Hitler and the right

[edthecynic]

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology. Hitler learned that in order to come to power by legal means he needed to court the powers that be - the military and big business. Hitler did so by promising rearmament and the destruction of organized labor, both of which he quickly did after assuming power.

Ever wonder what happened to Gregory and Otto Strasser, two leaders of the Nazi movement who leaned towards socilalism. They were booted from the party. What about those millions of stormtroopers who helped Hitler obtain absolute power? The brownshirts were dismantled because they advocated a continuous revolution and Hitler wanted to preserve the existing power structures of the military and business to begin his road to comquest.

The Nazis never won a majority in an election. Hitler was appointed chancelor of a conservative coalition government. The social democrats and the communists were left out of this coalition.The conservatives had nothing but contempt for the democratic ideals of the Weimar Republic. They also feared the communism of the left.

Despite their name, the Nazis had little to do with sociialism. They were a party of the far right. There is no comparison to Obama and Nazi Germany in ideology or principle.

All very true. I wouldn't claim that Hitler was a conservative in the true sense of the word but he certainly drew the support of a lot of conservatives.

He also drew the support of a lot of progressives, including George Bernard Shaw.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ]George Bernard Shaw Defends Hitler, Mass Murder - YouTube[/ame]

Go ahead, try to tell me that Shaw, a noted socialist and member of the Fabian Society, was a conservative.

Don't you mindless brainwashed assholes ever check CON$ervoFascist lies for yourselves? Satirist Shaw was MOCKING Eugenicists in that video, as all you lying scum know full well!!

But if you really want someone spouting the Nazi rhetoric, here is your guy!

May 25, 2012
RUSH: And I know that 88 million Americans are not working but they're eating, and it's a statistic that worries me.
It's quite telling that 88 million are not working but they're eating.

 

[Ravi]

All very true. I wouldn't claim that Hitler was a conservative in the true sense of the word but he certainly drew the support of a lot of conservatives.

He also drew the support of a lot of progressives, including George Bernard Shaw.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQvsf2MUKRQ]George Bernard Shaw Defends Hitler, Mass Murder - YouTube[/ame]

Go ahead, try to tell me that Shaw, a noted socialist and member of the Fabian Society, was a conservative.

Don't you mindless brainwashed assholes ever check CON$ervoFascist lies for yourselves? Satirist Shaw was MOCKING Eugenicists in that video, as all you lying scum know full well!!

But if you really want someone spouting the Nazi rhetoric, here is your guy!

May 25, 2012
RUSH: And I know that 88 million Americans are not working but they're eating, and it's a statistic that worries me.
It's quite telling that 88 million are not working but they're eating.

LMAO! I did not know that but you'll never be able to convince Windbag. Once he thinks up a "fact" there is no going back with him.

 

[edthecynic]

He also drew the support of a lot of progressives, including George Bernard Shaw.

George Bernard Shaw Defends Hitler, Mass Murder - YouTube

Go ahead, try to tell me that Shaw, a noted socialist and member of the Fabian Society, was a conservative.

Don't you mindless brainwashed assholes ever check CON$ervoFascist lies for yourselves? Satirist Shaw was MOCKING Eugenicists in that video, as all you lying scum know full well!!

But if you really want someone spouting the Nazi rhetoric, here is your guy!

May 25, 2012
RUSH: And I know that 88 million Americans are not working but they're eating, and it's a statistic that worries me.
It's quite telling that 88 million are not working but they're eating.

LMAO! I did not know that but you'll never be able to convince Windbag. Once he thinks up a "fact" there is no going back with him.

CON$ know nothing about Shaw except the misinformation of GOP hate pundits who deliberately take Shaw's SATIRE out of context, in spite of the fact that in Shavian Eugenics women subconsciously select the mates most likely to give them superior children. So Shaw's eugenics was purely the elective choice made by women of who they mate with, with no murder at all.

Unless you believe women kill their mates.

 

[Ravi]

Don't you mindless brainwashed assholes ever check CON$ervoFascist lies for yourselves? Satirist Shaw was MOCKING Eugenicists in that video, as all you lying scum know full well!!

But if you really want someone spouting the Nazi rhetoric, here is your guy!

May 25, 2012
RUSH: And I know that 88 million Americans are not working but they're eating, and it's a statistic that worries me.
It's quite telling that 88 million are not working but they're eating.

LMAO! I did not know that but you'll never be able to convince Windbag. Once he thinks up a "fact" there is no going back with him.

CON$ know nothing about Shaw except the misinformation of GOP hate pundits who deliberately take Shaw's SATIRE out of context, in spite of the fact that in Shavian Eugenics women subconsciously select the mates most likely to give them superior children. So Shaw's eugenics was purely the elective choice made by women of who they mate with, with no murder at all.

Unless you believe women kill their mates.

heh....I just looked him up on "conservapedia" the wikipedia for rightwing koolaid drinkers. It's filled with lies about him, taking his satrical speeches as something the were certainly not.

It's no wonder rightwingloons are ignorant.

 

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welcome back Ravi

 

[Ernie S.]

You're finding individuals. I am showing you entire groups of the far right that supported Hitler.

Hitler was not Stalin. Simple as that

 

[JakeStarkey]

You're finding individuals. I am showing you entire groups of the far right that supported Hitler.

Hitler was not Stalin. Simple as that

They were both evil dictators, Ernie S. Hitler destroyed the left and used the right in Germany. Then he dictated to the remainder. Period.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You're finding individuals. I am showing you entire groups of the far right that supported Hitler.

Hitler was not Stalin. Simple as that

They were both evil dictators, Ernie S. Hitler destroyed the left and used the right in Germany. Then he dictated to the remainder. Period.

Why are you so god damn stupid and force me to to jump all over your ass and kick evey thing you say to the crub.

Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to gain control and after gaining control killed his political rivals. He didn't kill every socialist, leftist or communist he killed anyone that was his rival. Now are you finished saying your stupid shit?

 

[L.K.Eder]

Hitler was not Stalin. Simple as that

They were both evil dictators, Ernie S. Hitler destroyed the left and used the right in Germany. Then he dictated to the remainder. Period.

Why are you so god damn stupid and force me to to jump all over your ass and kick evey thing you say to the crub.

Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to gain control and after gaining control killed his political rivals. He didn't kill every socialist, leftist or communist he killed anyone that was his rival. Now are you finished saying your stupid shit?

you mad, birfer?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hitler was not Stalin. Simple as that

They were both evil dictators, Ernie S. Hitler destroyed the left and used the right in Germany. Then he dictated to the remainder. Period.

Why are you so god damn stupid and force me to to jump all over your ass and kick evey thing you say to the crub. Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to gain control and after gaining control killed his political rivals. He didn't kill every socialist, leftist or communist he killed anyone that was his rival. Now are you finished saying your stupid shit?

Yeah, he is pissed on being put down yesterday for some stuff he was trying to do. That's all the above is: he is pissed.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.' Show us the nationalization of industries, for one. I am glad that you are copying what you have learned from me in your last sentence. You are learning, but still unethical and dishonest.

You can't show at all how he used 'socialism.' You are just creepy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

They were both evil dictators, Ernie S. Hitler destroyed the left and used the right in Germany. Then he dictated to the remainder. Period.

Why are you so god damn stupid and force me to to jump all over your ass and kick evey thing you say to the crub. Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to gain control and after gaining control killed his political rivals. He didn't kill every socialist, leftist or communist he killed anyone that was his rival. Now are you finished saying your stupid shit?

Yeah, he is pissed on being put down yesterday for some stuff he was trying to do. That's all the above is: he is pissed.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.' Show us the nationalization of industries, for one. I am glad that you are copying what you have learned from me in your last sentence. You are learning, but still unethical and dishonest.

You can't show at all how he used 'socialism.' You are just creepy.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.'

He joined the god damn National Socialist German Workers' Party you fucking moron

What hitler wanted before he became dictator

The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

This is what you call using dictator using socialism to gain control

 

[bigrebnc1775]

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My purpose today is to make just two main points: (1) To show why Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And (2) to show why socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian - George Reisman - Mises Daily

 

[JakeStarkey]

Why are you so god damn stupid and force me to to jump all over your ass and kick evey thing you say to the crub. Hitler was a dictator that used socialism to gain control and after gaining control killed his political rivals. He didn't kill every socialist, leftist or communist he killed anyone that was his rival. Now are you finished saying your stupid shit?

Yeah, he is pissed on being put down yesterday for some stuff he was trying to do. That's all the above is: he is pissed.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.' Show us the nationalization of industries, for one. I am glad that you are copying what you have learned from me in your last sentence. You are learning, but still unethical and dishonest.

You can't show at all how he used 'socialism.' You are just creepy.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.'

He joined the god damn National Socialist German Workers' Party you fucking moron

What hitler wanted before he became dictator

The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

This is what you call using dictator using socialism to gain control

Not what we wanted, bigrebnc. Show us how he used socialism. Did he nationalize industry, for instance, or some other type of socialist behavior?

One example, please.

 

[JakeStarkey]

snip

My purpose today is to make just two main points: (1) To show why Nazi Germany was a socialist state, not a capitalist one. And (2) to show why socialism, understood as an economic system based on government ownership of the means of production, positively requires a totalitarian dictatorship.

Why Nazism Was Socialism and Why Socialism Is Totalitarian - George Reisman - Mises Daily

Mises Daily is a corrupt rag from the extremist right and libertarian wings of unreality.

bigreb, you guys are entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts or definitions.

Give us something reputable, please.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yeah, he is pissed on being put down yesterday for some stuff he was trying to do. That's all the above is: he is pissed.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.' Show us the nationalization of industries, for one. I am glad that you are copying what you have learned from me in your last sentence. You are learning, but still unethical and dishonest.

You can't show at all how he used 'socialism.' You are just creepy.

Bigreb, in the meantime, show us all where Hitler used 'socialism.'

He joined the god damn National Socialist German Workers' Party you fucking moron

What hitler wanted before he became dictator

The History Place - Rise of Hitler: The 25 Points of Hitler's Nazi Party

This is what you call using dictator using socialism to gain control

Not what we wanted, bigrebnc. Show us how he used socialism. Did he nationalize industry, for instance, or some other type of socialist behavior?

One example, please.

I don't give a fuck what you wanted you got what Hitler did, so eat shit you lying ass bitch.

 

[JakeStarkey]

So Hitler did not use socialism in taking over or governing Germany. Thank you.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Hitler was so far right he sounded like Obama.

Programme of the NSDAP, 24 February 1920

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology. Hitler learned that in order to come to power by legal means he needed to court the powers that be - the military and big business. Hitler did so by promising rearmament and the destruction of organized labor, both of which he quickly did after assuming power.

Ever wonder what happened to Gregory and Otto Strasser, two leaders of the Nazi movement who leaned towards socilalism. They were booted from the party. What about those millions of stormtroopers who helped Hitler obtain absolute power? The brownshirts were dismantled because they advocated a continuous revolution and Hitler wanted to preserve the existing power structures of the military and business to begin his road to comquest.

The Nazis never won a majority in an election. Hitler was appointed chancelor of a conservative coalition government. The social democrats and the communists were left out of this coalition.The conservatives had nothing but contempt for the democratic ideals of the Weimar Republic. They also feared the communism of the left.

Despite their name, the Nazis had little to do with sociialism. They were a party of the far right. There is no comparison to Obama and Nazi Germany in ideology or principle.

Of course there is.

Promotion of birth control and abortion, for example, among despised classes of people...the Nazis started out targeting the Poles, Obama targets poor black people.

Both Nazis and dems believe it is the responsibility of the State to provide a livelihood for citizens.

Both want to get rid of income earned by work. In other words, get rid of those who have earned more than others.

Nationalization of businesses that have become trusts/corporations.

Profit sharing in industry.

Mandatory insurance.

Prosecution of those whose activities pose a threat to the common interest....

Education that focuses on teaching children to support the state, and all above-average or gifted students' education be funded by, and determined by, the state.

Both believe the nation''s health standards be raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor.

The creation of a strong central power (in the case of Nazis.."for the Reich").

The primary tenets of Nazism.

Also embraced by democrats in the US, and progressives worldwide.

Oh, and lest we forget...they also believed in providing the Reich the authority to take whatever land it wanted, for the "public" good.

So while they did lip service to capitalism, in reality, they were structured as a progressive state. Which is why Progressives flocked to them, and still support the backbone of the Nazi party....selective breeding, abortion, culling.

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barry1960 said

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology.

This is what you call a dictator using socialism to gain control.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So Hitler did not use socialism in taking over or governing Germany. Thank you.

Only if you could be right you might have something.

 

[GHook93]

National SOCIALIST German Workers Party!!!

LOL to you conservatives are the Al Qaeda religious radicals that want a government controls all police state.

Hitler was a socialist, he EXPANDED THE STATE 1000 FOLD, he took private property from citizens (not just Jews) and gave them to the State, he nationalized many industries, he was EXTREMIST animal rightist that would make PETA proud, one of his first acts was TOTAL gun control and contrary to accounts he wasn't religious. He would be more accurately characterized as a atheist or agnostic! He used religion when it suited his purpose, since many of his soldiers were Christians.

Hitler was a leftist dictator! He targeted communist, because he needed a scapegoat for his plans to take over the country. He had the Jews, Romas, Communist, Gays and Dissenters!

 

[Ravi]

So Hitler did not use socialism in taking over or governing Germany. Thank you.

I don't see how he could have attracted all those conservative supporters if he did.

Buggerreb is just a nutcase.