Hobby Lobby Should Hold Religious Services In Their Stores

[Quantum Windbag]

I use government provided roads and bridges every day. I have safe food and water supplies. A government police force keeps me safe, so does the fire department

Is that over your one percent?

Why don't you start a thread about it.

No use arguing with you about what government does. I don't see the federal government doing any of this, and that's what I was talking about.

Now do you have a comment on the topic in this thread, or are you going to continue to deflect to another topic.

Why does government suddenly become evil and inept when it reaches the federal level

Government operates at the level it most efficiently implemented. We can't have 50 state run armies

Government is always inept at whatever level it runs, it just happens to work slightly better the smaller it is,

 

[AmericanFirst]

To obamaturd, and to all you idiots who support the idiot in chief. Idiot.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

It doesn't matter who owns Hobby Lobby. It's NOT a church, It's a BUSINESS.

and EXACTLY WHY can't a person practice his religion within his own business......?

No one says he can’t.

He may not, however, hide behind his religious beliefs in an effort to avoid Federal labor law.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the Religious Freedom Restoration act and the way that the Supreme Court has used it to rule against the federal government when it implements policies that affect anyone's religious beliefs.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

and EXACTLY WHY can't a person practice his religion within his own business......?

No one says he can’t.

He may not, however, hide behind his religious beliefs in an effort to avoid Federal labor law.

so now Obamacare is a "Federal labor law"...........?

Are you trying to confuse the wannabe lawyer? He reminds me of Deck Shiflett, but not as smart.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

Hobby Lobby is losing a legal battle against a government forcing them to adhere to Obamacare. The solution is to hold religious services in all Hobby Lobby stores nationwide and apply for tax-free status.

Obama loves going around our laws so I think it's time everybody in America started lawyering-up and doing the same. If the Obama Administration insists on acting like a Hugo Chavez type government I think it's time we started fighting back.

Hobby Lobby is owned by an evangelical group and this is the first non Catholic group that has become embroiled in a legal depute in the 4 year old law that has yet to take effect. I don't believe in the same things that strict evangelicals do but this used to be a free country.

This kind of governmental oppression is just the beginning. Every Socialist country starts out this way. Eventually they're dictating everything. Government is notorious at starting out with laws that look harmless and cost X amount of dollars and then morphing into something totally different and costing much much more.

My solution may have an effect that Obama and his Christian hating cronies hadn't counted on. Turn every Hobby Lobby into a church on Sunday. Sort of giving Obama a taste of his own medicine.

Does anyone actually still believe that Obama is a Christian?

The person who suggests this obviously doesn't understand the tax law OR the ACA requirements.

NOt seeing a problem here. Most companies are complying with the law because paying for contraception saves them money in the long run.

I love how people spout that truism like it is gospel, reminds me of the people who insist the world was created in 6 days because it says so in the Bible.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

No one says he can’t.

He may not, however, hide behind his religious beliefs in an effort to avoid Federal labor law.

But apparently you can hide behind your status as a Democrat special interest group to avoid Federal labor law.

Over Half of All Obamacare Waivers Given to Union Members | The Weekly Standard

If everyone had the kind of medical benefits the Unions give out, we probably wouldn't need ObamaCare.

The Unions usually have the best medical plans, which is what happens when you GASP give workers a say in something.

Obamacare is going to tax people who get the kind of benefits unions get. How stupid do you feel now?

 

[candycorn]

Does anyone else get the feeling that if this board had been around in the sixties these conservatives would be applauding every attempt made by businesses to keep segregationist policies fully intact?

 

[daveman]

Does anyone else get the feeling that if this board had been around in the sixties these conservatives would be applauding every attempt made by businesses to keep segregationist policies fully intact?

Only the people who believe leftist lies about conservatives.

 

[JoeB131]

The person who suggests this obviously doesn't understand the tax law OR the ACA requirements.

NOt seeing a problem here. Most companies are complying with the law because paying for contraception saves them money in the long run.

I love how people spout that truism like it is gospel, reminds me of the people who insist the world was created in 6 days because it says so in the Bible.

It's a truism because it's simple math.

A woman's birth control costs about $300.00 a year. A live birth costs $3000.00 without complications. If it's something like Caesarian, it can go up to $10,000. Not to mention all the money it costs them with maternity leave, having to hire temporary replacements, lost productivity, and so on.

 

[candycorn]

Does anyone else get the feeling that if this board had been around in the sixties these conservatives would be applauding every attempt made by businesses to keep segregationist policies fully intact?

Only the people who believe leftist lies about conservatives.

You guys would be here crying your pathetic little hearts out decrying the loss of State's rights to allow their schools to keep blacks in separate classrooms. Don't pretend like you wouldn't be. Have the integrity to be honest.

 

[AmyNation]

Does anyone else get the feeling that if this board had been around in the sixties these conservatives would be applauding every attempt made by businesses to keep segregationist policies fully intact?

I've had people on this board argue that position.

 

[Katzndogz]

Blacks prefer being in separate classrooms now!
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/e...t-of-segregated-education.html?pagewanted=all


In the broad resegregation of the nation’s schools that has transpired over recent decades, New York’s public-school system looms as one of the most segregated. While the city’s public-school population looks diverse — 40.3 percent Hispanic, 32 percent black, 14.9 percent white and 13.7 percent Asian — many of its schools are nothing of the sort.

About 650 of the nearly 1,700 schools in the system have populations that are 70 percent a single race, a New York Times analysis of schools data for the 2009-10 school year found; more than half the city’s schools are at least 90 percent black and Hispanic. Explore Charter is one of them: of the school’s 502 students from kindergarten through eighth grade this school year, 92.7 percent are black, 5.7 percent are Hispanic, and a scattering are of mixed race. None are white or Asian.

There is nothing at all wrong with segregation. Segregation is beneficial. It all depends on who is doing the segregation. If its white people, that, of course, is bad, the worst kind of racisim. If its blacks segregating themselves, that's good.

No one would suggest that all black schools or all black classes should be integrated by force, the way white schools were. That would be an absolute denial of freedom of association - for blacks.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

The person who suggests this obviously doesn't understand the tax law OR the ACA requirements.

NOt seeing a problem here. Most companies are complying with the law because paying for contraception saves them money in the long run.

I love how people spout that truism like it is gospel, reminds me of the people who insist the world was created in 6 days because it says so in the Bible.

It's a truism because it's simple math.

A woman's birth control costs about $300.00 a year. A live birth costs $3000.00 without complications. If it's something like Caesarian, it can go up to $10,000. Not to mention all the money it costs them with maternity leave, having to hire temporary replacements, lost productivity, and so on.

Unless every woman in the country never has a child again employers are going to end up paying for contraceptives and child birth. Care to explain how that saves money?

 

[GWV5903]

Do whatever you can do to prevent your employees from getting healthcare

It is the American way

The systems needs repairs dumb ass, it's not broken...

No one is denied health care you stupid POS, just admit it, you want everyone at the same level...

Come on, say it, you're Pro Socialism, you're tough behind that keyboard, be a man, admit it, you're a Socialist at heart...

Coward...

Socialism?

Yes, I believe in a free public education for all. Police and Fire Protection. Government food and drug protections. Government provided roads and bridges. A publicly funded military.

What is wrong with socialism?

The question in itself is stupid...

But you already knew that...

 

[konradv]

I love how people spout that truism like it is gospel, reminds me of the people who insist the world was created in 6 days because it says so in the Bible.

It's a truism because it's simple math.

A woman's birth control costs about $300.00 a year. A live birth costs $3000.00 without complications. If it's something like Caesarian, it can go up to $10,000. Not to mention all the money it costs them with maternity leave, having to hire temporary replacements, lost productivity, and so on.

Unless every woman in the country never has a child again employers are going to end up paying for contraceptives and child birth. Care to explain how that saves money?

It's only right. Don't they pay for the drugs that help men get them pregnant? Apparently dysfunction is everybody's problem, but pregnancy is only the woman's?

 

[Political Junky]

Do whatever you can do to prevent your employees from getting healthcare

It is the American way

The systems needs repairs dumb ass, it's not broken...

No one is denied health care you stupid POS, just admit it, you want everyone at the same level...

Come on, say it, you're Pro Socialism, you're tough behind that keyboard, be a man, admit it, you're a Socialist at heart...

Coward...

You're so wrong, either by ignorance or you're lying.
Do you think people can get long term cancer treatment from the ER?

 

[JoeB131]

I love how people spout that truism like it is gospel, reminds me of the people who insist the world was created in 6 days because it says so in the Bible.

It's a truism because it's simple math.

A woman's birth control costs about $300.00 a year. A live birth costs $3000.00 without complications. If it's something like Caesarian, it can go up to $10,000. Not to mention all the money it costs them with maternity leave, having to hire temporary replacements, lost productivity, and so on.

Unless every woman in the country never has a child again employers are going to end up paying for contraceptives and child birth. Care to explain how that saves money?

Wow... you know, I realize you are like a crazy person and stuff... but.. wow!

From a PURE business perspective, it's great if your employees NEVER have babies. Probably not good for the country or society, but hey, if she's going to have a baby, have it on someone else's dime.

 

[Moonglow]

The solution is to close all the Hobby Lobby stores fire all the employees and move to a country that will permit religious freedom. Like Russia, since it overcame communism, it has become quite religious and permits all faiths.

tell that to the Jews and the progrom

Democrats wouldn't at all mind a Christian pogrom right here. It would be another strike for their freedom to end Christianity. Just pass a few laws prohibiting the practice of religion. Start confining it out of the public square and demand that Christians stop living their beliefs.

What beliefs? I see no belief in a guy from Palestine. They live the way they like and call it Christian. Hardly did Christ live like that, or want his followers to act as such.

 

[GWV5903]

Do whatever you can do to prevent your employees from getting healthcare

It is the American way

The systems needs repairs dumb ass, it's not broken...

No one is denied health care you stupid POS, just admit it, you want everyone at the same level...

Come on, say it, you're Pro Socialism, you're tough behind that keyboard, be a man, admit it, you're a Socialist at heart...

Coward...

You're so wrong, either by ignorance or you're lying.
Do you think people can get long term cancer treatment from the ER?

Are you really that uninformed?

Do you really believe we let people without insurance just die without cancer treatment?

The truth will scare you...

Stop believing the liberal lies...

 

[Political Junky]

The systems needs repairs dumb ass, it's not broken...

No one is denied health care you stupid POS, just admit it, you want everyone at the same level...

Come on, say it, you're Pro Socialism, you're tough behind that keyboard, be a man, admit it, you're a Socialist at heart...

Coward...

You're so wrong, either by ignorance or you're lying.
Do you think people can get long term cancer treatment from the ER?

Are you really that uninformed?

Do you really believe we let people without insurance just die without cancer treatment?

The truth will scare you...

Stop believing the liberal lies...

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