Hillary is Officially 'F*ED': Guccifer - 'I hacked Hillary's server'

[dannyboys]

++6

That makes no sense. If information is classified, it doesn't matter where it is. IOW, it's either classified or not. Leaving it out where it can be easily accessed is the issue.

No. It's not classified until it is. If the sole reason to classify it is so it cannot be made public, then the classification has no need in the email server.

Let's say the State Dept had ongoing operations in a particular region and the official position of the US to it's foreign partners is one thing and what is discussed through email within State is another. Maybe even enough to jeopardize relations if it were public. In that case, routine communications could be classified for the sole purpose of blocking their release. It in no way means they were classified at all in the server or that anyone did anything wrong.

This is the more likely scenario as State has said repeatedly that none of these were classified at the time.

So now explain why the FBI has been INVESTIGATING!!!!! Hillary and her fucking private server/emails for months?
Nothing better to do? Bored? Too many agents with nothing to do? Too much money in the budget?
Go ahead and explain.
This ought to be fucking hilarious!

What have they said the nature of the investigation is?
It's called due diligence. Mostly to satisfy the raging dupes I suspect.

I see now. The FBI conducts extensive INVESTIGATIONS into possible criminal behavior just to satisfy the "dupes"?
That would be news to anyone employed by the FBI.
You really ought to wise up pal.
With each post you are looking more and more like a fool.

We'll see who "wised up" soon enough.
Can't wait for those tearful conspiracy rants from the dupes when she's cleared.

I'll make you a bet.
If the FBI recommends even one charge be brought against Hillary for any reason relating to her emails you leave this forum forever. No coming back as another forum member ever. You will be finished here.
If the FBI's investigation decides no charges should be recommended to the AG for any reason against Hillary I will leave this forum for ever. No coming back ever.
WELL?

 

[hadit]

Hillary had information on her server that was so sensitive that it could not be released in any form. That's not a gray area. Sorry, but to claim this is a defense is to, as I said before, admit that she is grossly incompetent to hold office.

Those 22 emails were upgraded to TS upon review for release. That means it was upgraded because it could not be released. It doesn't mean it would be classified also on the server but that as of the review it could not be made public. None of these emails were ever meant to be public. It could be as simple as not wanting discussions and processes of the State Dept made public to the world. They may contain information that could compromise ongoing negotiations or other operations. It never had to be classified on the server for that to be the case.

That's some fancy footwork.
Nothing changes the fact she had a secret illegal private server installed in her bathroom. God knows how many countries hacked her server. Russia and Israel for sure.
She attempted to destroy government emails. She was caught red handed.
Her little fucking rat Blumenthal was the gateway to her email server.
Fucking poetic justice.
Hillary has been in close proximity to sensitive government documents for decades.
And she was too fucking dumb/careless, as Obama calls her, to at least clue in that some of the emails coming to her server were very sensitive and potentially harmful to US interests if any hacker got ahold of them?
That is mind numbing stupid or she is so fucking nihilistic she believed she was too 'smart' to ever be caught......or both.
The bitch has had her little chat with Comey now. Two-three weeks before the FBI recommends felony charges be brought. It's irrelevant what Lynch does then.
Hillary will waddle off to her multimillion dollar mansion and drink herself to death in Huma's arms.

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I don't want either in the White House without a visitor's pass. Why would you?

 

[hadit]

Dude, you seem incapable of seeing anything beyond the narrowest of things that conveniently spin things positively for Hillary. Your laughable post only slightly reaches the level of deserving a reply, but here goes.

1. I didn't ever say Hillary would be sent to prison. I have, however, stated that any ordinary person who did what she did would have been charged long ago. I don't think that's even controversial.
2. If you are seriously saying that Hillary received emails containing classified information and DID NOT KNOW IT, you are not defending her, because you're basically saying she was incompetent as Sec State and should never see the inside of the White House again without a visitor's pass.
3. I do not believe Hillary will go to prison. The best outcome we can hope for from this is for her to be nominated, then this to make her so toxic that she cannot possibly win the White House and democrat hopes for totalitarian control will be dashed for another generation.

ICYMI:

I've posted this numerous times:

Clinton emails reveal murky world of "top secret" documents | TheHill
<snip>
"Information in a message can be declared classified years after it was initially sent. And the State Department and Intelligence Community can also look at the same text and come to opposite conclusions over whether it contains secret information.

And that’s where the discrepancies are arising between the Office of the Inspector General (IG) of Intelligence Community, Clinton’s campaign and the State Department

<snip>

"The watchdog said it found a number of Clinton’s emails that currently contained “classified intelligence community information.” But the State Department has said it did not consider that language classified at the time those emails were sent.

Both sides can be correct, said several former officials.

Not only is each side entitled to different standards of classification, but information can become classified almost retroactively, as situations and guidelines change over the years.

An IG could decide “it is a completely different scenario,” and that certain details must now be protected, said Michael Brown, a former DHS director of cybersecurity coordination and current vice president at security firm RSA.

And culturally, intelligence agencies tend to lean toward classification more than an agency like State would, several former employees on both sides agreed."

Hillary had information on her server that was so sensitive that it could not be released in any form. That's not a gray area. Sorry, but to claim this is a defense is to, as I said before, admit that she is grossly incompetent to hold office.

Those 22 emails were upgraded to TS upon review for release. That means it was upgraded because it could not be released. It doesn't mean it would be classified also on the server but that as of the review it could not be made public. None of these emails were ever meant to be public. It could be as simple as not wanting discussions and processes of the State Dept made public to the world. They may contain information that could compromise ongoing negotiations or other operations. It never had to be classified on the server for that to be the case.

That makes no sense. If information is classified, it doesn't matter where it is. IOW, it's either classified or not. Leaving it out where it can be easily accessed is the issue.

No. It's not classified until it is. If the sole reason to classify it is so it cannot be made public, then the classification has no need in the email server.

Let's say the State Dept had ongoing operations in a particular region and the official position of the US to it's foreign partners is one thing and what is discussed through email within State is another. Maybe even enough to jeopardize relations if it were public. In that case, routine communications could be classified for the sole purpose of blocking their release. It in no way means they were classified at all in the server or that anyone did anything wrong.

This is the more likely scenario as State has said repeatedly that none of these were classified at the time.

They would not be classified at that high a level if that were the case. There were emails on her server with information that is so sensitive that it cannot be released in any form. The reason they were not classified at the time is Hillary did not classify them, though she is ultimately responsible for them.

 

[hadit]

That's some fancy footwork.
Nothing changes the fact she had a secret illegal private server installed in her bathroom. God knows how many countries hacked her server. Russia and Israel for sure.
She attempted to destroy government emails. She was caught red handed.
Her little fucking rat Blumenthal was the gateway to her email server.
Fucking poetic justice.
Hillary has been in close proximity to sensitive government documents for decades.
And she was too fucking dumb/careless, as Obama calls her, to at least clue in that some of the emails coming to her server were very sensitive and potentially harmful to US interests if any hacker got ahold of them?
That is mind numbing stupid or she is so fucking nihilistic she believed she was too 'smart' to ever be caught......or both.
The bitch has had her little chat with Comey now. Two-three weeks before the FBI recommends felony charges be brought. It's irrelevant what Lynch does then.
Hillary will waddle off to her multimillion dollar mansion and drink herself to death in Huma's arms.

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

 

[dannyboys]

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

'Guccifer' has 2 gigabytes sitting on a fucking cloud.
Wait and watch.

 

[hadit]

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

'Guccifer' has 2 gigabytes sitting on a fucking cloud.
Wait and watch.

It would not surprise me in the least were Hillary to be ranting at Putin about how she wanted him to pull back in one of the European states and he would slide a thumb drive across the table and tell her to take a look at it before she demanded anything else.

 

[JoeB131]

Obviously there is something to this or the FBI wouldn't be investigating.

In fact , it has been PROVEN that classified material went through her server. The only question is , who is culpable.

again, please point out to me where someone was prosecuted for RECEIVING classified information.

It hasn't happened.

 

[JoeB131]

You seem very certain that you know what's in them. Like I said, I don't recall seeing you in any of the meetings. There was that one guy that sat in the back and picked his nose the whole time. Was that you?

You weren't at the meetings either. the thing is, after hearing you cry wolf for the last 25 years, I'm rather dubious there is a wolf.

1. Because you post more frequently than I do?
2. Because those who give you ratings are more easily amused than those who give them to me?
3. Because you've been around here longer than I have?

Are you sure you didn't think about any of those before you posted that?

Again, you made the comment that "nobody takes me seriously". I've been here for five years and have garnered close to 12,000 ratings, half of which have been 'Thanks". You've been here for 3 years, have garnered less than 3000 ratings, and less than a thousand thanks.

Maybe people don't take you seriously.

If you have no idea what's in them, why are you so certain there's nothing sensitive that she should have better protected? You know, stuff that is so sensitive that it can't be released in any form? You can't have it both ways. Also, what I'm accusing her of doing is easily proven. If you are Secretary of State and you funnel ALL your official correspondence through a poorly secured private server to the exclusion of all official channels and leave the most sensitive of sensitive information on it, you're being remarkably careless. Now, what were you ranting on about again?

Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing, and you didn't care then.

Irrelevant. He led the way to the GOP taking the House for the first time in 40 some years. Without him setting the tone and the direction, Congress would not have been able to hold Bubba's feet to the fire as much as they did.

Actually, Gingrich greatest accomplishment was getting Clinton a second term. Because he was such an unlikable troll that people forgot how much they disliked Clinton and started disliking him more.

 

[JoeB131]

It would not surprise me in the least were Hillary to be ranting at Putin about how she wanted him to pull back in one of the European states and he would slide a thumb drive across the table and tell her to take a look at it before she demanded anything else.

I think you read too many cheap spy novels.

 

[Faun]

You seem very certain that you know what's in them. Like I said, I don't recall seeing you in any of the meetings. There was that one guy that sat in the back and picked his nose the whole time. Was that you?

You weren't at the meetings either. the thing is, after hearing you cry wolf for the last 25 years, I'm rather dubious there is a wolf.

1. Because you post more frequently than I do?
2. Because those who give you ratings are more easily amused than those who give them to me?
3. Because you've been around here longer than I have?

Are you sure you didn't think about any of those before you posted that?

Again, you made the comment that "nobody takes me seriously". I've been here for five years and have garnered close to 12,000 ratings, half of which have been 'Thanks". You've been here for 3 years, have garnered less than 3000 ratings, and less than a thousand thanks.

Maybe people don't take you seriously.

If you have no idea what's in them, why are you so certain there's nothing sensitive that she should have better protected? You know, stuff that is so sensitive that it can't be released in any form? You can't have it both ways. Also, what I'm accusing her of doing is easily proven. If you are Secretary of State and you funnel ALL your official correspondence through a poorly secured private server to the exclusion of all official channels and leave the most sensitive of sensitive information on it, you're being remarkably careless. Now, what were you ranting on about again?

Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing, and you didn't care then.

Irrelevant. He led the way to the GOP taking the House for the first time in 40 some years. Without him setting the tone and the direction, Congress would not have been able to hold Bubba's feet to the fire as much as they did.

Actually, Gingrich greatest accomplishment was getting Clinton a second term. Because he was such an unlikable troll that people forgot how much they disliked Clinton and started disliking him more.

If I were you, I wouldn't be touting my ratings. Just sayin'.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

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No. It's not classified until it is. If the sole reason to classify it is so it cannot be made public, then the classification has no need in the email server.

Let's say the State Dept had ongoing operations in a particular region and the official position of the US to it's foreign partners is one thing and what is discussed through email within State is another. Maybe even enough to jeopardize relations if it were public. In that case, routine communications could be classified for the sole purpose of blocking their release. It in no way means they were classified at all in the server or that anyone did anything wrong.

This is the more likely scenario as State has said repeatedly that none of these were classified at the time.

So now explain why the FBI has been INVESTIGATING!!!!! Hillary and her fucking private server/emails for months?
Nothing better to do? Bored? Too many agents with nothing to do? Too much money in the budget?
Go ahead and explain.
This ought to be fucking hilarious!

What have they said the nature of the investigation is?
It's called due diligence. Mostly to satisfy the raging dupes I suspect.

I see now. The FBI conducts extensive INVESTIGATIONS into possible criminal behavior just to satisfy the "dupes"?
That would be news to anyone employed by the FBI.
You really ought to wise up pal.
With each post you are looking more and more like a fool.

We'll see who "wised up" soon enough.
Can't wait for those tearful conspiracy rants from the dupes when she's cleared.

I'll make you a bet.
If the FBI recommends even one charge be brought against Hillary for any reason relating to her emails you leave this forum forever. No coming back as another forum member ever. You will be finished here.
If the FBI's investigation decides no charges should be recommended to the AG for any reason against Hillary I will leave this forum for ever. No coming back ever.
WELL?

I don't bet but no doubt quite a few of your types will disappear when it doesn't go your way.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

The best hacks have proof they actually happened.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

ICYMI:

I've posted this numerous times:

Clinton emails reveal murky world of "top secret" documents | TheHill
<snip>
"Information in a message can be declared classified years after it was initially sent. And the State Department and Intelligence Community can also look at the same text and come to opposite conclusions over whether it contains secret information.

And that’s where the discrepancies are arising between the Office of the Inspector General (IG) of Intelligence Community, Clinton’s campaign and the State Department

<snip>

"The watchdog said it found a number of Clinton’s emails that currently contained “classified intelligence community information.” But the State Department has said it did not consider that language classified at the time those emails were sent.

Both sides can be correct, said several former officials.

Not only is each side entitled to different standards of classification, but information can become classified almost retroactively, as situations and guidelines change over the years.

An IG could decide “it is a completely different scenario,” and that certain details must now be protected, said Michael Brown, a former DHS director of cybersecurity coordination and current vice president at security firm RSA.

And culturally, intelligence agencies tend to lean toward classification more than an agency like State would, several former employees on both sides agreed."

Hillary had information on her server that was so sensitive that it could not be released in any form. That's not a gray area. Sorry, but to claim this is a defense is to, as I said before, admit that she is grossly incompetent to hold office.

Those 22 emails were upgraded to TS upon review for release. That means it was upgraded because it could not be released. It doesn't mean it would be classified also on the server but that as of the review it could not be made public. None of these emails were ever meant to be public. It could be as simple as not wanting discussions and processes of the State Dept made public to the world. They may contain information that could compromise ongoing negotiations or other operations. It never had to be classified on the server for that to be the case.

That makes no sense. If information is classified, it doesn't matter where it is. IOW, it's either classified or not. Leaving it out where it can be easily accessed is the issue.

No. It's not classified until it is. If the sole reason to classify it is so it cannot be made public, then the classification has no need in the email server.

Let's say the State Dept had ongoing operations in a particular region and the official position of the US to it's foreign partners is one thing and what is discussed through email within State is another. Maybe even enough to jeopardize relations if it were public. In that case, routine communications could be classified for the sole purpose of blocking their release. It in no way means they were classified at all in the server or that anyone did anything wrong.

This is the more likely scenario as State has said repeatedly that none of these were classified at the time.

They would not be classified at that high a level if that were the case. There were emails on her server with information that is so sensitive that it cannot be released in any form. The reason they were not classified at the time is Hillary did not classify them, though she is ultimately responsible for them.

You have no idea what level of classification is required to prevent public release.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Those 22 emails were upgraded to TS upon review for release. That means it was upgraded because it could not be released. It doesn't mean it would be classified also on the server but that as of the review it could not be made public. None of these emails were ever meant to be public. It could be as simple as not wanting discussions and processes of the State Dept made public to the world. They may contain information that could compromise ongoing negotiations or other operations. It never had to be classified on the server for that to be the case.

That's some fancy footwork.
Nothing changes the fact she had a secret illegal private server installed in her bathroom. God knows how many countries hacked her server. Russia and Israel for sure.
She attempted to destroy government emails. She was caught red handed.
Her little fucking rat Blumenthal was the gateway to her email server.
Fucking poetic justice.
Hillary has been in close proximity to sensitive government documents for decades.
And she was too fucking dumb/careless, as Obama calls her, to at least clue in that some of the emails coming to her server were very sensitive and potentially harmful to US interests if any hacker got ahold of them?
That is mind numbing stupid or she is so fucking nihilistic she believed she was too 'smart' to ever be caught......or both.
The bitch has had her little chat with Comey now. Two-three weeks before the FBI recommends felony charges be brought. It's irrelevant what Lynch does then.
Hillary will waddle off to her multimillion dollar mansion and drink herself to death in Huma's arms.

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I don't want either in the White House without a visitor's pass. Why would you?

So you're admitting this is designed to hurt Clinton's chances at the WH rather than a serious concern over security?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

'Guccifer' has 2 gigabytes sitting on a fucking cloud.
Wait and watch.

I thought he said he only captured a few screen shots?

 

[hadit]

You seem very certain that you know what's in them. Like I said, I don't recall seeing you in any of the meetings. There was that one guy that sat in the back and picked his nose the whole time. Was that you?

You weren't at the meetings either. the thing is, after hearing you cry wolf for the last 25 years, I'm rather dubious there is a wolf.

Skating on legal terms does not convey moral legitimacy. But you knew that.

1. Because you post more frequently than I do?
2. Because those who give you ratings are more easily amused than those who give them to me?
3. Because you've been around here longer than I have?

Are you sure you didn't think about any of those before you posted that?

Again, you made the comment that "nobody takes me seriously". I've been here for five years and have garnered close to 12,000 ratings, half of which have been 'Thanks". You've been here for 3 years, have garnered less than 3000 ratings, and less than a thousand thanks.

Maybe people don't take you seriously.

They don't have to. In fact, most won't, but that's their problem.

If you have no idea what's in them, why are you so certain there's nothing sensitive that she should have better protected? You know, stuff that is so sensitive that it can't be released in any form? You can't have it both ways. Also, what I'm accusing her of doing is easily proven. If you are Secretary of State and you funnel ALL your official correspondence through a poorly secured private server to the exclusion of all official channels and leave the most sensitive of sensitive information on it, you're being remarkably careless. Now, what were you ranting on about again?

Colin Powell and Condi Rice did the same thing, and you didn't care then.

The same thing? How many top secret emails did either of them leave on a weakly secured server for years after being in office? How much top secret information did they fail to mark as such and fail to handle appropriately? If you can't answer that, you can't claim they did the same thing. Now, if they really DID do all that, they need to be held accountable, just as Hillary does. Interesting attempt to shut down the argument by saying, "But, but, somebody else did it too, and I'm guessing that you support them, so I'm going to try to pin you into a corner where you'll have to back off of Hillary".

Irrelevant. He led the way to the GOP taking the House for the first time in 40 some years. Without him setting the tone and the direction, Congress would not have been able to hold Bubba's feet to the fire as much as they did.

Actually, Gingrich greatest accomplishment was getting Clinton a second term. Because he was such an unlikable troll that people forgot how much they disliked Clinton and started disliking him more.

Irrelevant. Without his leadership, the GOP wouldn't have taken the House back and wouldn't have been able to hold Bubba's feet to the fire and force a balanced budget.

 

[hadit]

That's some fancy footwork.
Nothing changes the fact she had a secret illegal private server installed in her bathroom. God knows how many countries hacked her server. Russia and Israel for sure.
She attempted to destroy government emails. She was caught red handed.
Her little fucking rat Blumenthal was the gateway to her email server.
Fucking poetic justice.
Hillary has been in close proximity to sensitive government documents for decades.
And she was too fucking dumb/careless, as Obama calls her, to at least clue in that some of the emails coming to her server were very sensitive and potentially harmful to US interests if any hacker got ahold of them?
That is mind numbing stupid or she is so fucking nihilistic she believed she was too 'smart' to ever be caught......or both.
The bitch has had her little chat with Comey now. Two-three weeks before the FBI recommends felony charges be brought. It's irrelevant what Lynch does then.
Hillary will waddle off to her multimillion dollar mansion and drink herself to death in Huma's arms.

The server was neither secret nor illegal nor proven to have been hacked.

Your narrative is nothing more than RW media bullshit.

It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I don't want either in the White House without a visitor's pass. Why would you?

So you're admitting this is designed to hurt Clinton's chances at the WH rather than a serious concern over security?

Nope. I'm saying that's the best outcome I see happening. I don't for a moment believe she will ever be indicted, because she's too well connected and knows where too many skeletons are buried. Now, why would you want a president who is careless with national security? You didn't answer that question.

 

[hadit]

It would not surprise me in the least were Hillary to be ranting at Putin about how she wanted him to pull back in one of the European states and he would slide a thumb drive across the table and tell her to take a look at it before she demanded anything else.

I think you read too many cheap spy novels.

Now I read stupid posts on the internet, and laugh.

 

[dannyboys]

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

'Guccifer' has 2 gigabytes sitting on a fucking cloud.
Wait and watch.

I thought he said he only captured a few screen shots?

Suuuuure Guccifier didn't hack Hillary's private unsecured server.
"Guccifer later hacked Colin Powell's website and accessed years' worth of his correspondence from another AOL account. The correspondence included personal financial information as well as e-mails to George Tenet, Richard Armitage, and John Negroponte.[6]

The hacker also targeted U.S. Senator Lisa Murkowski, a senior UN Official, members of the Rockefeller family, former FBI and Secret Service agents,[7] as well as the brother of Barbara Bush, CBS sportscaster Jim Nantz, and former Miss Maine Patricia Legere.[8]

On March 20, 2013, USA Today reported that Guccifer had successfully hacked the e-mail account of former aide to president Bill Clinton, Sidney Blumenthal.[9] He distributed private memos sent to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton involving recent events in Libya, including the September 11, 2012 Benghazi attack.[10] Before distributing the memos, he copied and pasted the text into his own new documents, then reformatted them with pink backgrounds and Comic Sans font.[10] The hacker's IP address was traced to Russia, however there was no certainty as to whether this was his actual location or whether he had used a proxy to hide his true location.

In early May 2013, Guccifer hacked into online accounts owned by two members of the Council on Foreign Relations, as well as accounts owned by Adam Posen and his wife and another owned by a former Federal Reserve Board official.[11]"
Suuuuure Putin doesn't have 20K of Hillary's emails.
Suuuuure!
Guccifier's IP address has been traced to RUSSIA!
You really need to pull your tongue out of Hillary's asshole pal!
The bitch is going down........FINALLY!

 

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It doesn't have to be any of those things to be a foolish thing to do. A parent who allows a toddler to play unsupervised beside a busy street is negligent whether the child is harmed or not.

Foolish is one thing. Criminal is an entirely different thing.

I see. So someone running o be the President of the United States who did something "foolish" and "careless" with US government documents in your view is qualified to be the next President?
Why don't you LIBs drag a fucking crack head off the street to be President. I'm sure they won't be anymore "foolish" or "careless" than Hillary.
Wait a minute! You all already did that with Obama.
That POS goes through 100 grams a day!

Foolish or careless in political terms, yes. Obviously in hindsight it was dumb.There is no evidence that her server was compromised or otherwise unsecured.

Not just in political terms, in national security terms. And as for being hacked, the best hacks are the ones that don't trip any alarms.

The best hacks have proof they actually happened.

Nope. Leaving no trace is much more effective and requires more skill. That way you can use the information gathered to its greatest effect. Why would you steal someone's banking information, for example, and not use it until after you tell the person you've stolen it?