Hitler and the right

[Staidhup]

Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

1. "Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns. He campaigned with attacks on Marxism, making it clear that by Marxism he meant the Social Democrats. Hitler appealed to morality, attacking free love and what he inferred was the immorality of Berlin and some other major cities. He promised to stamp out big city corruption. He called for a spiritual revolution, for a "positive Christianity" and a spirit of national pride. Hitler repeatedly called for national renewal. He and his National Socialists benefited from the recent upheaval in the Soviet Union and the rise in fear and disgust for Bolshevism. His party's posters read:

If you want your country to go Bolshevik, vote Communist. If you want to remain free Germans, vote for the National Socialists."

Hitler and Germany: 1928 to 1935

2. Neville Chamberlain, appeaser in chief, after the Sudetenland was handed over to Hitler, "But the Conservative leader has always expressed his desire to find a peaceful solution to the Fuehrer's wish to create a new - and enlarged - German homeland in Europe."

BBC ON THIS DAY | 30 | 1938: 'Peace for our time' - Chamberlain

3. The French right admired Hitler, "When Socialists and Communists formed a Popular front Government in 1936 there were many French conservatives who boldly announced that Hitler was preferrable to the leadership of the French socialist Leon Blum."

Road to War

4. "right-to-work" anti-labor conservatives were also pro-Hitler. "There were a mulitude of other racists jumping on the Fascist bandwagon. Joseph P. Kamp printed over two million copies of his anti-labor pamphlet, "Join the C.I.O. and Help Build a Soviet America" which he advertised with the Ku Klux Klan. Millionaire John Kirby in Houston began publishing the anti-black, anti-labor Christian American in support of "right to work" legislation"

Support for Hitler (or Fascism) in the United States | Radical Reference

5. Foreshadowing Republican views on the Clinton being concerned about bin laden as a distraction from Lewinsky, "The former president, Herbert Hoover, had become the Republican Party's chief spokesman in foreign affairs, and when Germany seized Moravia and Bohemia, Hoover declared that no clear and present danger existed and that Britain, France and others in Europe would be able to defend themselves should there be war. Hoover spoke of Roosevelt's "dangerous adventures" and argued that Roosevelt was trying to divert people's attention from his failure to end the depression"

The United States, War Preparation, China, and Jewish Immigration: 1938-39

Well Bitch, I see your at it again, still haven't done any research yet have you? Maybe you should spend more time in the library than playing hunt and peck on your computer. Ignorance is bliss is it not?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So Hitler did not use socialism in taking over or governing Germany. Thank you.

I don't see how he could have attracted all those conservative supporters if he did.

Buggerreb is just a nutcase.

That hat is to tight for your fat head take it off so you can get some blood to that pea size nugget you call a brain.

 

[Ravi]

Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

1. "Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns. He campaigned with attacks on Marxism, making it clear that by Marxism he meant the Social Democrats. Hitler appealed to morality, attacking free love and what he inferred was the immorality of Berlin and some other major cities. He promised to stamp out big city corruption. He called for a spiritual revolution, for a "positive Christianity" and a spirit of national pride. Hitler repeatedly called for national renewal. He and his National Socialists benefited from the recent upheaval in the Soviet Union and the rise in fear and disgust for Bolshevism. His party's posters read:

If you want your country to go Bolshevik, vote Communist. If you want to remain free Germans, vote for the National Socialists."

Hitler and Germany: 1928 to 1935

2. Neville Chamberlain, appeaser in chief, after the Sudetenland was handed over to Hitler, "But the Conservative leader has always expressed his desire to find a peaceful solution to the Fuehrer's wish to create a new - and enlarged - German homeland in Europe."

BBC ON THIS DAY | 30 | 1938: 'Peace for our time' - Chamberlain

3. The French right admired Hitler, "When Socialists and Communists formed a Popular front Government in 1936 there were many French conservatives who boldly announced that Hitler was preferrable to the leadership of the French socialist Leon Blum."

Road to War

4. "right-to-work" anti-labor conservatives were also pro-Hitler. "There were a mulitude of other racists jumping on the Fascist bandwagon. Joseph P. Kamp printed over two million copies of his anti-labor pamphlet, "Join the C.I.O. and Help Build a Soviet America" which he advertised with the Ku Klux Klan. Millionaire John Kirby in Houston began publishing the anti-black, anti-labor Christian American in support of "right to work" legislation"

Support for Hitler (or Fascism) in the United States | Radical Reference

5. Foreshadowing Republican views on the Clinton being concerned about bin laden as a distraction from Lewinsky, "The former president, Herbert Hoover, had become the Republican Party's chief spokesman in foreign affairs, and when Germany seized Moravia and Bohemia, Hoover declared that no clear and present danger existed and that Britain, France and others in Europe would be able to defend themselves should there be war. Hoover spoke of Roosevelt's "dangerous adventures" and argued that Roosevelt was trying to divert people's attention from his failure to end the depression"

The United States, War Preparation, China, and Jewish Immigration: 1938-39

Well Bitch, I see your at it again, still haven't done any research yet have you? Maybe you should spend more time in the library than playing hunt and peck on your computer. Ignorance is bliss is it not?

Sorry mom!

I see you had no rebuttal, as usual.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Doubt that Hitler had the support of the conservative right wing?

1. "Hitler found his greatest support in traditionally conservative small towns. He campaigned with attacks on Marxism, making it clear that by Marxism he meant the Social Democrats. Hitler appealed to morality, attacking free love and what he inferred was the immorality of Berlin and some other major cities. He promised to stamp out big city corruption. He called for a spiritual revolution, for a "positive Christianity" and a spirit of national pride. Hitler repeatedly called for national renewal. He and his National Socialists benefited from the recent upheaval in the Soviet Union and the rise in fear and disgust for Bolshevism. His party's posters read:

If you want your country to go Bolshevik, vote Communist. If you want to remain free Germans, vote for the National Socialists."

Hitler and Germany: 1928 to 1935

2. Neville Chamberlain, appeaser in chief, after the Sudetenland was handed over to Hitler, "But the Conservative leader has always expressed his desire to find a peaceful solution to the Fuehrer's wish to create a new - and enlarged - German homeland in Europe."

BBC ON THIS DAY | 30 | 1938: 'Peace for our time' - Chamberlain

3. The French right admired Hitler, "When Socialists and Communists formed a Popular front Government in 1936 there were many French conservatives who boldly announced that Hitler was preferrable to the leadership of the French socialist Leon Blum."

Road to War

4. "right-to-work" anti-labor conservatives were also pro-Hitler. "There were a mulitude of other racists jumping on the Fascist bandwagon. Joseph P. Kamp printed over two million copies of his anti-labor pamphlet, "Join the C.I.O. and Help Build a Soviet America" which he advertised with the Ku Klux Klan. Millionaire John Kirby in Houston began publishing the anti-black, anti-labor Christian American in support of "right to work" legislation"

Support for Hitler (or Fascism) in the United States | Radical Reference

5. Foreshadowing Republican views on the Clinton being concerned about bin laden as a distraction from Lewinsky, "The former president, Herbert Hoover, had become the Republican Party's chief spokesman in foreign affairs, and when Germany seized Moravia and Bohemia, Hoover declared that no clear and present danger existed and that Britain, France and others in Europe would be able to defend themselves should there be war. Hoover spoke of Roosevelt's "dangerous adventures" and argued that Roosevelt was trying to divert people's attention from his failure to end the depression"

The United States, War Preparation, China, and Jewish Immigration: 1938-39

Well Bitch, I see your at it again, still haven't done any research yet have you? Maybe you should spend more time in the library than playing hunt and peck on your computer. Ignorance is bliss is it not?

Sorry mom!

I see you had no rebuttal, as usual.

Still wearing that tight ass hat.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology. Hitler learned that in order to come to power by legal means he needed to court the powers that be - the military and big business. Hitler did so by promising rearmament and the destruction of organized labor, both of which he quickly did after assuming power.

Ever wonder what happened to Gregory and Otto Strasser, two leaders of the Nazi movement who leaned towards socilalism. They were booted from the party. What about those millions of stormtroopers who helped Hitler obtain absolute power? The brownshirts were dismantled because they advocated a continuous revolution and Hitler wanted to preserve the existing power structures of the military and business to begin his road to comquest.

The Nazis never won a majority in an election. Hitler was appointed chancelor of a conservative coalition government. The social democrats and the communists were left out of this coalition.The conservatives had nothing but contempt for the democratic ideals of the Weimar Republic. They also feared the communism of the left.

Despite their name, the Nazis had little to do with sociialism. They were a party of the far right. There is no comparison to Obama and Nazi Germany in ideology or principle.

Of course there is.

Promotion of birth control and abortion, for example, among despised classes of people...the Nazis started out targeting the Poles, Obama targets poor black people.

Both Nazis and dems believe it is the responsibility of the State to provide a livelihood for citizens.

Both want to get rid of income earned by work. In other words, get rid of those who have earned more than others.

Nationalization of businesses that have become trusts/corporations.

Profit sharing in industry.

Mandatory insurance.

Prosecution of those whose activities pose a threat to the common interest....

Education that focuses on teaching children to support the state, and all above-average or gifted students' education be funded by, and determined by, the state.

Both believe the nation''s health standards be raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor.

The creation of a strong central power (in the case of Nazis.."for the Reich").

The primary tenets of Nazism.

Also embraced by democrats in the US, and progressives worldwide.

Oh, and lest we forget...they also believed in providing the Reich the authority to take whatever land it wanted, for the "public" good.

So while they did lip service to capitalism, in reality, they were structured as a progressive state. Which is why Progressives flocked to them, and still support the backbone of the Nazi party....selective breeding, abortion, culling.

Internet History Sourcebooks

koshergrl
Some can't comprehend this one thing I am about to post
barry1960 said

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology.

This is what you call a dictator using socialism to gain control.

Only to a goof ball, not to folks who live in reality. Show us one thing he used as a socialist to get control.

 

[JakeStarkey]

National Workers SOCIALIST Party!!!

LOL to you conservatives are the Al Qaeda religious radicals that want a government controls all police state.

Hitler was a socialist, he EXPANDED THE STATE 1000 FOLD, he took private property from citizens (not just Jews) and gave them to the State, he nationalized many industries, he was EXTREMIST animal rightist that would make PETA proud, one of his first acts was TOTAL gun control and contrary to accounts he wasn't religious. He would be more accurately characterized as a atheist or agnostic! He used religion when it suited his purpose, since many of his soldiers were Christians.

Hitler was a leftist dictator! He targeted communist, because he needed a scapegoat for his plans to take over the country. He had the Jews, Romas, Communist, Gays and Dissenters!

You are a goof ball.

You are describing a dictator, not a socialist.

No, he was not a leftist dictator, and, no, you have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigreb has provided no credible evidence. The far right extremists yell but provide no credible evidence.

They fail.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

National Workers SOCIALIST Party!!!

LOL to you conservatives are the Al Qaeda religious radicals that want a government controls all police state.

Hitler was a socialist, he EXPANDED THE STATE 1000 FOLD, he took private property from citizens (not just Jews) and gave them to the State, he nationalized many industries, he was EXTREMIST animal rightist that would make PETA proud, one of his first acts was TOTAL gun control and contrary to accounts he wasn't religious. He would be more accurately characterized as a atheist or agnostic! He used religion when it suited his purpose, since many of his soldiers were Christians.

Hitler was a leftist dictator! He targeted communist, because he needed a scapegoat for his plans to take over the country. He had the Jews, Romas, Communist, Gays and Dissenters!

You are a goof ball.

You are describing a dictator, not a socialist.

No, he was not a leftist dictator, and, no, you have no idea what you are talking about.

you're a dumb son of a bitch. That's all there is too it.

 

[JakeStarkey]

National Workers SOCIALIST Party!!!

LOL to you conservatives are the Al Qaeda religious radicals that want a government controls all police state.

Hitler was a socialist, he EXPANDED THE STATE 1000 FOLD, he took private property from citizens (not just Jews) and gave them to the State, he nationalized many industries, he was EXTREMIST animal rightist that would make PETA proud, one of his first acts was TOTAL gun control and contrary to accounts he wasn't religious. He would be more accurately characterized as a atheist or agnostic! He used religion when it suited his purpose, since many of his soldiers were Christians.

Hitler was a leftist dictator! He targeted communist, because he needed a scapegoat for his plans to take over the country. He had the Jews, Romas, Communist, Gays and Dissenters!

You are a goof ball.

You are describing a dictator, not a socialist.

No, he was not a leftist dictator, and, no, you have no idea what you are talking about.

you're a dumb son of a bitch. That's all there is too it.

That is a sweet way of saying you have no credible evidence that Hitler used socialism to become dictator.

You are a goof ball.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigreb has provided no credible evidence. The far right extremists yell but provide no credible evidence.

They fail.

What in the fuck is wrong with you? You fucking dumb son of a bitch? I can't help you to comprehend the facts that's up to you.
I need me a new pair of boots this kicking your shit too the curb is fucking my boots up.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

You are a goof ball.

You are describing a dictator, not a socialist.

No, he was not a leftist dictator, and, no, you have no idea what you are talking about.

you're a dumb son of a bitch. That's all there is too it.

That is a sweet way of saying you have no credible evidence that Hitler used socialism to become dictator.

You are a goof ball.

I can't help you with the comprehension skills

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Of course there is.

Promotion of birth control and abortion, for example, among despised classes of people...the Nazis started out targeting the Poles, Obama targets poor black people.

Both Nazis and dems believe it is the responsibility of the State to provide a livelihood for citizens.

Both want to get rid of income earned by work. In other words, get rid of those who have earned more than others.

Nationalization of businesses that have become trusts/corporations.

Profit sharing in industry.

Mandatory insurance.

Prosecution of those whose activities pose a threat to the common interest....

Education that focuses on teaching children to support the state, and all above-average or gifted students' education be funded by, and determined by, the state.

Both believe the nation''s health standards be raised by protecting mothers and infants, by prohibiting child labor.

The creation of a strong central power (in the case of Nazis.."for the Reich").

The primary tenets of Nazism.

Also embraced by democrats in the US, and progressives worldwide.

Oh, and lest we forget...they also believed in providing the Reich the authority to take whatever land it wanted, for the "public" good.

So while they did lip service to capitalism, in reality, they were structured as a progressive state. Which is why Progressives flocked to them, and still support the backbone of the Nazi party....selective breeding, abortion, culling.

Internet History Sourcebooks

koshergrl
Some can't comprehend this one thing I am about to post
barry1960 said

You have quoted the 25 points of the Nationalist Socilaist party in 1920. A lot happened from 1920 to 1933 when the nazis came to power. Namely, the Nazis pretty much dropped the socialist part of their ideology.

This is what you call a dictator using socialism to gain control.

Only to a goof ball, not to folks who live in reality. Show us one thing he used as a socialist to get control.

There's that comprehension fail again.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Another glib remark Odd-dude? That appears to be all you have in your bag of tricks, that an personal attacks. Dig out your thesaurus now so you appear to be smarter than the average kook, but those who 'know' you recognize your posts are never substantive and even average kooks are able to offer counter points once in a while.

 

[JakeStarkey]

bigreb has provided no credible evidence. The far right extremists yell but provide no credible evidence.

They fail.

What in the fuck is wrong with you? You fucking dumb son of a bitch? I can't help you to comprehend the facts that's up to you.
I need me a new pair of boots this kicking your shit too the curb is fucking my boots up.

You have no credible evidence.

Go ahead: show us what Hitler did as a socialist to take power or after he took power.

 

[dilloduck]

Thinking that the our modern left v right debate has anything to do with Hitler is just plain silly.

Claiming that Hitlerism is either a good example socialism OR capitalism gone wrong misses the point entirely.

Of course thinking that our major US political parties are either socialists or facsicsts is equally the stuff of clueless partisans, too, isn't it?

Ravi is silly. It explains the whole thread.

 

[JakeStarkey]

you're a dumb son of a bitch. That's all there is too it.

That is a sweet way of saying you have no credible evidence that Hitler used socialism to become dictator.

You are a goof ball.

I can't help you with the comprehension skills

Says the imbecile.

 

[JakeStarkey]

koshergrl
Some can't comprehend this one thing I am about to post
barry1960 said


This is what you call a dictator using socialism to gain control.

Only to a goof ball, not to folks who live in reality. Show us one thing he used as a socialist to get control.

There's that comprehension fail again.

Show us one thing, please, he used as a socialist to gain power.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Another glib remark Odd-dude? That appears to be all you have in your bag of tricks, that an personal attacks. Dig out your thesaurus now so you appear to be smarter than the average kook, but those who 'know' you recognize your posts are never substantive and even average kooks are able to offer counter points once in a while.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

bigreb has provided no credible evidence. The far right extremists yell but provide no credible evidence.

They fail.

What in the fuck is wrong with you? You fucking dumb son of a bitch? I can't help you to comprehend the facts that's up to you.
I need me a new pair of boots this kicking your shit too the curb is fucking my boots up.

You have no credible evidence.

Go ahead: show us what Hitler did as a socialist to take power or after he took power.

You repeating the same thing over and over will never change the facts.
First thing hitler did was join the National Socialist German Workers' Party

Then gains control of the National Socialist German Workers' Party and kills his political rivals. Does he kill all socialist? No he doesn't just his rivals.

 

[Ravi]

In Nazi Germany, wealthy individuals owned businesses. Hitler's "Charter of Labor" made employees virtual slaves to their master employees.

More rightwing stuff you need to know!