Hiring Illegals: The Joke's on America

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    Joke on America: Hiring Illegals
    Editorial from Christian Science Monitor
    March 28, 2005

    Ha ha ha. That's a good one. Wal-Mart, a company with $285 billion in sales, gets fined a mere $11 million earlier this month for having hundreds of illegal immigrants clean its stores.

    The federal government boasts it's the largest fine of its kind. But for Wal-Mart, it amounts to a rounding error - and no admittance of wrongdoing since it claims it didn't know its contractors hired the illegals.

    If it weren't so easy for illegals and employers to skirt worker ID verification, the settlement's requirement that Wal-Mart also improve hiring controls might have a ripple effect in corporate America. But the piddling fine will hardly deter businesses from hiring cheap labor from a pool of illegals that's surged by 23 percent since 2000.

    It's commonly argued that Americans don't want the jobs illegals take. But a workforce of perhaps 7 million undocumented workers depresses wages. Those wages would readjust upward, and be attractive to Americans and legal immigrants, if the stream of illegals significantly abated. Promise of work in the US encourages illegal (and dangerous) border crossing. That's why the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 provided for sanctions against businesses that hire the undocumented.

    But enforcement is pathetically inadequate, especially since 9/11. Facing limited resources, immigration officials have necessarily redirected priorities to protecting critical infrastructure. For instance, more than 1,100 unauthorized alien workers with access to sensitive areas at airports have been arrested.

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0328/p08s01-comv.html
     
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    I will never complain about ANYBODY hiring illegals to clean their house, business, etc. You know why? Cuz I have lived in 4 different major cities over the past 15 years and all you can find that will do that work is.... illegals. I have an "illegal" clean my house. You know what, we pay her $15 an hour. We have tried hiring companies like Molly Maids, etc., but the work sux and frankly, they generally send out illegals to do the work anyway. They claim they aren't, but they can't speak English. Why should I spend $25 an hour on Molly Maids when I can spend $15 an hour for a nice, sweet, young Mexican girl to come clean my house? Hell, she even irons. Molly Maids won't do that.

    Illegals get hired to clean up because they will do it. Most Americans believe that cleaning somebody's house is "beneath" them. Also, if they can't keep their own house clean, how can I expect them to keep mine clean?
     
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    As long as we provide a job for these illegals, they will continue to find a way to enter the country illegally. What is so wrong with abiding by the laws and entering the country legally? Green cards are available for those who wish to come into this country to work. Why don't these illegals abide by the laws, and why does Mexico aid them in breaking our immigration laws?
     
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    You're ignorant to the fact that the lady you're hiring - potentially - is sapping the local economy a LOT more than 15bux / hour... Who does she go to for medical coverage? You think she's actually PAYING for that coverage? Nope, you and everyone else is...

    Stop being an igorant person and tell her to go back to Mexico and come back LEGALLY..
     
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    First off bud, at least spell ignorant correctly if you are going to throw it out there.

    Secondly, she has insurance through her husband. Also, I should point out and clarify that she is now legal as she has twins that were born here last year. Say what you want. If I could find decent, hard working Americans to do the job, I would hire them. But I can't.

    Say what you want, feel how you want, but life's a bitch and I wouldn't fire her if she was still illegal or not, because she is honest, trustworthy and works her ass off. The last American we hired to clean our house ended up stealing from us. She has never (in over 10 years working for us) taken anything we didn't give her. She just had her twins about 6 months ago and just came back to work for us. During her time off we went through about six different agencies and couldn't find any worth a shit. Like I said, most of the people doing work for even the legit agencies are illegal. They just use fake documents to get hired. And you know what, the damn liberals have made it where you can't fire somebody you suspect of using forged documents. You can't ask!
     
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    Sad, sad, sad situation. It must be the area of the country where you live that you can't find good housekeepers. Where I live housekeeping work is done mostly by mothers with young children who only want to work a few hours a day while their children are in school. As far as I know, they are good employees and their work is of good quality, or at least I haven't heard any complaints from anyone who uses them. I really have no qualms about hiring Hispanics. It's just that I think they should be in this country legally, and there is a process in place to accomplish that.
     
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    I live in Vegas and I can honestly say that if it were not for illegals, this city would not be growing as fast as it is as they do 90% of the construction labour here. The legals can get jobs in the casinos, etc. and can make good money so they won't take the jobs that require hard labour!
     

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