Sweet Willy
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In Washington, Obama said the United States will "stand on the side of democracy" and work with other nations and international groups to resolve the matter peacefully.
"We believe that the coup was not legal and that President Zelaya remains the democratically elected president there," Obama said.
"It would be a terrible precedent if we start moving backwards into the era in which we are seeing military coups as a means of political transition rather than democratic elections," he added. "The region has made enormous progress over the last 20 years in establishing democratic traditions. ... We don't want to go back to a dark past."
yeah....."WE BELIEVE that the coup....."
The president is obviously stating his position, what HE BELIEVES.
There has been no demand made to the Hondurans, THE ONLY FUCKING PEOPLE THAT CAN RESPOND TO A DEMAND.
This is something called diplomacy, politics, nuance.
A demand or an insistance upon another government would be made in no indirect terms and by no indirect fucking press release.
This is dumb. There have been no demands made.
Look, you're just playing word games. Obama and his press secretary made it clear that they felt that there had been a military coup and that Zelaya was still the rightful president of Honduras. A normal person would take that to mean that the position of our government is to support Zelaya. Supporting Zelaya implies that Zelaya should be considered the Honduran president and returned to power. You can dance and spin and play wordsmith but it doesn't change the actual meaning.
I agree with most of what you said. I do not agree that Obama supports Zelaya. I have not heard that anyone has taken any side except to take the side of democracy and to condem a military coup.
In any case, Obama has not insisted that the guy be returned to power. He has said that he thinks he should be, that he thinks that is the right answer and that a coup is illegal.
You can not insist that the press reinstate the man. The press can not do that. The only people that can do that are in Honduras. No one is twisting words here except Divcon with the very first loaded, bullshit question. If the question was: "Do you think it is wrong for Obama to say Zelaya should be reinstated?" My answer would be "No. I do not." If Obama is in the position to either endorse a military coup or support legal recourse, I'd say he made a good decision.
If the question is "Do you think Obama is wrong to INSIST that Zelaya be reinstated?", my answer changes. If Obama had indeed "insisted" that the Hondurans reinstate the man, I would say yes, that is the wrong thing to do. It is not his business to insist anything of another country if it does not directly affect the security of the US.
YOu people don't even understand the most obvious nuance of politics. That one little word makes all the difference. Nothing has been insisted. Obama has stated his position. You fucking hacks wouldn't make it a week in politics.