House votes to establish select committee on Benghazi

[JFK_USA]

Seven investigations have already happened. Seven.

Over the course of about a year and a half....Seven investigations.

How in the heck can anyone believe that anything new will come up? It's nothing but political games...heck you have Republicans raising money off of Benghazi...how much more clear do you need it spelled out for you????

But But BENGHAZI!!!!!

 

[asterism]

You don't think the GOP is just playing politics, huh?

Everyone knows they're playing politics. The Republican House voted to defund security for Benghazi and other diplomatic assets. It's on the record, but FOX News and Rush Limbaugh haven't reported it - so the lemmings here don't know about it. They just repeat the talking points they're given.

All expenditures that could be up for a vote for such activities are contained in legislation. Show me the legislation that the Republican House voted to defund security for Benghazi (and if the House voted to defund it, the signature of the President would be required to make it so).

Until then there is this:

Statements:
Biden: "We weren't told they wanted more security. We did not know they wanted more security."
Ryan: "There were requests for extra security. Those requests were not honored."
The facts:
On Wednesday, the State Department's former point man on security in Libya told the House Oversight Committee that he asked for additional security help for the Benghazi facility months before the attack, but was denied.
Various communications dating back a year asked for three to five diplomatic security agents, according to testimony at Wednesday's hearing. But Eric Nordstrom, the one-time regional security officer, said he verbally asked for 12 agents.
The request for 12 agents was rebuffed by the regional director of the State Department's Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs, Nordstrom testified.
"For me and my staff, it was abundantly clear that we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident," Nordstrom said.

CNN Fact Check: What about the security in Benghazi? - CNN.com

 

[asterism]

"Paul Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security [including BENGHAZI]"

Who signed that legislation into law?

 

[asterism]

It's pretty safe to say that this Benghazi committee investigation exists only to motivate the Republican base to get the vote out in the fall.

Mostly true.

It has grown tiresome to hear some Republicans ask questions that were answered and settled long ago, like how Rice said what she said on t.v. because that's what Patreus and the CIA told her to say.

Not true. Petraeus never said that, and neither did "The CIA." Someone in the CIA took direction from White House Deputy Strategic Communications Advisor Ben Rhodes in editing the talking points to include the video as a justification for the attack.

The result was much less of a focus on "acts of terror" (the phrase is key, it's general and it was never applied to this specific incident) and lots more on the the video.

No coverup.

That remains to be seen, but so far it looks like there was a cover up.

It's just another bullshit issue because to talk about the minimum wage, Republicans would lose. Or to talk about immigration, they'd lose. Or eliminating tax loopholes on corporations and the wealthy in order to save taxpayer money, they'd lose. Republicans have to cling to this non-story, same with the IRS non-story. And on the IRS matter, we have learned that the "Tea Party" was not even their main target; "Acorn" type left-wing groups were!

That remains to be seen too, but Lois Lerner certainly didn't call for blanket special screening of groups named "Acorn."

What a fucking farce for Republicans. The amazing thing is that their brand of stupid actually works on easily-led people who cling to things with a kind of religious hysteria.

But as Obama told Romney in the second debate, when Romney was in the middle of digging himself a grave, "Please......continue".

Grab your popcorn and get ready for another nutty adventure, brought to you by one of the least competent HoR's that we've seen in some time. They just love winning national attention to their bullshit, but once they do, they crash and burn because of how unreasonable they appear to be. So it should be entertaining once the hearings start.

I agree that it's all political, it's the same thing the Democrats did to the Republicans when Iraq became a military victory but a humanitarian nightmare.


Oh and the gun running to Syria just shows the incompetence of the Obama crowd. Yes it happened, yes it was correct, but these idiots were stupid enough to get caught and not have a contingency plan. THAT is the real scandal.

 

[The T]

"Paul Ryan, [Rep. Darrell] Issa and other House Republicans voted for an amendment in 2009 to cut $1.2 billion from State operations, including funds for 300 more diplomatic security positions. Under Ryan’s budget, non-defense discretionary spending, which includes State Department funding, would be slashed nearly 20 percent in 2014, which would translate to more than $400 million in additional cuts to embassy security [including BENGHAZI]"

Oh give it up. Apart from the basic fact that not one idiot could figure out that they could move personnel from other very secure embassies around the world the security budget was still more than in 2008.

It was just a reduction in the "increase".

Shall we not forget that $6Billion went missing from the State Department under Hillary's watch?

 

[jknowgood]

Seven investigations have already happened. Seven.

Over the course of about a year and a half....Seven investigations.

How in the heck can anyone believe that anything new will come up? It's nothing but political games...heck you have Republicans raising money off of Benghazi...how much more clear do you need it spelled out for you????

Anything new ? If the killers who did this (who remain scott free right now), were apprehended and brought to justice, THAT would be new, wouldn't it ? So why aren't those guys even being sought ? That question needs to be answered. You got an answer for it ?

Also who gave the orders to stand down, and not send in help, while a siege progressed for 8 hours ? I

Also, who are these infamous CIA "analysts" that what's his face ( former deputy director of the CIA Michael Morell) kept referring to ? (hiding behind)

I'd say there quite a few unanswered questions.

The killers are being sought.
There were no orders to stand down.
No idea what you are talking about.

Obama is to stupid to over see an investigation. The only reason he got bin laden, is because he used intel from bushes investigation. Yes, and it included water boarding.

 

[The T]

Anything new ? If the killers who did this (who remain scott free right now), were apprehended and brought to justice, THAT would be new, wouldn't it ? So why aren't those guys even being sought ? That question needs to be answered. You got an answer for it ?

Also who gave the orders to stand down, and not send in help, while a siege progressed for 8 hours ? I

Also, who are these infamous CIA "analysts" that what's his face ( former deputy director of the CIA Michael Morell) kept referring to ? (hiding behind)

I'd say there quite a few unanswered questions.

The killers are being sought.
There were no orders to stand down.
No idea what you are talking about.

Obama is to stupid to over see an investigation. The only reason he got bin laden, is because he used intel from bushes investigation. Yes, and it included water boarding.

Yep. If Obama had had his way? He would have let bin-Laden go on...

 

[BlindBoo]

Keep up the good work on Benghazi fellows. This election is yours to lose too. While your at it why not vote to repel obamacare too. Surely that will help. Although your wacky base will follow you anywhere.