With all this fear that the United States is wasted, fear usually motivates people to want to work. However, when fear gets in the way of thinking there's any way out at all, many simply stop caring. So I thought I'd write a thread for people who want to talk about hope, not fear. Hope is more urgent than fear, I think. Now we could be finding new stars, stopping comets, or at least colonizing mars, these as protection, and when we think of how easy it would be to join together in an act of love to accomplish these things, it really doesn't make survival seem that at odds with reality. So, starting with what's urgent, the fiscal mess. We can kick the can down the road by making worse and worse goals, leading to the worser of martial law. We can man up and recover as a country to help the world as well. Or we can just kick the bucket the first time we get a chance, leading to a better of martial law. In martial law, we could have all our energy tapped ourselves, a gun for every citizen, and the ability to weather a storm for awhile, but if it's about debt martial law would be the end of it. But for those who fear safety nets, there is a lot further along we can go before we simply die off the earth. We seem to always be in paradise no matter what happens, but that doesn't make it impossible to bleed out some of our lives responsibly to get back after kicking the can some more. We can also disguise ourselves so no one need be alienated for doing what they consider responsibility, and that won't upset our sensibilities. Then, as in all wars, offense will trump defense, and everyone well be sold self-protection. We can have minimal maneuvering room and try to advance everyone's dreams Necessity and cramped-ness will lead to invention. Finally, when science dies out long after good and evil, we can have different family systems, like cloning, cryogenics, and resurrection, and nature will allow for the strongest to stake their claim among the weakness. But look, All of this appears descent, and it is all available to move back up from. As Obama said, "Our way is harder but it leads to a better place. We have further to go, but we're going together." Of course it would be better to go up not down. I would like to see positive posts about the world getting better. Just the other day on the newshour they made robots for autism and elderly that took 3/4 of physician's time out from caring for a patient.