption... based on nothing, accept I saw Jaysus in the Passion of the Christ. He looked "olive colored". Silliness. If you actually read the word, you'll get answers... that actually make sense.

Those scriptures have nothing to do with Jewish skin color. Why is it, every time a liberal attempts to quote the Bible, it is like chalk screeching on a chalk board?

That incoherent screeching in your ear every time you hear the truth is called "Talk Radio".

There's a way to turn it off, but you have to WANT to be healed.​
 
I suspect he looked a lot like Jimi Hendrix.

being omnipotent he could play guitar at least as well or better

Even God would have had to practice.... Can you imagine being there when Jesus banged his thumb with a hammer? (Don't say he didn't either - he was a carpenter by trade and his humanity is too big a part of the religious package on Him. If he was human, he banged his thumb.)

What's greek for "Holy FUCK, that hurt!!"? :eusa_angel:

Jesus didn't speak Greek, ding-dong.

He spoke Aramaic. Hullo????? :lol:
 
I would venture to guess that Jesus, being God Himself, with all the innate abilities only He possessed, could appear differently to different tribes and groups of people.

If He could make water turn to wine and feed the masses, there is no doubt he could also change his appearance in order to more closely associate with the people whom he was amongst.

I would posit--Jesus Christ looked exactly like ALL OF US.

:D

Interesting, thought.

I think it's exactly right.

In my view, He could/would change his appearance in order to be more accepted amongst the different tribes he spoke to during his travels.

Being God, He easily would have this ability. And it just makes sense....God/Jesus knew then and knows now as well, that human nature is to be more accepting of those who look like you.

He was trying to get the Good News out. What better way than to make sure He was accepted by the doubtful strangers he encountered along the way? Look like them. If He looked like them, they would have been more likely to take Him into their homes and to invite friends and family to hear what He had to say. This would have been the best way to ensure His message reached the most people.

That's HUMAN NATURE at work.

So, it just freaking makes sense. Does it not?

Jesus Christ looks like ALL OF US.

I've always thought this since I was a little girl. I drove the Nuns and Priests crazy with my theory in Catholic school...asked way too many questions, but it just makes SENSE.

End of question, end of dilemma.

....next?
 
Jesus was no superstar..he be a soul man.

Dante, amongst the many shitty comments you've made here on these forums, this is one of the most shitty of them all.

I'm pretty certain you were already going to burn in hell...this one just seals the deal for you.

:eusa_naughty:
 
Yeah, the non believers have a monopoly on moral behavior alright.
Loon.

The non-believers are not the ones running candidates on morality platforms, only to catch the hypocrites they elect with their pants down.

Suetonius mentions Christians as being a general nuscence by the time of Nero. So in 25 years they went from 1 guy and 12 buds to a movement that was causing major grief in the capital. Pretty good speed for a movement in the 1st century.

They didn't have the internet back then, of course. :p

Yeah, Jesus recruited his day's versions of the wife beaters, dead beat dads, cheating spouses, illegals, homos, prostitutes,, murderers, thieves, leftists, commies, socialists---they all reformed and tithed---sort of like the born agains today----reformed wife beaters, dead beat dads, cheating spouses, illegals, homos, prostitutes,, murderers, thieves, leftists, commies, socialists.

Just say you believe and all is forgiven.

What's 'healthcare for all' if not a morality platform?
 
I remember reading something by an early church father, or a monk who described Jesus as very dark skinned.

By today's standards how black would Jesus be? Blacker than Obama?

seriously.
I've seen many Black Madonnas in Sicily. So if God is white then Jesus is probably the same color as Obama.

"Devotion to the Black Madonna has long existed in Europe. The various aspects of the dark-skinned Virgin Mary are considered miraculously powerful and are credited with having protected believers from such afflictions as earthquakes, pestilence, and the attacks of invading armies. Representations of the Black Madonna in European art depict her with a dark complexion but not "African" facial features; thus they are different from the religious images developed for local communities in Africa, Asia, and Latin America."

The Black Madonna of East 13th Street
 
being omnipotent he could play guitar at least as well or better

Even God would have had to practice.... Can you imagine being there when Jesus banged his thumb with a hammer? (Don't say he didn't either - he was a carpenter by trade and his humanity is too big a part of the religious package on Him. If he was human, he banged his thumb.)

What's greek for "Holy FUCK, that hurt!!"? :eusa_angel:

Jesus didn't speak Greek, ding-dong.

He spoke Aramaic. Hullo????? :lol:

"Ding-dong"?!?

:wtf:

"Holy FUCK, that hurt!!" :(
 
Jesus was no superstar..he be a soul man.

Dante, amongst the many shitty comments you've made here on these forums, this is one of the most shitty of them all.

I'm pretty certain you were already going to burn in hell...this one just seals the deal for you.

:eusa_naughty:

Don't listen to her, Dante! That post was FUNNY! :lol:
 
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Biblically the Hebrews of Yahoshua's day looked like Ancient Egyptians. Whatever color the Egyptians were, the Hebrews were that same color. There is plenty of evidence to suggest this in scripture (Exodus 2:19; Matt 2:13-23), plus the fact that the Hebrews spent less then 400 years in Egypt and multiplied from about 70 strong to about 3 million during the exodus. Impossible without them taking Egyptian wives.

Additionally the ancient historian Tacticus called the Hebrews "an Ethiopian race". What do/did Ethiopians look like? Whatever that is/was I'm pretty sure Yahoshua was that color.

Then there's these verses:
"My skin is black upon me, and my bones are burned with heat." (Job 30:30)

"Their visage is blacker than a coal; they are not known in the streets: their skin cleaveth to their bones; it is withered, it is become like a stick." (Lam 4:8)

"Our skin was black like an oven because of the terrible famine." (Lam 5:10)

I don't know why people assume Yahoshua looked like an Arab or Ashkenazi Jew. That's a foolish assumption... based on nothing, accept I saw Jaysus in the Passion of the Christ. He looked "olive colored". Silliness. If you actually read the word, you'll get answers... that actually make sense.

Those scriptures have nothing to do with Jewish skin color. Why is it, every time a liberal attempts to quote the Bible, it is like chalk screeching on a chalk board?

That incoherent screeching in your ear every time you hear the truth is called "Talk Radio".
There's a way to turn it off, but you have to WANT to be healed.

Well, I don't know that I would say talk radio is always the truth but there is a lot of truth in talk radio. There is one good way to deal with any lies and that is called the round knob thingy on the dashboard. It works every time.

Yeah, I know that's probably not what you meant but the way you said it.:lol:
 
I would venture to guess that Jesus, being God Himself, with all the innate abilities only He possessed, could appear differently to different tribes and groups of people.

If He could make water turn to wine and feed the masses, there is no doubt he could also change his appearance in order to more closely associate with the people whom he was amongst.

I would posit--Jesus Christ looked exactly like ALL OF US.

:D

:eek:You mean he was an hermorphidite?:eek:
 

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