Holocaust Denial: Nope

[SweetSue92]

I never received a good education so I rely on forums to get a good read on what happen.. I must say the more I hear the more I agree with the deniers.. they provide evidence.

I think jews have lied.

You're joking right. This is satire. I hope.

 

[fncceo]

I think jews have lied.

I only lie to people I date.

 

[K9Buck]

Well if you want to a concentration camp and died, then they were known as death camps.

Before the war and early in the war, I know that the Germans had concentration camps and that people would be sent there and then be released later after being "redeemed". It's possible that some of these (or all) later turned into death camps. In any event, the Jews were all sent to death camps where a relative handful were used as slave labor until they dropped dead while the vast majority were gassed in chambers and then cremated. The primary reason for Auschwitz was to have a more efficient method of destroying the bodies. As one Nazi said, killing the Jews is easy, getting rid of their bodies is the hard part.

 

[fncceo]

Im part jew, so i can say that

Actually, you can't .... there is no such thing as a fractional Jew ... that was an invention of the same folks who brought us The Holocaust that you don't believe was 'all that bad'.

 

[K9Buck]

If there is only THE truth, why is there so much disagreement over what is going on about the border and the president?

Start a thread about it rather than trying to hijack this one.

 

[SweetSue92]

The holocaust happened, it just wasnt that bad
Im part jew, so i can say that

Wtf? It just wasnt that bad?

Your cred just tanked on here

Lol the holocaust was horrible. I was just being my normal asshole self.
But it wasnt as bad conpared to many other incidents in recent history.
I have always wondered why the holocaust gets so much attention and not others.
People barely talk about the great leap forward and it was the biggest mass killing in history.

Those deaths were horrid and no one minimalizes them--or I don't. But what makes the Holocaust so horrid is the industrial revolutionizing of death--the horror of it all. Not just execution, but the terror of the gas chambers. It's why you hear so much about that and not so much about the Einsatzgruppen, the roaming death squads before the gas chambers, which actually did kill more people.

 

[K9Buck]

The gas chambers were more humane...

Nothing "humane" about it. Gas chambers were used because it was quick and easy for the Germans, not because it was more "humane" for the Jews, who the Nazis didn't even consider to be "human".

 

[mdk]

I never received a good education so I rely on forums to get a good read on what happen.. I must say the more I hear the more I agree with the deniers.. they provide evidence.

I think jews have lied.

You're joking right. This is satire. I hope.

Not satire, but self-identification. lol

 

[K9Buck]

Operation Paperclip - Wikipedia

I read the book. It was a good read. We chose to take in some of the Nazi's brightest, including some war criminals, in order to give us an advantage over the Soviets.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

The holocaust happened, it just wasnt that bad
Im part jew, so i can say that

Wtf? It just wasnt that bad?

Your cred just tanked on here

Lol the holocaust was horrible. I was just being my normal asshole self.
But it wasnt as bad conpared to many other incidents in recent history.
I have always wondered why the holocaust gets so much attention and not others.
People barely talk about the great leap forward and it was the biggest mass killing in history.

It's connected to the biggest war in history and took place in Europe

 

[SweetSue92]

Well if you want to a concentration camp and died, then they were known as death camps.

Before the war and early in the war, I know that the Germans had concentration camps and that people would be sent there and then be released later after being "redeemed". It's possible that some of these (or all) later turned into death camps. In any event, the Jews were all sent to death camps where a relative handful were used as slave labor until they dropped dead while the vast majority were gassed in chambers and then cremated. The primary reason for Auschwitz was to have a more efficient method of destroying the bodies. As one Nazi said, killing the Jews is easy, getting rid of their bodies is the hard part.

In "Night", Elie Wiesel reported that at the very end of the Holocaust, wagons of children were driven alive into trenches of fire. I don't know if that's been "historically" proven beyond his eyewitness account.

 

[TNHarley]

Im part jew, so i can say that

Actually, you can't .... there is no such thing as a fractional Jew ... that was an invention of the same folks who brought us The Holocaust that you don't believe was 'all that bad'.

Actually i can. Im here in TN in the flesh

 

[SweetSue92]

Where did Penny go? I mean I hope she won't run away from her beliefs. What's to be ashamed of, right?

 

[Lysistrata]

There is a simple reason for the criminalization of Holocaust Denial in Europe... the actual danger of Nazi resurgence.

When the Nazis were destroyed by the Allies in 1945, millions of loyal Nazis survived and many of those would have loved to have seen Nazism reborn in a kinder, gentler, less murdery way. Nazism was popular with Germans before the end of World War 2 and even had many fans in Europe, Britain, and America.

The Nazis are irrevocably linked in History to the slaughter of millions of Jewish civilians. For this alone, it has poisoned the ideology to the point it can never be revived.

But, many believe, if they can erase the connection between Nazi ideology and The Holocaust, it will pave the way for Nazism to return as a political system.

Fearing a real threat from former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, most of Europe criminalized the denial or trivialization of The Holocaust to prevent just such a resurgence.

How many are there? I've never met one though I have met a few anti-Israel mob who are Holocaust Deniers. (They conflate Holocaust Denial and anti-Israeli sentiments). Their root is not Nazism but anti-American Socialism/Communism. One look at that idiot Corbyn and you see this in action.

On Wednesday, the Politics Home website reported that the U.K. Labour Party leader (at the time a backbencher) signed a parliamentary motion in 2011 calling for Holocaust Memorial Day to be renamed.

Corbyn backed a proposal by John McDonnell that Britain should rename the event Genocide Memorial Day – Never Again for Anyone. (McDonnell is now Corbyn's shadow chancellor in the opposition.) Further, the debate was slated to take place on Holocaust Memorial Day.

Reducing the importance of the Holocaust is merely a step towards condemning Israel and the US.

Greg

You are really an idiot aren't you. The holocaust never happened, it happened only to the jews.

First, you say that the Holocaust "never happened." Next you say that it "happened only to the jews." It either did happen or it didn't.

We have seen the pictures of naked women lined up for the gas chambers, trying to cover their genitals with their hands. Bones piled high. Boxes of wedding rings stripped off of them. Pictures of little kids in the Warsaw ghetto with their hands up. Pictures of skeletal survivors, many of them worked as slaves. Pictures of ovens and gas chambers.

When, if ever, do we evolve a sense of deep shame? Take a look at what happened to these poor people. How could anyone do this?

I am a metro ride away from the Holocaust Museum, but I have never visited because I can't. There is no way for anyone to atone for this.

Don't deflect on the basis that other bad things happened to other people. I can't atone for what happened at Wounded Knee, to the slaves on American plantations, to the Armenians.

The point here is to remember that these things happened, and resolve that they never, ever happen again.

 

[TNHarley]

The gas chambers were more humane...

Nothing "humane" about it. Gas chambers were used because it was quick and easy for the Germans, not because it was more "humane" for the Jews, who the Nazis didn't even consider to be "human".

So it was more humane on accident.

 

[MisterBeale]

If there is only THE truth, why is there so much disagreement over what is going on about the border and the president?

Start a thread about it rather than trying to hijack this one.

My point is, she is wrong.

Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Sweet Sue is acting like an ignorant Demagogue. Not a whole lot different than a Hitler or Marx.

If she wants to understand the nature of "TRUTH," she needs to understand;

Epistemology

 

[SweetSue92]

If there is only THE truth, why is there so much disagreement over what is going on about the border and the president?

Start a thread about it rather than trying to hijack this one.

My point is, she is wrong.

Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Sweet Sue is acting like an ignorant Demagogue. Not a whole lot different than a Hitler or Marx.

If she wants to understand the nature of "TRUTH," she needs to understand;

Epistemology

This made me laugh out loud, not even kidding. I do understand truth but you are woefully confused and are now trying to save face.

You came in here whining about the existence of a very well documented and recorded historical event--about as close to historical truth as one can ever get. At least here we have incontrovertible FACTS with video and photography evidence, plus mounds and mounds of other hard evidence. IOW, knowing that the Holocaust really happened is a JUSTIFIED BELIEF

You then sought to muddy that up with a Moral Dilemma like the border policy. Dude that is not like the truth above and you know it. It is more based on OPINION.

Now get on.

 

[K9Buck]

My point is, she is wrong. Truth? It depends on a persons point of view.

Did the Nazis engage in genocide against the Jews and murder 6 million of them in the process?

 

[Penelope]

There is a simple reason for the criminalization of Holocaust Denial in Europe... the actual danger of Nazi resurgence.

When the Nazis were destroyed by the Allies in 1945, millions of loyal Nazis survived and many of those would have loved to have seen Nazism reborn in a kinder, gentler, less murdery way. Nazism was popular with Germans before the end of World War 2 and even had many fans in Europe, Britain, and America.

The Nazis are irrevocably linked in History to the slaughter of millions of Jewish civilians. For this alone, it has poisoned the ideology to the point it can never be revived.

But, many believe, if they can erase the connection between Nazi ideology and The Holocaust, it will pave the way for Nazism to return as a political system.

Fearing a real threat from former Nazis and Nazi sympathizers, most of Europe criminalized the denial or trivialization of The Holocaust to prevent just such a resurgence.

How many are there? I've never met one though I have met a few anti-Israel mob who are Holocaust Deniers. (They conflate Holocaust Denial and anti-Israeli sentiments). Their root is not Nazism but anti-American Socialism/Communism. One look at that idiot Corbyn and you see this in action.

On Wednesday, the Politics Home website reported that the U.K. Labour Party leader (at the time a backbencher) signed a parliamentary motion in 2011 calling for Holocaust Memorial Day to be renamed.

Corbyn backed a proposal by John McDonnell that Britain should rename the event Genocide Memorial Day – Never Again for Anyone. (McDonnell is now Corbyn's shadow chancellor in the opposition.) Further, the debate was slated to take place on Holocaust Memorial Day.

Reducing the importance of the Holocaust is merely a step towards condemning Israel and the US.

Greg

You are really an idiot aren't you. The holocaust never happened, it happened only to the jews.

First, you say that the Holocaust "never happened." Next you say that it "happened only to the jews." It either did happen or it didn't.

We have seen the pictures of naked women lined up for the gas chambers, trying to cover their genitals with their hands. Bones piled high. Boxes of wedding rings stripped off of them. Pictures of little kids in the Warsaw ghetto with their hands up. Pictures of skeletal survivors, many of them worked as slaves. Pictures of ovens and gas chambers.

When, if ever, do we evolve a sense of deep shame? Take a look at what happened to these poor people. How could anyone do this?

I am a metro ride away from the Holocaust Museum, but I have never visited because I can't. There is no way for anyone to atone for this.

Don't deflect on the basis that other bad things happened to other people. I can't atone for what happened at Wounded Knee, to the slaves on American plantations, to the Armenians.

The point here is to remember that these things happened, and resolve that they never, ever happen again.

What happened, WWII, yes we should never repeat it.

 

[K9Buck]

Mental illness is a serious disease.